Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

I'm seeing a lot of "Stand with Ukraine!" slogans on FB today. The disconnect and cluelessness of some (many) people I know is still jaw-dropping to me. This is a comment left by a friend of mine on his take about the Trump/Zelensky meeting:
I once worked for a man who used to wag his finger at me/at us constantly when he was trying to make his points. I wanted to grab it & break it off his hand! The restraint that President Zelensky showed during this bullying demonstration was unbelievable. That he wouldn’t bow down and kiss Trump’s ring (or his ass) speaks volumes of his character. This is the elected President of the US that we are seeing acting like this! The free world needs you Europe!!
 
A warning: The following is likely a fake, namely, that Putin never said that (I couldn't find anything that would suggest that he said that), but what if that is actually what Putin would/could do?

"If everyone has finally rejected Ukraine, then we are ready to accept it into the Russian Federation," Putin


It would certainly solve quite a number of the previously mentioned problems in regard to the negotiations with Trump ahead! It would solve a number of problems and goals for the Russians at once too, while they get a lot out of it, but also potentially inviting a lot of work and dangers into Russia.
 
A warning: The following is likely a fake, namely, that Putin never said that (I couldn't find anything that would suggest that he said that), but what if that is actually what Putin would/could

It would certainly solve quite a number of the previously mentioned problems in regard to the negotiations with Trump ahead! It would solve a number of problems and goals for the Russians at once too, while they get a lot out of it, but also potentially inviting a lot of work and dangers into Russia.
I’m extremely skeptical that Putin actually said that. As far as I know, Putin has no, nor has he ever had any desire to accept Ukraine into the Russian Federation. Why would he want the responsibility and expense of a country full of Russophobia NAZIs? The oblasts Russia has folded into its world are primarily Russian speaking, Orthodox people who identify as Russian. Ukrainians need not apply. Let Poland have what was Polish. Let Romania have what was Romanian. And Russia will take its own. But Russia is not going to pay for healthcare and retirement for Ukrainians who hate Russians just because they lost the war; Ukrainians who might secretly plot against them in the future.

At least that’s my understanding.
 
Dang, Rubio was excellent. He clearly knows more than he lets on, but he masterfully packaged it all in a way that nobody half-sane could possibly disagree.

Caught my attention too! Guy was killing it. I guess that's the effect of adhering to reality and not trying to gaslight us into a false narrative. The brain just works better.

And also while watching it I had a feeling that it wasn't planned by Trump at all. It felt so natural and Trump with Vance didn't try to provoke Z, Vance's answer wasn't provocative.

That was my initial thought though, I suspected they were kayfabing as it was so out there, but eventually downed on me that it was on the contrary a genius move by Trump, who is no stranger to and has no fear of public quarreling and having his say. For this to have the impact it had, it needed to be raw and unscripted, which it wouldn't have happened if they had prepared a statement after a closed-door meeting.

Even my mom, who has no interest in following geopolitics, shared the video. This made me think that the public repulsion to Zelensky's behavior comes from the violation of the sacred law of hospitality. He acted like an ass while being a guest at someone else's home. A condemnable attitude in personal relations, but a cardinal sin in diplomacy. Effectively, stripping himself off of the title of dignitary, of being worthy of representing the will of a nation or people.
 
I say this without incurring the danger of defending Zelenski, except as a comedian ( I have no need to do this, he has always been to me a pain in the ass, and there are testimonies here as well). But I found this performance EXCELLENT. As for many others outside the maga bubble, this performance represents exactly what has been happening for EONS to the pawns of the US. The vance trump duo shamelessly, and with a face like an oscar ass, collaborated great. And the result is there to see. ah. Zelenski could have done better. But he has always been mediocre. Otherwise they wouldn't have chosen him. He remains a pawn. Enjoy the show :-)

I tend towards this not being an act or any kind of pre-scripted performance by Zelensky. I think he has lost any ability to act as in addition to the drugs, there are other forces driving and completely in control of him. This could very well be related to downloading into a corrupt vessel via that portal in Ukraine, as @Aeneas mentioned.
 
Caught my attention too! Guy was killing it. I guess that's the effect of adhering to reality and not trying to gaslight us into a false narrative. The brain just works better.
He did sneak in some gaslighting in there too regarding Russia, though certainly much less than what was done before.

Rubio became popular as a regular career politician, so I don't trust him at all. I think he is just opportunistic and will say whatever benefits him the most - in this case it just happens that he can stick more to the truth on certain topics.

It would certainly solve quite a number of the previously mentioned problems in regard to the negotiations with Trump ahead! It would solve a number of problems and goals for the Russians at once too, while they get a lot out of it, but also potentially inviting a lot of work and dangers into Russia.
For Russia to agree taking all of Ukraine would actually be a major concession from them, they almost certainly do not want the Western parts. I think Russia does want more of Eastern Ukraine, the Black Sea coast towards Transnistria and maybe Kiev itself - but they are probably flexible on where exactly they stop.
 
I tend towards this not being an act or any kind of pre-scripted performance by Zelensky. I think he has lost any ability to act as in addition to the drugs, there are other forces driving and completely in control of him. This could very well be related to downloading into a corrupt vessel via that portal in Ukraine, as @Aeneas mentioned.

Why do you need "downloads" when Zelensky is a well-known drug addict and narcissistic asshole?

That said, he's obviously being handled by US and EU politicians and 'advisors', and his little stunt yesterday could well have been at their behest.
 
I imagine Zelensky meeting with Democrats before the meeting strengthened his resolve to have a bellicose attitude.

Also, the fact that Pres.Trump on greeting said Zelensky at WH door, commented on where his suit was. From start to finish Zelensky totally misread the room.

I feel that once the Usaid. starts drying up in Europe his support will start diminishing.
 
Why do you need "downloads" when Zelensky is a well-known drug addict and narcissistic asshole?

That said, he's obviously being handled by US and EU politicians and 'advisors', and his little stunt yesterday could well have been at their behest.

I imagine Zelensky meeting with Democrats before the meeting strengthened his resolve to have a bellicose attitude.

Also, the fact that Pres.Trump on greeting said Zelensky at WH door, commented on where his suit was. From start to finish Zelensky totally misread the room.

I feel that once the Usaid. starts drying up in Europe his support will start diminishing.
 
Same here. Made the mistake of trying to post some explanations of what is going, but disinformation and TDS has taken over any discerning brain cells that they may have had before the jab.
Yes, I was reminded recently by a physician that the jab causes brain damage... So sadly, this was what came to mind when speaking with someone I've been trying for years to look at what's really going on, the other side and not MSM. It's a significant understanding to appraise what's going on with many people I think. Remember the C's saying the main purpose of the C19 was to control people, I suppose the Jab was the main delivery of that among other objectives.
 
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