Young Psychopaths

[EGVG]

Hi everyone! I know just the basics about psychopathy, so me talking about this persons like they are psychopaths is just a hypothesis.

OK so, I have spoke about this friend in some others threads, she has a boyfriend that is 1 1/2 years younger than her, and he has friends that are 16 and 17.
Just recently they had some issues in their relationship, but they decided to stick together. He, had an ex-girlfriend that wanted to speak with both my friend and her boy, because she was involve in the issue that they just had recovered from. But the meeting never happend, and it was unnecessary, the ex was in no position to demand a meeting, she just has time to play with.

All I know is that my friend is with her boyfriend, and they are OK, but the ex, has a lot of girl friends that apparently have a beef with my friend. They call her and insult her, several times a day. They cyber stock her, they have treatten her and they have also looked for her in the university (HOW THEY GOT IN IS A MYSTERY) and they where accompanied by two males. By the things they say on the phone it is only obvious that they want trouble, they want to fight with my friend.

My friend has done nothing but ignore this crazy teens that are in high school, she was even considering going to the police, but this crazy girls have no limits, they could be potentially dangerous.

So, when she told me all of this I knew we where dealing with psychopaths, what kind they are, I dunno but what I can tell, is that they are doing this for fun, they don't know my friend, they don't have anything nice to tell her other that insults and it's just a bad situation, what can my friend do???? My advice was to go to the school of this girls and talk to the principle and explain the whole situation, but she does not want to start a war, this teens are totally insane.

Well, on the other hand I've discovered something very disturbing! Something extremely awful!
I have a cousin that is 6 years old, he is from what I can tell a psychopath...I know it is totally crazy to call someone on your own family a psychopath, but he is surely detached from humanity.

He is very temperamental, especially when his demands are not fulfilled, he screams and gets super mad, he can do this whenever he wants and have his parents under control. (He seems possessed)

The other day, he came to my house and went outside to the garden, and stepted on dog shit, he then came inside my house and started to run around the living room and dinning room all over the carpets.... And finally when he was stopped by his mother, he felt no remorse, he was just like "Oh I did that? whatever" which totally puzzled me, I remember when I was young I used to feel guilt a lot, but he seemed to be unbothered by the disaster he had cause on a sunday afternoon. Not even an I'm sorry came out of his mouth... He seemed to enjoy watching his mom washing his shoes and me trying to clean the carpets, so my Mom could rest and enjoy her mothers day without being stress out by this mess. My cousin is banned from this house I you ask me, he gives me the creeps...I don't want to keep a relationship with him, when he grows up he could be dangerous. He literally was a psychopath in the garden....


EDU

 

[Aneke]

Well, this has really been on my mind a lot lately. Especially the parts about psychopaths in one's own family.

It's hard to throw out your own emotional ties and look at a person objectively, summarizing everything you know about them and coming to the most logical conclusion. I was emotionally battered by my grandfather for over ten years. We lived next door to him and spent a lot of time with him. He truly believed that women are inferior and literally followed my sister and I wherever we went on the ranch. He made a point to oversee the simplest of chores: milking the cow, feeding chickens, etc. We were not allowed to drive vehicles or machinery. And anything we did on our own, he would go back and redo it. I eventually gave up irrigating, gardening, and riding horses. After a while, we barely left the house. The worst part is, he would do a substandard job and blame us. Also, he was intentionally cruel to the livestock, which I never understood.

People would always make excuses for him. He's old. He's from a different generation. Well, I don't buy any of that. I don't think there's any excuse for how we were treated. I thought for a while he was just angry and lonely and needed someone to take it out on. From what I know now, I can be safe to assume he is a psychopath.

And then, back to young psychopaths: my sister.

I've heard many people say that she seems to be emotionless or pretends to have emotions. I've experienced this firsthand many times, most recently, we took flowers to family graves on Memorial Day. Now, I have never gotten upset about death or the loss of loved ones. I can accept that they have moved on. That day, while sitting on the grass beside headstones, I was quietly remembering fun times with my great aunt and uncle, and wondering where they might be at this moment, and what they might be doing. My sister got very melodramatic and began talking about how tragic their deaths were and how horrible their funerals were, and how she could sense the presence of "dead people", how cemeteries freak her out, and so on... I was quite turned off but said nothing and continued to listen, and she sat there and told me what was obviously what she thought I wanted to hear.

My parents have dropped something to the tune of 75 thousand dollars on her college education, and out of the blue she stopped going to college. She actually pretended to go. My father went to visit her and she acted like she was going to class and doing homework. When she finally got caught in her lie, she simply cut off all contact. She hasn't spoken to them in at least eight months. I have brought up the fact that she needs to face this issue, and she seems completely without remorse. She doesn't care in the slightest.

I don't want to get out there and just label her a psychopath. But, the way it looks, that's what she is, and I feel that it may be wise to stop trying to be involved. After all, I'm the one who will get hurt. She could care less.

Young psychopaths are like any other psychopaths. They use you for their own gain and then dump you at the corner. They'll do this with their families, and their parents. I think it's important to go with "tough love". I still love my sister, of course. So do my parents. But if she can only have a relationship were she takes everything and gives nothing, then it will never work.

 

[EGVG]

I don't think your sister is a psychopath, based on the information you gave, maybe extremely narcissistic ;)

 

[Nawd]

Having a Psychopath in ones own family is of course possible. However in my experience, there are many other causes that can resemble that condition. That's a catch 22 also, because my brother having 'Borderline Personality Disorder, Attention Deficient Disorder, Bipolar, and of course Manic Depressive Disorder'- well he's been diagnosed as many things and he never took his medication.

The conclusion I've come to is he is in fact a Psychopath. Other people's conclusion is "he has a mental disorder so treat him with care" (not: 'treat Yourself with care when around him - and attempt to cut all contact.)

I suspected something was way off when we were young. There are hundreds of stories of him I could recount, and will if needed. But skipping over all of that, he was as everyone wanted him to be for his own purpose. He will do whatever you imply if it means (and he will carefully weigh this out) - that he will get something. Be it just attention, money, a truck, a place to stay, food. Anything. He thinks everyone else is just completely stupid.

If one is 'smart enough' to call him out on his actions, he will give you a look, almost 'exposed,' but he knows that the person he is talking to is speaking about a situation, not a personality (or condition) as a whole.

Eventually that made me his enemy, as I saw him as a whole, not as his parts. I played his game long enough to learn that I know him and when I found a word for it, I warned people who were involved with him in any way. Dad, girlfriends (so many), friends. I just said 'Hey just be careful and watch him.' They would ask "why?" "Just be careful OK?" I didn't just call up people, but would warn them when they asked 'so what's with you brother?" and I'd not add more than a warning.

I've observed him for so many years. He is terrifying to me.

He would said we, just the two of us were 'blood family' being that we were both adopted and are brother and sister and also went through the same situations. Abuse, adoption, divorce of our parents on and on. But 'in the end' all of those tears and faked emotions (and I know they were fake because he could 'snap out of it' in a second.)Well as his sister, I eventually figured it out. Even his girlfriend, who he pretended to have a broken arm after pushing around my elderly father- (blaming an injury on an 84 year old), put an exparte out on him and she has to renew it every year. My dad did not press charges.

I've never gotten close to his new girlfriends, as they always end up either leaving or pressing charges.

Thankfully he is in prison now.

I wouldn't sleep at night if he were not there, and when he gets out I'll have to make a new plan to keep him away from my family.

The point I guess I'm trying to make is that a true Psychopath may not be able to be identified until years and years of observation. If they end up leaving just scorched Earth behind them as they continue in life, yet blame the others for everything, OR say they were wrong, AND show emotion to just a select few YET seem unscathed, there is a good chance to watch more and then decide. My brother is a 'failed psychopath.' He isn't (and could not be) in an situation of power, but he was before he went to prison, just with everyone in the family and anyone near him.

If you observe, you'll find, and if you have one in your family, just run.

That's how scary my brother is to me.

I don't know how helpful that is EGVG, but it can give you some signs perhaps.

Six year old kids can be odd and perhaps cruel, and not be a Psychopath. (I have three kids around the same age) They can give you the same signs and it be something else.

It took me 30 years of watching, even after finding our forum, to conclude he is what he is. And I'm glad he is locked up so that me and my family can sleep at night.