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The Living Force
I recently went back and finished reading what I had missed in the Eric Pepin thread. By the time I finished, something was bothering me that I felt I needed to work out. I'm posting it here to keep from hijacking that thread.
I am familiar with the basic requirements and principles of the Work. I feel like, in general, I know the answer to how I would respond to STS attack(s), from an understanding that only the ego/false personality is concerned about its' personal security. Nothing can happen to the "TRUE I". But what if you are the frontrunner or leader in a race to save humanity or at least anyone who cares to join you, and you find that it is taking all you have got just to stay focused when the forces of STS have launched an unrelenting attack against you and everything you stand for? Can you initiate any action to bring it to and end if only temporarily...that is, without violating free will and/or acting from self-interest?
Can you take pre-emptive action to protect yourself while focused on the group instead of yourself? Could you draw a line and say enough is enough without violating any principles of the Work?
In the Eric Pepin Discussion thread, SeekingtheTruth asks:
[quote author=SeekingtheTruth]
Is not attacking another via suing only a subtle means of manipulative control? I realize SOTT has nothing but the best interest of the world at heart, but I can’t seem to find a plausible motive to take action that doesn’t have a hint of revenge at its core. Perhaps someone here has found one that I can not currently see?
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I got to thinking about this in terms of Laura's discussion in the referenced thread and more generally in terms of an individual (in the Work) being under unceasing attack and yet, still needing to do something in order to keep themselves and a group on track.
When exactly is enough enough? Can there be such a point, considering the nature of this Work? I understand that STS and STO forces will always interact, and I'm not referring to any assumption that any attacks can be permanently defeated, but rather a point in time when one simply chooses to turn towards one's attacker and pull the rug out from under them in order to recover lost energy.
Of course, I'm assuming that the legal position is clear-cut and well grounded.
The way I currently see it, if this question has an answer, it's probably going to take a huge expansion of awareness to 'see'. I'm not capable of that, but I did want to offer some thoughts as an opportunity to adjust my reading instrument if possible.
If I take my current understanding of the Work and of individuals working towards STO candidate status and add my limited understanding of the STO and STS energy dynamics beyond 3rd density, I seem to see where it is possible for a 3D individual to 'initiate' action designed to plug up holes where energy is leaking out due to ongoing STS attack(s). The key seems to be broadening ones view and thinking in terms of energy.
First, with regard to the energy dynamic, I understand that energy is energy. Whether it is measured as money in a financial context; time, attention and health in an individual's life context or however, energy is necessary to have and preserve, and is worth protecting.
Secondly, still thinking in terms of energy, I understand that the energy available to a person and controllable by the person in the Work is related to many things: awareness, knowledge, health, state of BEing, ability to DO - which also seems to be related to one's "response-ability".
Obviously, some of us have more awareness, knowledge and energy than the others. A few of us have an incredible range of knowledge, energy, awareness (ability to discern - to see), and therefore increased ability to DO. These individuals would naturally have increased response-ability as well, since it all ties together, I think.
Furthermore, as a group dynamic, thinking of ourselves as grouped together by choice and representing the STO energy dynamic, a few can 'see' much more than the others. Those with the most knowledge and awareness can see what the rest of us "can see" as well as what we "cannot see" (due to the fact that we don't have as full an awareness). In the capacity of service, therefore, they lead the way and naturally exercise more DO ability and response-ability including threat assessments to self and group. The more advanced individuals, then, would be the only ones 'able' to initiate any 'response' to attacks in a manner consistent with the principles of the Work due to the necessity for impartiality or indifference and a non-expectant kind of mental state.
It seems that those among us who are capable of objective 'response-ability' naturally take steps to protect energy from 'leaking away' towards a black hole of nothingness, because the conservation of energy is so important to the Work we have to do.
STS forces and individuals wishing to acquire energy for themselves, would naturally 'go' for the one(s) among us with the most energy under our control, for two reasons: the possibility of a bigger payoff of energy as well as a bigger crippling effect on the group as a whole. It seems reasonable then, that the self-chosen responsibility of an individual under attack rises in proportion to the nature of the particular threat, by which I mean the consequences to the group are greater than the consequences to an individuals' 'personal security' and therefore the response must be effective and satisfactory on that level, whether it be a lawsuit or a response of 'ignoring'.
If we were currently living and perceiving above the 3rd density level and STS forces continually attacked without letup I think we would simply implement a plan designed to rebalance and recapture our energy levels - energy that was already ours, but which we lost in the interaction of the attack(s).
Now, here in 3rd density awareness, we can see that energy takes many forms. To continue in the Work as long as we can while here, we all need to increase, maintain and protect our energy in any and every way objectively possible, with respecting free will being the 'prime directive' so-to-speak.
Our money, health, attention and everything else we have is our energy and it is steadily being eroded everywhere possible - from causes that span from the economic meltdown to psychopathic control of the quality of our food and water supply. Attacks from psychopathic 3D entities constantly seek to drain time, attention, life and money from individuals who are guilty of nothing more than trying to add life-enhancing values to the human population - in most cases free - through the forum and SOTT. It hurts to contemplate the possibility of losing a vast source of life giving knowledge.
Would the individual(s) in this group who can see from a wide view, control a large amount of energy and have the ability to respond as needed from a self-imposed seat of responsibility...would a person like that 'initiate' action 'against' an agent of STS forces to temporarily recover needed energy? Energy that was once available to the person? Especially if that energy is being freely shared with the group and needed?
Well, I have an answer in mind that seems appropriate to my level of current knowledge, but realistically speaking, it seems that the answer can really only come from the measuring act as done by the individual in question on the basis of what is being 'seen' now and in the near-future according to the active lines of force. Since I am not at that level of awareness, it is certainly not for me to judge as it would most certainly be presumptuous.
As I struggled to resolve this issue for myself, I thought that if there is definite guidance within the work, it would most like be represented here:
[Quote author=Cassiopaea Glossary]
Impartiality
In the 4th Way discipline, the ideal state of perception is described as 'Impartiality'. Often mistaken for apathy or indifference, the actual connotation implies neutrality to all externalities. Knowledge of self is said to lead to a stable mind frame where the context of every situation, scenario, event, interaction, is acknowledged and ones actions follow appropriately as to conform to one's aims and the requirements of the situation.
One who embodies or strives to acquire this state of awareness is said to be stoic, unperturbed by the whims of emotions and the changes of fortune inseparable of the human condition.
What is ultimately sought is the ability to objectively experience the Universe through all centers, using thought, emotion and senses as a tool. This means that one is not swept away by automatically triggered reactions, be they physical, emotional or cognitive but that one uses all these capabilities for their "intended purpose," approaching a multifaceted and objective apprehension of the situation.
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Considering the qualities of patience, forebearance and timing, the individual under attack is simply gathering information, biding one's time, taking the 'beating'...and then when a solid, provable case exists and the energy investment is calculated to bring a return that is worth the investment, then the actions would be set in motion by choice.
In conclusion, though I know I haven't proven anything, it appears strongly to me that such actions can be done from a position of impartiality (assuming a certain level of advancement in the Work) as if it were no more significant than rearranging items on one's desk to avoid the inefficiency of "looking for stuff".
From the 3rd density perception, it may appear to be suing the pants off a psychopath, but from a higher awareness, it may simply be sending a wave of energy to plug up energy drain holes in an area of the universe containing a black-hole connection to the fabric of life.
I hope I haven't wasted the reader's time with word salad or too much rambling. I left this post largely unedited for ease of viewing my thinking process, as skewed as it may be.
If someone has something they would like to add, or point out to me to help me see anything I'm not seeing, I'd appreciate it.
I am familiar with the basic requirements and principles of the Work. I feel like, in general, I know the answer to how I would respond to STS attack(s), from an understanding that only the ego/false personality is concerned about its' personal security. Nothing can happen to the "TRUE I". But what if you are the frontrunner or leader in a race to save humanity or at least anyone who cares to join you, and you find that it is taking all you have got just to stay focused when the forces of STS have launched an unrelenting attack against you and everything you stand for? Can you initiate any action to bring it to and end if only temporarily...that is, without violating free will and/or acting from self-interest?
Can you take pre-emptive action to protect yourself while focused on the group instead of yourself? Could you draw a line and say enough is enough without violating any principles of the Work?
In the Eric Pepin Discussion thread, SeekingtheTruth asks:
[quote author=SeekingtheTruth]
Is not attacking another via suing only a subtle means of manipulative control? I realize SOTT has nothing but the best interest of the world at heart, but I can’t seem to find a plausible motive to take action that doesn’t have a hint of revenge at its core. Perhaps someone here has found one that I can not currently see?
[/quote]
I got to thinking about this in terms of Laura's discussion in the referenced thread and more generally in terms of an individual (in the Work) being under unceasing attack and yet, still needing to do something in order to keep themselves and a group on track.
When exactly is enough enough? Can there be such a point, considering the nature of this Work? I understand that STS and STO forces will always interact, and I'm not referring to any assumption that any attacks can be permanently defeated, but rather a point in time when one simply chooses to turn towards one's attacker and pull the rug out from under them in order to recover lost energy.
Of course, I'm assuming that the legal position is clear-cut and well grounded.
The way I currently see it, if this question has an answer, it's probably going to take a huge expansion of awareness to 'see'. I'm not capable of that, but I did want to offer some thoughts as an opportunity to adjust my reading instrument if possible.
If I take my current understanding of the Work and of individuals working towards STO candidate status and add my limited understanding of the STO and STS energy dynamics beyond 3rd density, I seem to see where it is possible for a 3D individual to 'initiate' action designed to plug up holes where energy is leaking out due to ongoing STS attack(s). The key seems to be broadening ones view and thinking in terms of energy.
First, with regard to the energy dynamic, I understand that energy is energy. Whether it is measured as money in a financial context; time, attention and health in an individual's life context or however, energy is necessary to have and preserve, and is worth protecting.
Secondly, still thinking in terms of energy, I understand that the energy available to a person and controllable by the person in the Work is related to many things: awareness, knowledge, health, state of BEing, ability to DO - which also seems to be related to one's "response-ability".
Obviously, some of us have more awareness, knowledge and energy than the others. A few of us have an incredible range of knowledge, energy, awareness (ability to discern - to see), and therefore increased ability to DO. These individuals would naturally have increased response-ability as well, since it all ties together, I think.
Furthermore, as a group dynamic, thinking of ourselves as grouped together by choice and representing the STO energy dynamic, a few can 'see' much more than the others. Those with the most knowledge and awareness can see what the rest of us "can see" as well as what we "cannot see" (due to the fact that we don't have as full an awareness). In the capacity of service, therefore, they lead the way and naturally exercise more DO ability and response-ability including threat assessments to self and group. The more advanced individuals, then, would be the only ones 'able' to initiate any 'response' to attacks in a manner consistent with the principles of the Work due to the necessity for impartiality or indifference and a non-expectant kind of mental state.
It seems that those among us who are capable of objective 'response-ability' naturally take steps to protect energy from 'leaking away' towards a black hole of nothingness, because the conservation of energy is so important to the Work we have to do.
STS forces and individuals wishing to acquire energy for themselves, would naturally 'go' for the one(s) among us with the most energy under our control, for two reasons: the possibility of a bigger payoff of energy as well as a bigger crippling effect on the group as a whole. It seems reasonable then, that the self-chosen responsibility of an individual under attack rises in proportion to the nature of the particular threat, by which I mean the consequences to the group are greater than the consequences to an individuals' 'personal security' and therefore the response must be effective and satisfactory on that level, whether it be a lawsuit or a response of 'ignoring'.
If we were currently living and perceiving above the 3rd density level and STS forces continually attacked without letup I think we would simply implement a plan designed to rebalance and recapture our energy levels - energy that was already ours, but which we lost in the interaction of the attack(s).
Now, here in 3rd density awareness, we can see that energy takes many forms. To continue in the Work as long as we can while here, we all need to increase, maintain and protect our energy in any and every way objectively possible, with respecting free will being the 'prime directive' so-to-speak.
Our money, health, attention and everything else we have is our energy and it is steadily being eroded everywhere possible - from causes that span from the economic meltdown to psychopathic control of the quality of our food and water supply. Attacks from psychopathic 3D entities constantly seek to drain time, attention, life and money from individuals who are guilty of nothing more than trying to add life-enhancing values to the human population - in most cases free - through the forum and SOTT. It hurts to contemplate the possibility of losing a vast source of life giving knowledge.
Would the individual(s) in this group who can see from a wide view, control a large amount of energy and have the ability to respond as needed from a self-imposed seat of responsibility...would a person like that 'initiate' action 'against' an agent of STS forces to temporarily recover needed energy? Energy that was once available to the person? Especially if that energy is being freely shared with the group and needed?
Well, I have an answer in mind that seems appropriate to my level of current knowledge, but realistically speaking, it seems that the answer can really only come from the measuring act as done by the individual in question on the basis of what is being 'seen' now and in the near-future according to the active lines of force. Since I am not at that level of awareness, it is certainly not for me to judge as it would most certainly be presumptuous.
As I struggled to resolve this issue for myself, I thought that if there is definite guidance within the work, it would most like be represented here:
[Quote author=Cassiopaea Glossary]
Impartiality
In the 4th Way discipline, the ideal state of perception is described as 'Impartiality'. Often mistaken for apathy or indifference, the actual connotation implies neutrality to all externalities. Knowledge of self is said to lead to a stable mind frame where the context of every situation, scenario, event, interaction, is acknowledged and ones actions follow appropriately as to conform to one's aims and the requirements of the situation.
One who embodies or strives to acquire this state of awareness is said to be stoic, unperturbed by the whims of emotions and the changes of fortune inseparable of the human condition.
What is ultimately sought is the ability to objectively experience the Universe through all centers, using thought, emotion and senses as a tool. This means that one is not swept away by automatically triggered reactions, be they physical, emotional or cognitive but that one uses all these capabilities for their "intended purpose," approaching a multifaceted and objective apprehension of the situation.
[/b]
[/quote]
Considering the qualities of patience, forebearance and timing, the individual under attack is simply gathering information, biding one's time, taking the 'beating'...and then when a solid, provable case exists and the energy investment is calculated to bring a return that is worth the investment, then the actions would be set in motion by choice.
In conclusion, though I know I haven't proven anything, it appears strongly to me that such actions can be done from a position of impartiality (assuming a certain level of advancement in the Work) as if it were no more significant than rearranging items on one's desk to avoid the inefficiency of "looking for stuff".
From the 3rd density perception, it may appear to be suing the pants off a psychopath, but from a higher awareness, it may simply be sending a wave of energy to plug up energy drain holes in an area of the universe containing a black-hole connection to the fabric of life.
I hope I haven't wasted the reader's time with word salad or too much rambling. I left this post largely unedited for ease of viewing my thinking process, as skewed as it may be.
If someone has something they would like to add, or point out to me to help me see anything I'm not seeing, I'd appreciate it.
