I would be surprised if at the apex of the power pyramid were people that we know by name.
The Rothschilds certainly are important power brokers, but they are too prominent and numerous to fit the bill.
Sorry to be so slow in responding. I have been working on two articles, one of which I am now close to posting. Sadly, my sister is back in hospital again, this time with water on her lung. There seems to be a problem in balancing her medication, which I hope her doctors can swiftly resolve.
You may be right about the apex of power and the Rothschilds but I would still argue that prominent members of this family are no cardboard cut outs like the Royal Family are here in the UK. All dynasties eventually die out or melt into obscurity. We know from the C's that the original founder of the Rothschild dynasty was an underworlder who no doubt had a superior intellect and a better understanding of how the world is really run by the PTB. His five sons set up shop in five different countries and created a worldwide banking empire the like of which the world has rarely seen. However, with successive generations marrying surface world dwellers, it is likely the Rothschild underworlder gene pool has been much diluted. For example, the present scion of the English branch of the family,
Nathan Rothschild, does not seem to have the sure business touch that his father, the late
Jacob Rothschild, had. My reading of the financial press suggests that he has often found himself out manoeuvred in business dealings. However, let us not underestimate the role his family played in the most important events of the 20th century.
Some of the the Rothschilds (others were indifferent) played an important part in producing the
Balfour Declaration, which recognised the right of the Jewish people to their own homeland, which eventually paved the way for the establishment of the present state of Israel. In order to achieve this, it was necessary to dislodge the Turks from Palestine, which was still a Turkish colony in the First World War. This task was given to
General Allenby who had put at his disposal a large army comprising British Empire and French troops to accomplish the mission. The creation of this army required hundreds of thousands of troops to be withdrawn from the Western Front where they had been opposing German forces. This almost brought around the collapse of the allied lines on the Western Front when (after securing a peace deal with the Russian Bolsheviks on the Eastern Front) a reinforced German army launched an all out massive attack on the allied lines known as
Operation Michael (
German:
Unternehmen Michael) that began on 21 March 1918. It says something, therefore, that the Palestine campaign should have been given such prominence to the point where it almost undermined the main front of the war. This might, however, indicate the clout of the Rothschilds and their Zionist friends over the British and French governments, where the former had rather different priorities to pursue.
However, things get even more interesting when you move to the Second World War and the career of the main British Rothschild of the time
Lord Victor Rothschild, the father of recently deceased Jacob Rothschild. As Wikipedia states, he was a British scientist, intelligence officer and later a senior executive with Royal Dutch Shell and
N M Rothschild & Sons, and was an advisor to the Edward Heath and Margaret Thatcher Conservative governments of the UK. Here was a real player.
Rothschild was recruited to work for MI5 during World War II in roles including bomb disposal, disinformation and espionage. He was the head of B1C, the "explosives and sabotage section", and worked on identifying where Britain's war effort was vulnerable to sabotage and counter German sabotage attempts. He also ran the
"Fifth Column" operation, that saw MI5 officer Eric Roberts masquerade as the Gestapo's man in London in order to identify hundreds of Nazi sympathizers. It should be noted here that Rothschild had a direct reporting line to Winston Churchill and his cabinet. Although I cannot prove it, I am pretty sure that Victor Rothschild was well aware of the plot involving members of the British aristocracy and other prominent British notables who wanted to preserve the British Empire and sue for peace with the Germans, which culminated in a peace plan brokered by Rudolf Hess (who through his membership of the Thule Society had contacts with British Rosicrucians) and Hermann Goering. This plan was ultimately shot down in flames when the aircraft carrying the real Rudolf Hess crashed in Scotland whilst supposedly heading to Iceland, then under British military occupation. Almost certainly, the plane's real destination was Sweden where Hermann Goering had powerful allies who had helped him when he was wounded in the infamous Nazi Munich putsch and had sought refuge in Sweden to recover from his wounds. Indeed, Hitler had been suspicious of Goering's involvement in the Hess affair and was left wondering how Hess, an accomplished pilot, had managed to evade the Luftwaffe's defences.
However, on that same aircraft was the
Duke of Kent, King George VI's younger brother, who was carrying a briefcase full of cash. King George was so mortified by his brother's death that he visited the crash site soon afterwards. He repeatedly asked investigators on the ground how many bodies they had recovered (there was only one survivor - a junior aircraftsman who was sworn to secrecy) and seemed concerned at the figure he was told. He knew there should have been one more body and that was the body of Hess. This suggests the King himself was aware of the plan that, if successful, would have scuppered Illuminati plans concerning the aftermath of WW2. The King had one power over Churchill under his constitutional prerogative as monarch and that was the power to sack him as his Prime Minister (recalling that Churchill led a wartime coalition government and cabinet). Whether Victor Rothschild had a direct hand in the downing of the Duke of Kent's aircraft is impossible to determine today since all the main players involved are long dead. Perhaps the C's could tell us?
Victor Rothschild was held in high regard in Israel where in 1971 Rothschild was awarded an honorary degree from Tel Aviv University for ''the advancement of science, education and the economy of Israel''. It was followed in 1975 by an honorary degree from Jerusalem's Hebrew University. The annual "
Victor Rothschild Memorial Symposia" is named after Rothschild. However, I suspect his greatest achievement was helping to establish the Israeli secret service organisation known as Mossad. With his background and experience as a senior MI5 officer during the war, he was well placed in helping to establish that organisation. Perhaps the C's confirmed as much when they said in the
session dated 17 August 2003:
(S) So is Mossad part of that?
A: Mossad is near the apex of the 3D consortium. The lines blur at that level.
Q: (Perceval) What's the relationship between the Mossad and the Rothschilds?
A: Mossad is a "brainchild."
{Laughter at the joke - "Rothschild" "Brainchild" - Discussion mainly Perceval) wondering whether the Rothschilds are part of the apex or if they are just useful idiots that are going to be double-crossed also. C's break in as Laura is not understanding Perceval's question.}
A: The lines blur. Rothschilds are similar in a smaller way to Sargon. Deep level punctuator.
Q: (L) What is a deep level punctuator?
A: One who emerges from seeming obscurity to "make a mark" on history. Don't you wonder where they come from. Think "deep."
Q: As in underground bases?
A: Well, what a concept!
Was it Victor Rothschild's brainchild? Did Mossad become a sort of "murder incorporated" for the Rothschilds to be used to carry out the Illuminati's dirty work? How often they seem to be behind attacks or incidents, which appear to have no obvious benefit to the state of Israel but do to the Illuminati, as has been confirmed in the Forum transcripts over the years. This includes 9/11, which was a murderous attack on Israel's most staunch ally the United States.
However, Víctor Rothschild may not have been just a spy for MI5, he may also have spied for the Soviets. As Wikipedia tells us:
At
Trinity College, Cambridge, Rothschild joined the
Cambridge Apostles, a secret society, which at that time was predominantly Marxist, though he stated himself that he "
was mildly left-wing but never a Marxist" [
MJF: To quote Mandy Rice Davis when giving evidence in the witness box at the trail of Stephen Ward which had resulted from the notorious 1963 Profumo affair - "He would say that wouldn't he"]. He became friends with
Guy Burgess,
Anthony Blunt and
Kim Philby; members of the
Cambridge Spy Ring. His flat in London was shared with Burgess and Blunt. This later aroused suspicion that he was the so-called Fifth Man in the Cambridge Spy Ring. In 1933, Rothschild gave Blunt £100 to purchase "
Eliezer and Rebecca" by
Nicolas Poussin [
MJF: Hmmm. Was Blunt aware of the Poussin mystery I wonder?]. The painting was sold by Blunt's executors in 1985 for £100,000 and is now in the Fitzwilliam Museum.
When Anthony Blunt was unmasked as a member of the Cambridge Spy ring in 1964, Rothschild was questioned by Special Branch (though Blunt was not publicly identified as a Soviet agent until 1979 in the House of Commons by Prime Minister
Margaret Thatcher). Rothschild was cleared, and continued working on projects for the British government. He was still able to enter the premises of MI5 as a former employee and was aware of suspicions there was a "mole" in MI5, but felt himself above suspicion [
MJF: Well he would wouldn't he!]. While Edward Heath [
MJF: A man I have deep suspicions about] was Prime Minister, Rothschild was a frequent visitor to Chequers, the Prime Minister's country residence [
MJF: Presumably to check up on his glove puppet]. Throughout Rothschild's life, he was a
valued adviser on intelligence and science to both Conservative and Labour Governments.
In his 1994 book
The Fifth Man, Australian author
Roland Perry asserted that in 1993, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, six retired KGB colonels, including
Yuri Modin, the spy ring's handler, alleged Rothschild was the so-called "Fifth Man": "
Rothschild was the key to most of the Cambridge ring's penetration of British intelligence."
He had the contacts", Modin noted. "
He was able to introduce Burgess, Blunt and others to important figures in Intelligence such as Stewart Menzies, Dick White and Robert Vansittart in the Foreign Office ... who controlled MI6." The political establishment rallied to Rothschild's defence and MI5 joined in by confirming that there was "
No Trace" against his name". Rothschild even took the step of publishing a letter in British newspapers on 3 December 1986 to state
"I am not, and never have been, a Soviet agent". Perhaps he could truthfully say this since the Soviets were instead his family's agents. Eventually, John Cairncross, an MI6 agent, would be named as the Fifth Man. However, Cairncross himself did not accept that he was a member of the Cambridge Five. He insisted that the information that he had provided to the Soviet Union was not in any way harmful to Britain, and believed that he had maintained his loyalty towards his homeland (although many had good reasons to doubt his refutation). As a result of this, a number of researchers continue to believe that Victor Rothschild was the real “fifth man.” None of the five named spies were ultimately punished, and all died a natural death.
However, since Roland Perry's book, new evidence has surfaced, suggesting that if not the Fifth Man, Rothschild was indeed working for Soviet foreign intelligence alongside the Cambridge Five from the 1930’s up to the initial stages of the Cold War. The source is none other than the first chairman of the KGB,
General Ivan Aleksandrovich Serov (1905-1991).
Extract from an article called 'VICTOR ROTHSCHILD, SOVIET SPY':
Serov describes meeting Rothschild while accompanying premier Khrushchev on his April 1956 visit to London:
I met with Victor Rothschild only once, at the embassy. This person was well-known from very long ago as an “heir” to the Philby affair and others. He knew perfectly well that these people, having certain inclinations, were connected to us, and used them to pass on information to Moscow, including false information.
Overall, useful ties with him ended with the formation of Israel.
As you remember, the British government was always against the creation of Israel, while Rothschild, to the contrary, aided this.
All materials on the Palestinian problem in the 1940’s and on the British position were received by our intelligence service in the 1930’s-40’s. After Burgess and Maclean’s escape, he only appeared at official receptions at our embassies and met with the ambassador, Mikoyan or Malenkov.
In London he made an unpleasant impression on me. He didn’t inspire trust. I’ve met many such hustlers in Bessarabia and Romania, as well as in Germany after the war.
The contact, according to the program of the visit and issues for discussions with the British, was interesting, of course. But Rothschild always pursued only his own goals. In his own way, Rothschild also compromised Philby and others. Ties with him put the information passed on by them in doubt.
We were helped by such solid, serious, moral and non-mercenary people who shared our views, such as Bernal, Ivor Montagu, and major scientists. Rothschild was just a fellow traveller.
The ex-chairman of the KGB opens his passage with a stunning claim – Victor Rothschild not only knew of his school friends’ espionage, he actively supplied information to Moscow Centre through their network. Back in their Cambridge days, Rothschild, Burgess, and Blunt had all been members of the Apostles, a campus society characterized by Marxist intellectual speculation and homosexual activity. But as Serov makes clear, Rothschild the ‘fellow traveller’ was not under Soviet control. Rather, it is implied he was pursuing another aim entirely – the creation of a Jewish state, a family dream fulfilled in the aftermath of the Second World War. The role of the Rothschilds in founding Israel is undisputed; the Balfour Declaration of 1917 was due largely to the energies of young Victor’s uncle, Lord Walter Rothschild Secret diplomacy, double-dealing, the use of spies, and even terrorism all formed an indispensable part of the drama. And now Serov’s revelation would suggest that by the end of the 1940’s, the Soviet Union had outlived its utility in the eyes of the legendary financial dynasty.
For more on this see:
Victor Rothschild, Soviet Spy
However, despite Serov's claims cited above, Victor Rothschild may still have remained in the espionage game. In the 1950's, Victor Rothschild, as a leading government scientific advisor, took a close interest in Britain's nuclear weapons programme, which my late father played a small role in. Given his position as a trusted security and scientific advisor, it would have been an easy matter for him to pass nuclear secrets on to the Soviets, perhaps through the likes of John Cairncross. I recall reading an article once (unfortunately, I have not been able to track it down again for this post) where it was alleged Rothschild visited a secret nuclear research laboratory in the 1950's in his capacity as a government scientific advisor (he himself was a trained PHd scientist) having the necessary security clearances to do so. There he brazenly took a piece of apparatus being developed for Britain's nuclear warheads and pocketed it and left the building. The next day the apparatus ended up at the Soviet embassy. If true, he really must have believed that he was untouchable and seemingly he was.
Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild
I have largely concentrated on the UK activities of the Rothschilds but they were still influential in the USA, at least when Bill Clinton was the President. Sir Evelyn de Rothschild (Jacob's cousin) and his wife,
Lady Lynn Forester de Rothschild even honeymooned at the White House at Clinton's request. Presidents don't just invite anyone to honeymoon at the White House. Lynn Forester de Rothschild is it turns out a long-time friend and supporter of Hillary Clinton. Quoting her ladyship when endorsing Clinton's presidential campaign against Donald Trump in 2016:
“
I personally believe Clinton is better because she’s lived her life trying to figure out how to make life better for people who are struggling, and she understands how the successful can help the struggling.”
Yeah, Hilary is just full of the milk of human kindness! For a short interview with Lady de Rothschild see:
Donald Trump has gamed the system his whole life: Lady Rothschild
When Hilary Clinton was the Governor of New York State, she once made a seemingly jokey apology to Lady de Rothschild for luring away one of her ladyship's party guests so he could make a speech at a conference hosted by Governor Clinton. She even mentioned that she would probably have to do some form of a penance for her action. That was a strange term to use for a non-Roman Catholic and smacks of the sort of terminology used within secret societies or sorority groups. However, for a woman as arrogant and ambitious as Hilary Clinton, this suggest she still knows her place in the pecking order and Lady de Rothschild is evidently much, much higher.
Returning to Lord Victor Rothschild, I have made much of his intelligence activities above but you can have an even more damaging affect on a nation by altering its social foundations. Lord Rothschild had a voice in the UK political establishment by being a member of the House of Lords, one of the two chambers of the UK Parliament (the House of Lords' role being somewhat similar to that of the US House of Congress). However, in all his time as a member of the House of Lords he only ever made two speeches. Nevertheless, you can gain political influence by using selected politicians to do your bidding, thereby avoiding direct accountability. One such man was Roy Jenkins.
Roy Jenkins
Roy Jenkins was a British politician and writer who served as the sixth President of the European Commission from 1977 to 1981. At various times he was a Member of Parliament (MP) for the British Labour Party, the Social Democratic Party (SDP) and the Liberal Democrats. He would serve as the Chancellor of the Exchequer and Home Secretary in the Wilson and Callaghan Labour Governments, two of the highest offices in the land. He was thus a heavy weight politician. He was born the son of a Welsh coal-miner and Labour MP, who was educated at the University of Oxford and, like Victor Rothschild, served as an intelligence officer during the Second World War. Curiously for this thread, Jenkins received his officer training at
Alton Towers, which he described by saying that he spent ‘
six god-forsaken months’ at Alton Towers, an experience that left him ‘
completely dazed’. What a strange connection though? Jenkins was also sent to
Bletchley Park to work as a codebreaker, presumably under Allen Turing.
For those on the right, Jenkins is today viewed as the father of the "permissive society". In 1959 he wrote a book called
The Labour Case in which he set out his progressive agenda for the Labour Party when it took power, as it would eventually in 1964. In the final chapter of he book ('Is Britain Civilised?') Jenkins set out a list of what he saw as necessary progressive social reforms which were as follows:
The abolition of the death penalty, decriminalisation of homosexuality, abolition of the Lord Chamberlain's powers of theatre censorship, liberalisation of the licensing and betting laws, liberalisation of the divorce laws, legalisation of abortion, decriminalisation of suicide and more liberal immigration laws.
Jenkins would in government oversee all of these legislative changes and more, many of which have had a disastrous affect on the British population. When warned that mass immigration, especially from the Caribbean and Indian Sub-Continent, would turn our inner cities into ghettoes like those in the United States, Jenkins responded that this would never happen. He went on record by saying "
they will become just like us". Well guess what, they haven't as this recent picture of a successful Green Party Councillor demonstrates.
Mothin Ali shouted 'Allahu akbar!' after victorious election result
The writer and social commentator
Peter Hitchens in his book
The Abolition of Britain accused Jenkins of being a "cultural revolutionary" who takes a large part of the responsibility for the decline of "traditional values" in Britain. During the 1980s
Margaret Thatcher and
Norman Tebbit would blame Jenkins for family breakdowns, the decline of respect for authority and the decline of social responsibility.
Jenkins would later in his life become something of a guru or mentor to the young
Tony Blair who, as a youthful Labour Leader, sought Jenkins' 'advice, particularly about how to construct a Government.
When you read a biography of Roy Jenkins you seldom come across his long-term association with Victor Rothschild but the two men were definitely very close associates. It is perhaps understandable that this association should be played down since the Rothschilds are notorious for avoiding publicity of any kind. Its is fair to say that Roy Jenkins, although coming from an ordinary background and being a Labour politician who, as a socialist, was supposedly meant to represent aspirations of the working classes, liked the high life (aristocratic soirees, champagne dinners at expensive restaurants etc.) and hobnobbed with many of the leading aristocrats of the day. He even rented a dower or estate house from
John Jacob Astor (a senior member of another leading Illuminati family) for weekends and holidays with the use of its large park, swimming pool and tennis courts, which allowed Jenkins to play at being a country gentleman like those of the Edwardian era that he so much admired. Rather like the Victorian character Phileas Fogg in Jules Verne's
Around the World in 80 Days, Jenkins belonged to the best gentlemen's clubs and dining clubs in London. When he quit British politics and London to go the European Commission in Brussels in 1977 as the new President of the Commission he was given a farewell dinner by his closest male friends, which was hosted by, you guessed, it Lord Victor Rothschild and John Jacob Astor. There was not one ex-Labour Party man amongst them and they would toast Jenkins with Chateau Lafite Rothschild 1945. How appropriate you might think.
For more on this see:
PressReader.com - Zeitungen aus der ganzen Welt
Although it is impossible to prove, I believe that Jenkins was used by men like Victor Rothschild and John Jacob Astor.to carry out the Illuminati agenda through the liberal, progressive political reforms he championed and supported through Parliament, which have resulted in the society we have in Britain today, a society that is divided, broken and increasingly lacking in social cohesion. I believe that Jenkins was mentored and manoeuvred into high office by these men in the same way that
Bernard Baruch mentored and guided the career of President
Dwight D. Eisenhower. When opening a new park in New York whilst he was President that was dedicated to Baruch's father (or grandfather), Eisenhower made a speech during which he turned to Baruch and said "
I owe everything to this man. He took a birdshot Colonel and made him into the person you see today." I suspect Jenkins could have said much the same about Victor Rothschild.
Although I have spent much of this post dishing the Rothschilds and especially Victor Rothschild, I must, as a humble retired village cricketer, give him credit for one thing and that was that he was a first class cricketer who played for Oxford University and the Northampton County Cricket team, where his experience of batting against the legendary Nottinghamshire and England fast bowling pair of
Harold Larwood and
Bill Voce he was later to describe
as the most alarming of his life.
This denoted rare courage on his part as Larwood was one of the fastest bowlers of all time (bowling at speeds of close to 100 mph) and featured in the infamous 'Body Line' test match series in Australia in 1932/33, which so soured relations between Australia and Britain that the Australians even considered leaving the British Empire, such were the recriminations over it. One Australian commentator even said at the time that it was "
just not cricket", a phrase that has now gone down into the English lexicon. For those who think cricket is a quaint, gentile and rather odd English game, you might want to watch the shorting accompanying video to see what I am talking about (N.B batsmen now wear helmets and body armour to face this, but not in those days). Hence, the fact that Victor Rothschild was prepared to go out and face these bowlers in their prime is my one and only point of admiration where he is concerned
.