Will the Wave happen for everyone at the same time?

aaronfransen

Jedi Master
I don't know why this question didn't occur to me before now, but is it possible that the Wave will be perceived by different folks at different times, even if it's within a set range? I ask this because time is an illusion (lunchtime doubly so according to Douglas Adams) according to the C's, and that makes sense to me. Which also means that it could be perceived by individuals according to their own reality.

No?
 
some say that wave will have 3 portals 2012,2017 and 2030
2012 will be fundamental psychological shift in conciousness -
2017 will be more of a cellular shift and 2030 will accentuate the social shift
all of them should propel zhe ascension process forward at great speed .
does this answers your question i dont know, :halo: hope i helped :halo:
 
zvonimir said:
some say that wave will have 3 portals 2012,2017 and 2030
2012 will be fundamental psychological shift in conciousness -
2017 will be more of a cellular shift and 2030 will accentuate the social shift
all of them should propel zhe ascension process forward at great speed .
does this answers your question i dont know, :halo: hope i helped :halo:
I cannot find any reference to these statements in transcripts. Who is 'some' ?
 
zvonimir,
Who said that?
What is "a fundamental psychological shift in conciousness"?
Do you really think an "ascention" proceeds passively with no conscious work?
Did you read the Wave series?
 
i read about it for those portals from "The founders" don t want to advertise author here. Those aren t my words it is a quote from last book that was publish i think september 2011.

yes i read the wave and i am reading it again cause i missed a lot the first time i see that now,nevertheless i am reading the materials from "the founders" also to keep an open mind an have a wider view of incoming days.I don t consider the "wave" or "founders" my gospel or religion just an instrument for my path to truth.
Didn t mean any harm by this post, if any was done i am sorry,next time will read only .
 
zvonimir said:
i read about it for those portals from "The founders" don t want to advertise author here. Those aren t my words it is a quote from last book that was publish i think september 2011.

yes i read the wave and i am reading it again cause i missed a lot the first time i see that now,nevertheless i am reading the materials from "the founders" also to keep an open mind an have a wider view of incoming days.I don t consider the "wave" or "founders" my gospel or religion just an instrument for my path to truth.
Didn t mean any harm by this post, if any was done i am sorry,next time will read only .

I think the reason why mkrnhr asked you this questions is because your last statement on this thread does not represent what the C's material and this forum is actually saying at all. did you really read all the 8 "Wave books" or just some transcripts ? If so you might want to consider that you misinterpreted a lot of what actually was said in those books.

another thing you might want to consider is that "The founders" material that you are refering to has nothing to do with this forum or the C's material. I looked at the website wich you mentioned in your introduction post in the forum and it looks like a disinfo side wich has nothing to do with this forum or the C's material.
;)
 
zvonimir said:
i read about it for those portals from "The founders" don t want to advertise author here. Those aren t my words it is a quote from last book that was publish i think september 2011.

yes i read the wave and i am reading it again cause i missed a lot the first time i see that now,nevertheless i am reading the materials from "the founders" also to keep an open mind an have a wider view of incoming days.I don t consider the "wave" or "founders" my gospel or religion just an instrument for my path to truth.
Didn t mean any harm by this post, if any was done i am sorry,next time will read only .

The replies you received were not due to people being offended by new ideas, we are always open to that. However all new ideas need to be very thoroughly examined. If you cannot answer all of mkrnhr's questions, then you have not thoroughly examined this material, which is what he was pointing out IMO.

Generally, if you find a source that leads you away from total objectivity and the hard struggle of self work, then it is disinformation.
 
Interesting question/thoughts. I do not know the answer, but I am sure that some here would be happy to help. Your Original Post may have, inadvertently, been sidetracked a bit, So I quoted it here, hoping that someone might help. Many good folks here & I am sure eventually someone here will help you try to find an answer.
:)

aaronfransen said:
I don't know why this question didn't occur to me before now, but is it possible that the Wave will be perceived by different folks at different times, even if it's within a set range? I ask this because time is an illusion (lunchtime doubly so according to Douglas Adams) according to the C's, and that makes sense to me. Which also means that it could be perceived by individuals according to their own reality.

No?
 
Hi aaronfransen,

This transcript may may be interest where the wave(s) is/are discussed towards the end.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,26051.msg310577.html#msg310577
:cool2: :cool2: :cool2:

'Tis fun to scour the forum information with the search function. :)


aaronfransen said:
I don't know why this question didn't occur to me before now, but is it possible that the Wave will be perceived by different folks at different times, even if it's within a set range? I ask this because time is an illusion (lunchtime doubly so according to Douglas Adams) according to the C's, and that makes sense to me. Which also means that it could be perceived by individuals according to their own reality.

No?
 
Al Today said:
'Tis fun to scour the forum information with the search function. :)

Al Today,

Could you please tell me what "keywords you used to reference the link that was referred?

I tried these words, W/out quotes: "Wave transcript different people time" in the Entire Forum, & only found one reference that was remotely close to the subject of this topic. & the link you provided was not included.
It would certainly help me in tryng to pick the right search terms in the future. Likely it may help others also.
Thnx if you can help with this.
:)

I am also looking a bit, since the topic stirred my interest a bit.. Not concern in any way by me regarding any "timing", but curiousity as I thought the OP asked a good question. It makes a bit of sense to me that wave approach may affect different folks as approach nears. To me, (a try at analogy) , Much like a coming storm along an ocean beach approaches, and how it affects the level of the water & tide/wave height, with different effects to a person standing in the water at chest level, versus a person standing at the highest level of the coming waves, & additionally someone standing on a dune. Each, if they stay in place wll feel effects as things progress. Many use Time as the measurement for that progression. It is interesting to me, how/what would be the "measure" of the progression & how different folks feel it, as it progressed. A "Wave" moving (regardless of whether Time is involved or not), as it moves, dependent on speed of the wave & the either stationary or moving objects ( such as Us)& those objects speed, in the waves path. If the wave is progressing faster than the objects it is overtaking, it seems that different points(people/areas) would be overtaken in progression, thus the OP question would be "yes", it would overtake at different rates...
:/
I feel it is hard for me to type what I am trying to say, as I think I may not be as coherent as I am trying to be here. I am afraid I may seem to be "rambling", but I am having a hard time saying what I am thinking. I feel bad for that. Not sure what else to do. I just hope that the ones who read this might understand, my, or what seems to me, to be "less than optimum" efforts.
:/
I tried, & I think that is what counts..
:)
 
A thought just occurred to me as I was posting the last post. I remember the effects said to be progressing in the area of N.M. ( other areas around the globe were mentioned also) & its' possible transition to 4th, before surrounding areas ( still to our perception, in 3rd), causing much confusion to folks traveling. Straight road versus curved road, & the different perceptions of folks doing the traveling, & the folks who are living there. So I would think that "Yes", is the answer to the OP without being able to say so with appropriate "backing/references" available to show here. ( once again , I will try the Search function & if I find the reference I will edit it here.) This example I mentioned is likely not necessarily the Wave effects, I am not sure, but it might shed a bit of light, perhaps?
:)

Edit: found some of what I was trying to reference, both from post #2 by Anart in this topic :
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,11423.0.html

Note: In the longer of the two transcript quotes, I placed what may be pertinent sections to the OP in Red.

Quote from: 960127
Q: (L) Previously you told us about the SouthWest region of the United States
becoming 4th density. Will the people who live there become 4th density beings? Or
will they be 3rd density beings in 3rd density?
A: Some of both bleedin and bleedout.


Quote from: 951104
A: OK, time for us to teach patience. We are going to illuminate you! Why do you
suppose there are roads around Dulce NM where people have become confused when
traveling on them? Because the 4th density vibrational frequency emanating from the
nearby base more and more frequently resonates on surface.
Q: (L) OK, continue.
A: Then going to 4th density: road seems straight as seen in 4th density, when curved in
3rd.
Q: (J) It seems straight when seen in 4th, but it's actually curved in 3rd? (SV) In other
words, accidents! (J) It changes configuration from 3rd to 4th! (T) When people drive
those roads out there, as the fourth density seeps out through, and is seeping out farther
and farther, they become confused because they're moving between 3rd and 4th. As
the road curves in 3rd, and the car, which is in 3rd, should be curving with the road, the
driver sees the road as straight, and drives off the road, because he's confused by what
he sees.
A: Exactly.
Q: (J) It's all about perception! (T) Now, we're back to perception of reality!
A: In 4th, you see full circle from any vantage point.
Q: (L) We talked about that before. (T) So the road looks straight, because you're
seeing it from all angles, therefore, instead of it being curved on one, you're seeing it
every way, so the road is now straight. But, it's not really straight in 3rd, and you drive
off the road. (L) OK, continue on with what you were saying...
A: The entire New Mexico region is on verge of moving to 4th density permanently!
Q: (L) OK...
A: Because of the bases.
Q: (L) So, in other words, the rumors of the bases being moved, being filtered down
from other densities, through some of the distorted channels, is in essence, somewhat
correct... (J) Because they need to have the base in third density! (LAURA ) Only,
they're not moving them to Paris, Washington or Buenos Aires, they're moving to 4th
density.
A: Close but the bases are already there, pity the host regions. Why do you think there
is so much activity seen there!
Q: (L) Does this mean that when that whole region goes to 4th density, that it's going to,
for all intents and purposes, disappear from 3rd?
A: No.
Q: (T) OK, answer your earlier question, then. Why is there so much UFO activity
there? Tell me.
A: Bleed through.
Q: (L) So they're flying around in 4th density... (T)...and they're showing up here in 3rd
because...
A: Wait 'til shift is complete.
Q: (L) Do you mean the shift of New Mexico? Or the total shift? (T) I think they're
making the sarcastic statement: "Wait till shift is complete... We ain't seen nuthin yet!!"
We're just beginning to.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Now, this opens up some questions. First question. You made the statement
"But the bases are in 4th density." What happens when the 3rd density base, which is
vibrating itself into 4th density, runs into the 4th density base that's already there?
A: Merge.
Q: (T) They become one base?
A: They already are.
Q: (T) What do you mean by "They will merge?"
A: To same density.

Q: (J) I've got a question... (T) OK, now, is this moving of the third density location a
side effect of the bases? Harmonic resonance, and all that, as in the beginning of the
Matrix? Are we talking about the fact that it's been there so long, that that section of
third density is now resonating itself to the fourth density frequencies, and that this is not
exactly what they wanted it to do, but it's a side-effect of the fact that they're there?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Did they know that it was going to happen?
A: The 4th density STS did, but not 3rd.
Q: (T) One of the little surprises they weren't told about before the deal was cut? (J) If I
may ask my question now: You've got these third density bases that are going to move
to fourth density. Are they going to need to re- establish another third density base to
continue their work? To replace the one that's gone?
A: Why? The whole "territory" will be in 4th then. Tremendous reality shock will occur
when it crosses the border.
Q: (L) How will we in third perceive it? (J) We won't! (L) Now, wait, don't make
assumptions here! How will we in third perceive it? Let's play make-believe here. What
are they going to say?
A: Tremendous reality shock when cross border.
Q: (L) Are you saying that this whole region will go into fourth density when the Realm
Border crossing occurs, or is it going to happen shortly?
A: Before!

Q: (L) OK, this is going to be a tremendous reality shock to us, in third density? (J) I
guess! (SV) Well, New Mexico's not going to be there any more! (L) Well, now, how
are we going to perceive it? That's what I want to know! Are we going to see a big hole
in our world? Are we going to see a vast, empty desert?
A: New Mexico will still be there, but suggest review driving skills, for but one example!
[JR's note: New Mexico's vehicle license plate does say "Land of Enchantment."]
Q: (T) New Mexico will still exist, but the perception, when you drive into it, is going to
change completely, because you've moved into a different density?
A: Cooking will be fun too!
Q: (T) Because it's fourth density. (L) Wait, now, stop a minute here... (T) This is not
something that can be covered up very easily... (L) Now, hold on, back up. What will
we perceive... I mean, what is it going to say on the news? Everybody in New Mexico
disappeared? (J) Or they all go nuts... (T) I would hazard to guess...
A: News blackout.
Q: (T) They're not going to say anything. Now, what is the government's response? I'm
sure they will do something like ... "An underground nuclear facility for old rods," and
they have to block the whole state off... (L) That's tangential. (J) They're going to have
to keep people out! (T) How will they explain it? They will not let anybody in! (L) But
they still have... What I'm getting at is... That's begging the question! (T) I have another
question... (L) The question is, what will... (T) It will look like New Mexico! (J) It will
be different every time... (L) But the question is, will there be people there? Will there
be buildings there? If you fly over it, if you could fly over it, would you see a landscape?
Would you see cities? (T) It will look like New Mexico... (L) They didn't say that!!!
A: This requires 1,000 answers!
Q: (L) In other words, there is an issue here! (T) Yes, there is, and there's another
issue. That's only one base. OK, we're talking bases...
A: Colossal issue.
Q: (L) My question is a colossal issue here. What's going on here? This is the whole
thing. (T) My question, I think, is important, too. There's more than one base. If one is
doing it... (L) Well, they said the whole territory... (T) Not New Mexico; there are
bases in South America, there's supposedly a base off the coast of Florida... (L) OK, is
this going to happen to all the bases? (T) There are bases all over the world...(L) But
New Mexico is where they're hearing all that "business." (T) They're hearing the "noise"
in a lot of places around the world. (L) OK, are there other bases and areas around the
world where this is going to happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is it going to happen simultaneously?
A: No.

Q: (L) It'll happen as it develops... (T) The same way it developed out there. (L) In
other words, they'll move their activities to the other locations, once one place... (T)
No...
A: No.
Q: (J) Yes, because I asked, and they said no! (T) The bases were not all established at
the same time. The base out there is becoming affected.... (L) The oldest...(T) We don't
know if this is the oldest, we don't know about other places in the world... (L) That's
true. (T) ...where nobody can go. We don't know what's going on in Russia, and in
China, in Africa, in the middle of the rain forests, what's happened there... But, as the
bases, as our perception of time goes by, each of these bases will experience the same
thing, in their due time. (L) This brings to mind a couple of questions we discussed a
couple of weeks ago, when my brother was here. After we had talked about the
underground bases, and the soldier effect, and the taking of the souls out, and so on and
so forth, and I don't know if we got into it effectively or not, but I don't think so. Is
there some connection between these bases and their activities and a concept that has
emerged in our culture, of Hell being underground?
A: No.
Q: (L) OK, is there some connection between these bases going into fourth density and
the idea of some of the ancient prophetic literature that the...
A: Bases are partially 4th density already, and always have been. It is the surroundings
that are in for a massive change.
Q: (T) OK, now, this brings up an interesting concept. Two interesting concepts. When
Roger Santilli was here, we talked about his compatriots messing around with this stuff
on a small scale. This is on a massive scale that's getting out of hand on purpose. (L)
And they mentioned that these things had been being done by whom, and blah, blah,
blah... (T) Yes, now, the question is, they told us that the Lizzies want to control us, not
in third, but in fourth density. They've also told us that this wave realm border is coming,
which is our human chance to move to fourth density on our own and escape, if we can
do it, as a group, the Lizzie's control. The Lizzies have brought fourth density to us
before the realm border gets here. Everybody who's in a fourth density area, like the
New Mexico people, like you were just asking, what happens to everybody, gets
transferred into fourth density, where they are controlled by STS, fourth density, in
physicality, right on up there, before the wave gets here, before they understand what's
really happening to them... (L) That's what I was trying to say earlier... (T) It wasn't
coming out well, but that's it, right? (L) The ancient prophecies, where they talk about
taking out the negative, and that this amount to the taking out of the tares, the weeds,
the chaff. (T) It's not only in this location, it's in many locations, so they're going to
grab... (L) Gathering them together ... (T) ...a whole bunch of humans by way of these
bases that they told the different governments a lie about the purpose of the bases. The
bases weren't for any of this other stuff that they told them. The bases were there
specifically to generate the resonance effect within the area. (J) And spread it... (T)
Yes, well, they knew it would grow, therefore they can grab everybody within the area.
In New Mexico, depending on how big an area, they're hearing it out to Taos and as far
southeast as Albuquerque. That's a big city. There's a lot of people there, in that area of
northern New Mexico. To the north of that, they can take out Las Vegas, which is
another large city. Plus the tourist areas throughout the National Parks. Now, the bases
have been in out of the way places. The information, or disinformation, is that, the bases
would be moved under large cities. Is the experiment that they have performed, and
they calculated out, to see if this works on a sparse area first? And then, to move to
large population areas, and do it again, and on a second level of experiment, accelerate
it? (L) OK, let's ask. Is that the idea, that they're trying this there, and then move to the
large cities for the same purpose? (J) Like trying it out in Boston...
A: No. Remember, you are moving to the density 4 anyway.
Q: (J) My question is, in the case of the New Mexico locality, is this a "contained"
event?
A: Regional "blip".
Q: (J) OK, so it is contained, it would not spread. (T) Well, it's not big enough to
spread. But it is bigger than what Santilli's buddies are messing with. (L) OK, is there
anything happening under the cities of Buenos Aires, Washington and Paris? Along
these lines?
A: There are things "happening" under all cities.
Q: (L) OK, I know you said "things", but I said along these lines.
A: Yes.
--------------------------------------------------

If my bringing the quotes here is taking up too much space. I would understand it being edited by moderator for brevity.
 
MnSportsman said:
[...]
Could you please tell me what "keywords you used to reference the link that was referred?
[...]

Hi MnSportsman,

Being discussed was the wave, or waves (plural). The plural word interested me, so I went to the forum home page, Esoterica, The Cassiopaean Experiment, and finally Child Boards: Cassiopaean Session Transcripts.

I used the word "WAVES" as the search parameter and then "shopped" around until I felt an appropriate or interesting transcript was found. Usually I keep the search parameter simple and then browse what has been hit... Nothing fancy. Funny that when I do "shop" around, little tid bits are found that haven't been noticed before...


edit: spelling again :P
MnSportsman, the main issue with my method is that time is used while "shopping" and sometimes I get diverted by one of those previous undiscovered tid bits found...
:nuts:
 
Thnx Al Today, for your explanation!
:D

& I , too, often get a bit "distracted", or "sidetracked" when searching...

Thnx again!
:)

& I am hoping to see if any other folks have a lil info to pass regarding this topic.
:)
 
As I have understood here, the Wave will "manifest" when proper frequency is reached (perhaps collective consciosuness for lack of vocabulary). The C's have talked about it as being part of a cycle (which is part of the Grand Cycle) and that it "comes" about every 300,000 years. Since the fall of mankind have happened about 309,000 ago, we should be closing in now.

Just looking how everything is evolving and going crazy on our planet, I feel that it will be relaitvely soon. Imbalance is growing strong against our very nature and this brings a lot of surrefing, pain and sadness. Nature has it's own way of balancing itself and that is soon to happen in my opinion.

One thing you should be carefull about is the Law of Freewill. When talking about such a change (shift in consciousness) it is absolutely impossible to my eyes to predict with precision when it'll happen as our future depends strictly on individual and collective freewill. Odds are that it may happen this year but reality is that we don't know precisely. That's why we have to watch, listen and contemplate the world in order to become aware of the signs of such an upcoming event.

I also think that the Orion STS group is also well aware and will most likely decide to make an ultimate move and attempt to dominate prior to it. Again, carefull observation of the world around us and knowledge accquirement is important to my eyes. Nothing but knowledge can, in my opinion really protect us from what's coming. I don't think escaping in the woods and stock pilling guns and greandes will be of any help. We will probably be dealing with something that is more powerfull that we can immagine. Our physical body will be, in my opinion, useless against these forces. Knowledge is the key.

My thoughts. Peace.
 
MnSportsman said:
A thought just occurred to me as I was posting the last post. I remember the effects said to be progressing in the area of N.M. ( other areas around the globe were mentioned also) & its' possible transition to 4th, before surrounding areas ( still to our perception, in 3rd), causing much confusion to folks traveling. Straight road versus curved road, & the different perceptions of folks doing the traveling, & the folks who are living there.

When I drove through Dulce recently, I noticed that it was the only area that had a thick fog. It was strange because the fog started about 5 or 10 miles before and ended a few miles after leaving the town. Don't know if it was just a coincidence, or something else.
 

Trending content

Back
Top Bottom