Why do babies suffer?

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redwraith33

The Force is Strong With This One
Not sure where I should post this, but I'll try here. Since my wife and I had our first child in April, 2007, it seems I have come across a large amount of news articles detailing violence and abuse towards children. Not just children, but infants for Christ's sake! Now I realize that the birth of my daughter has raised my awareness and sensitivity towards such matters, but my god... the things people do to children bring tears to my eyes on a daily basis, so much so that I basically have to shun the daily news, even on SOTT (especially, the U.S. and U.K. sections.) This brings up my question in the context of what the C's have said about our reality. This may have been brought up somewhere else (if it has, please direct me), but what is the purpose of a 5 week old suffering abuse? Why does a 2 1/2 year old have to be beaten to death to learn a lesson? Why is an 18 month old thrown down the stairs? Are they pawns in the lessons of the persons doing the abuse, or they actually "learning" something by being abused? Or are they simply unlucky in being born to psychopathic parents? In a world where "all there is is lessons", it's difficult to conceive of the lessons being learned by such young 3rd density beings.
 
Hi Redwraith33,

The C's said this recently which may be of help:

A: Too much credibility is given to the idea of "karma". Anybody can be "taken out" if their awareness is not sufficient to the situation. But as is the case, it follows the general rules of 3D reality. 4D STS can maneuver through agents mainly, environment, and that sort of thing.
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Also, I saw that although you've been a member a while, you haven't posted much. Would you give an introduction in the newbies forum?
 
Hi redwraith33,
You've been a member since 06' and yet I am wondering if you've read any of the recommended material. :huh: In any case, could you have a look through the Tips and advice for Newbies. Hope to see you posting more often. :)
 
I'm not one that engages too much in internet discourse, but every once in while something builds up a head of steam in me that needs to be released and then I'll post something. I think I already know the answer to my question having just finished Book 7 of The Wave, but still, It's hard to wrap my head around this stuff sometimes. I guess the act of writing out my post was somewhat therapeutic for me, mostly fueled by emotion, having just read the headline of another abuse case. Thanks for the response...
Chris
 
edit: Public enemy number one, why do so many minds maim and torture, wretched souls it's just sickening
 
Hi Le Rhino, I agree it is hard to understand. There doesn't seem to be much sense about it other than the fact that we live in a pathological world where senseless things happen on an unimaginable scale. And that's the thing - pathology is senseless. If we try to make sense of it though ideas of karma or whatever, we're probably missing the bigger picture of pathology. If we can get a good understanding of how pathology affects us and see when it enters our environment, we're in a better position to change our environment and protect ourselves and any under our care.
 
I have to agree that the senseless beating, raping and killing of small children and babies is horrendous! It is sickening and disheartening.

So is any kind of abuse to animals, women, men and children. And it is happening everywhere. Why? Mostly because of the psychopathy run wild in this world. Those with psychopathic minds are like a disease that is then spread among those who are on the cusp of be pathological themselves, which is then spread to those who have experienced it and are twisted, who then spread it to others.....

Maybe these atrocities will someday wake up those who are still free of the disease and help them to really see what is at the cause of this whole sordid mess we have on this planet? I don't know, but even though I cry for those who are being abused, tortured and killed - both 3D and 2d beings, I keep faith in the Universe that there is a reason for this and everything is going according to plan, and that this is needed to create some balance in this unbalanced part of the Universe.

I can give you no more solace than that. I know that it's not much, and it doesn't stop anything, but there it is.

And, redwraithe33, it's nice to hear from you, even on such a dire topic. It would maybe do you a lot of good if you could contribute more and give back something for what you are receiving from this forum. Maybe starting with a little bit of balance here will help in restoring the balance to this horrible mess we have on this planet. ;) Remember the butterfly wings?
 
Los said:
Hi Le Rhino, I agree it is hard to understand. There doesn't seem to be much sense about it other than the fact that we live in a pathological world where senseless things happen on an unimaginable scale. And that's the thing - pathology is senseless. If we try to make sense of it though ideas of karma or whatever, we're probably missing the bigger picture of pathology. If we can get a good understanding of how pathology affects us and see when it enters our environment, we're in a better position to change our environment and protect ourselves and any under our care.
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Thanks Los that's a really good point, I don't think we'll be able to figure something like this out with ideas like karma, lessons etc none of them do a good job of explaining. I'm reading Lobaczewski (well more like studying, I have to take constant notes) and how he speaks of Evil in 'macrosocial terms', It's such a useful framework to come from.
 
Nienna Eluch said:
Maybe these atrocities will someday wake up those who are still free of the disease and help them to really see what is at the cause of this whole sordid mess we have on this planet? I don't know, but even though I cry for those who are being abused, tortured and killed - both 3D and 2d beings, I keep faith in the Universe that there is a reason for this and everything is going according to plan, and that this is needed to create some balance in this unbalanced part of the Universe.
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Thank you for that... I remember something the C's said somewhere that the STS forces are so embedded in their wishful thinking that they are actually sowing the seeds of their own destruction. If that's the only solace available then I'll take it.
 
This reminds me of the C's talking about organic portals:

A: Now, do not start labeling without due consideration. Remember that very often the individual who displays contradictory behavior may be a souled being in struggle.
Q: (L) I would say that the chief thing they are saying is that the really good ones - you could never tell except by long observation. The one key we discovered from studying psychopaths was that their actions do not match their words. But what if that is a symptom of just being weak and having no will? (A) How can I know if I have a soul?
A: Do you ever hurt for another?
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Perhaps adopting psychopathic behavior is easier when the burden is larger. The only problem is the burden only grows. I have known many individuals with psychopathic behavior, and behind most of these angry outer shells were broken souls. Unfortunately this is probably the worst part of sharing earth with OPs. Their behavior becomes an accepted part of society, and souled human beings don't even realize this behavior comes from lack of soul. Those who aren't true psychopaths that abuse others, were more than likely abused themselves. When I think of the horrible things going on in this world, I always try to remind myself that those with souls who commit these crimes suffer deeply inside. Its also nice to think that god is shining more brightly on those who suffer because of others. As a child, I suffered from neglect. My mother ruled her kids much like the STS forces rule the world. Though I still have trouble dealing with the fact that my mother was not capable of loving me, I know that she wasn't even able to love herself. Growing up with a psychopath really opened my eyes to what was going on in the world around me. I wouldn't be here today if it had happened differently.
 
Greetings Redwraith33;

As a father of two children I would not wish to lesson your feelings in any way, but a person could edit your subject line to read:

'Why do humans suffer?'

It is a timeless question to which there are many great responses to your statement in this thread and I am compelled to point out a few more ideas.

As has been stated many times; there is no limit to the psychopathy of our planet. This type of horror and others has been occurring thoughout history.
One of my opinions is that while this has been happening from the beginning of time, it may have not actually been reported as frequently as it is lately (now) + you are much more aware of it because the topic is much closer to you now as a parent.

As far as the mainstream media is concerned, they are manipulated to report stories that produce the maximum emotional response from us (fear) = maximum amount of etheric energy for our keepers. Sadly the 'C's have stated that a heightened state of terror for the victim results in the maximum amount of energy extraction and the press provides additional gruesome details in order to fan our flames, my case in point is the idea that reporting such violence which is directed towards babies and children, one of our archtypes of 'helplessness' in our world. The term 'Elderly People' can produce such a response also, but I don't think it works as effectively.
People die horribly every day and the common person is oblivious to this, but we pay a bit more attention when it's a child. In this way it is the 'emotion' that gets in the way of the overall picture that that all human beings suffers in such fashion.

Session 940730
A: But it is the soul that matters, not the body. The body dies not the soul.
Q: (L) Well, this whole thing just gives us the creeps.
A: You are energy. There is an energy that comes from the soul and body connection; later the body is used for parts.
Q: (L) What are they using our energy and bodies for?
A: To create a new race. Theirs is fading out.
Q: (L) Well, do they just take people and kill them and do what with them?
A: They slice them up.
Q: (L) Do they die?
A: Maximum matter and energy transfer occurs during this type of transition.
Q: (L) In other words, you are saying that a slow painful death gives them the most of what they want? This is totally sick.
A: You asked for truth. You say it is sick but it is merely the ultimate form of service to self.
(At this point A*** described reading a passage in a book which stated that Native Americans believed a slow torturous death of an enemy gave them more power.)

Since we have been manipulated since 'The fall' to have an attachment to this body form in the physical rather than a spiritual bond to the soul in the eternal, we humans (particularly in the united States) have a fear of death and our loved ones have a conditioned emotional attachment to us in the physical present. Monotheism has conditioned us that we have this life only and possible one in the 'afterlife'.

From a purely objective viewpoint, if one were to remove emotion and scripture from the subject, any karmic 'lessons' to be learned by a child through this type of event (I'm referring to the murder of a child) could only be described by us as a 'quick and dirty lesson'. Maybe this is an example of a soul that only needed a slight 'touch-up' (refresher course) in order to move on. In an out quick rather than a 'lifetime' of suffering.

A: Bodies may get munched; souls don't, however!
A: Subjective... you are not bodies, you are souls.


I'm of the opinion that as a 'souled' individual, we are unable to fully comprehend of the thought processes of an OP or psychopath engaging in this type of behavior. Our genetic and biological makeup will force us to shutout such horror as a survival mechanism. It's frightening to witness the ability to commit such atrocities can be extended to a group (programming or externally controlled?) I am reminded of this via a link that I was reading regarding the actions against Dresden by Britian/allies during WWII _http://www.rense.com/general19/flame.htm [link deactivated by moderator]. How many times through history has this type of genocide occurred?
 
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