Weird behaviour of Hollywood stars - how Hollywood facade is crumbling and I'm here for it

[Elisasheva]

I'm starting this thread to analyze a little the weird, uncanny behaviour of some Hollywood stars these days, especially to look closer at interviews and promotion in general of a new "Wicked" movie starring Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo. And it's even more sad when we consider that it is set in the universe of Oz, which as we know is full of allegories of truth about human condition and our world in general. Why did they pick exactly this piece to twist it and make it into some sick joke? Who knows.
I'm going to leave some videos here for you to watch and see for yourself what I'm referring to:

That's one of the interviews in which both actors are behaving in a very childish way, almost like they're drugged or playing some twisted, sick personas. The well known toxic positivity is on another level. And that ending.. no words. Just cringe, pure licking of each other's butts.

Here some analysis I found interesting:

Why is it interesting and important to bring up? With each passing year, I notice that the behavior of celebrities seems to increasingly resemble that of people from The Hunger Games. They not only start dressing similarly but also behaving in ways that, in my opinion, look even worse than the people of Capitol. These two actresses promote dramatic behavior, crying, getting emotional over the dumbest things, holding hands, and Cynthia constantly portrays herself as a victim of racism, hate, her struggles, emotions etc, even though she's an actress earning millions. The actors behave as if they’ve survived two wars and beaten cancer. Their narcissism is flowing out of the screen constantly. Of course, I don’t even need to mention that they claim the movie supports queer and diversity (Ariana even said something along the lines of how all of Oz is queer, and even the chickens there are gay and gay parades are there everyday...). This is just becoming downright pathetic. Society is divided: many people see it as fake and mentally unwell behavior, but many others are deeply moved and strongly support it.

For me it's just uncanny and it's hard for me to look at it. These two genuinely scare me. I don't know what happened to this world tbh, it turned into some twisted, narcissistic, make pretend, toxic positivity place full of crap. Only me me me everywhere. And my emotions.

And even if it is just their acting for promotion purposes it still doesn't change what is being promoted these days.

 

[meadow_wind]

This emoji sums up what I felt during those interviews... I stopped after the 3rd one.
I'm not watching that movie.
The crazies are easy to spot and I try to avoid them. As for celebrities, some of them know about the dark side of being rich and famous, wether it's in Hollywood or elsewhere, and they try to stay away from it outside of their work. Patrick Swayze, Mel Gibson and Jim Caviezel are good examples.

 

[Natus Videre]

Hollywood turned into Hollytrash and is now setting itself up for Hollysmash.

 

[Elisasheva]

This emoji sums up what I felt during those interviews... I stopped after the 3rd one.
I'm not watching that movie.
The crazies are easy to spot and I try to avoid them. As for celebrities, some of them know about the dark side of being rich and famous, wether it's in Hollywood or elsewhere, and they try to stay away from it outside of their work. Patrick Swayze, Mel Gibson and Jim Caviezel are good examples.

I'd add Keanu Reeves as well. Some celebrities just went too far, probably using drugs from the young age, attending weird gatherings and parties, some being sexually assaulted, which made them empty shells. Ariana's behavior alone has been analyzed as well.

That's gold btw:

 

[whitecoast]

Everything you’re saying above is correct. What I sometimes struggle with, though is having judgements about those allegedly privileged people, because there’s a very good chance that all of them are heavily programmed by Greenbaum methods. Given the filtering for celebrities, there is a very good chance that people are put into these positions of fame and privilege because of their susceptibility and the ease with which they can be controlled.

A part of me wonders if the increasingly over-the-top behaviour is in someway a call back to the aristocratic decadence of pre-revolution, France. Are they priming people for social upheavals in which we have these imbecilic celebrities serving as symbolic cultural scapegoats while the master who control them just get away Scotfree and resume their regular routine controls?

 

[gdpetti]

I still think the best site for the whole 'Hollywood' angle is The Vigilant Citizen - Symbols Rule the World

PS... that Hunger Games analogy is excellent... so apt.

 

[Elisasheva]

Everything you’re saying above is correct. What I sometimes struggle with, though is having judgements about those allegedly privileged people, because there’s a very good chance that all of them are heavily programmed by Greenbaum methods. Given the filtering for celebrities, there is a very good chance that people are put into these positions of fame and privilege because of their susceptibility and the ease with which they can be controlled.

A part of me wonders if the increasingly over-the-top behaviour is in someway a call back to the aristocratic decadence of pre-revolution, France. Are they priming people for social upheavals in which we have these imbecilic celebrities serving as symbolic cultural scapegoats while the master who control them just get away Scotfree and resume their regular routine controls?

Taking into consideration what Anneke Lucas was reporting - that they wanted to make her some kind of celebrity in the end - it's highly likely that a lot of those the most funded, advertised, hyped celebrities might in fact be victims of mind control, but I wouldn't say all of them are. It's weird to imagine how those individuals mix with let's say "normal people" among artists or whatever. Some of them normals spilled some tea in one interview or two.

The pre revolution comparison is very accurate! I see a huge detachment from reality in them and what amazes me is that a lot of people still support and defend them and their behavior... Truly astonishing. The mannerism, clothes, some imaginary contribution to humanity they claim their job brings, all delusions they live in (f.ex. that the biggest problem people face right now is identity crisis or misgendering...). It's all very decadent.

@gdpetti thanks for the recommendation! I'll take a look at this

 

[Persej]

 

[Ca.]

Miley Cyrus appears to be in an altered state!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897140184267022822

https://twitter.com/x/status/1897447049022349716

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896324299226742983

Political theater against Russia

https://twitter.com/x/status/1896396737037910436

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Anora was released on October 18, 2024, by Neon to strong positive reviews.

It won five awards at the 97th Academy Awards, more than any other movie, winning for Best Picture, Best Actress (Madison), Best Original Screenplay, Best Film Editing, and Best Director.

 

[palestine]

There seems to be a mix of different things present in those celebrities. Two ideas come to mind:

1) All the front attitudes match something. One article sums it up quite perfectly, it's about all that "political correctness", "progressivism" etc:

Good Citzen Substack - "A Requiem for Retards"

... the first wave of political correctnes ...

(...)

In the decade that followed, political correctness was contrived in the laboratory of infectious social diseases devoted to plaguing the liberal mind and spreading its noxious ideas worldwide. The liberal mind is both a proud host and fervent vector for the proliferation of many civilization-destroying social diseases.

Because the liberal mind reverts to a default state of retardation, it justifies the spread of these terminal diseases as virtuous and righteous behavior

So, as celebs, they would be kind of forced to "follow the trend". Common people would "identify" ("it matches tiktok and how those educated people talk like").

The above seems to have been actually a symptom (so part) of something bigger (a "pathocracy"):

Harrison KOEHLI - "Depathologizing America"

Once a sufficiently saturated ponerogenic group gains a sufficient hold on a political system, that pathological structure extends downwards throughout the entire system. It is not just in the national leadership. A pathological system needs agents at all levels of society, down to the local: schools, banks, small businesses, and the institutions governing them.

Hopefully, it has been stopped:

Harrison KOEHLI - "Depathologizing America"

It took decades to build the lie, and two weeks to break it, fatally. And now the liars—those whose power seemed so entrenched, such a fool’s errand to confront—just look effete and clownish. It’s like waking from a bad dream and realizing the monster you so feared was in fact a toy poodle in drag.

I believe that all the things we have been spectating during the last few years were symptoms of this. In the opinion of some, something literally attacked "capitalism". From my perspective, something attacked the White House and all of its belongings.

2)

There is a pretty harsh C session - a recent one that I cannot find back. It portrays a huge amount of "media" people being used as "vehicles". It is a recent one but I cannot find it back. It was stating a staggering amount of 50%?

 

[palestine]

Here is an additional quote from Lobaczewski (p.224-):

Approximately 6% of the population constitutes the active
structure of the new rulership, which carries its own peculiar
consciousness of its own goals. Twice as many people constitute
a second group: those who have managed to warp their
personalities to meet the demands of the new reality

Some of those celebrities are definitely not the "people pulling the strings" - so they would be the second group.

the genesis of their submissive attitude toward the regime, their greater susceptibility
to pathological effects, and their skittish opportunism

I believe that it kind of fit those celebrities; they seem to be located in-between.

The 6% group constitute the new nobility; the 12% group
gradually forms the new bourgeoisie, whose economic situation
is the most advantageous. Adapting to the new conditions,
not without conflicts of conscience, transforms this latter group
into both dodgers and, simultaneously, intermediaries between
the oppositional society and the active ponerological group,
whom they can talk to in the appropriate language. They play
such a crucial role within this system that both sides must take
them into account.

The whole is a bit technical but if seen as a theory / model it makes sense.

The idea is that there is something behind the curtains with different standards (than normal people):

saturating the phenomenon as a whole with its own quality of thought and experience

And so those celebrities may have been in touch with something and they mimick it.

 

[palestine]

But how they end up like in your videos is really puzzling

 

[Elisasheva]

Miley Cyrus appears to be in an altered state!

Miley Cyrus looks like her face froze. Probably too much botox and facial fat removal (or however it's called) procedure so popular now in hellawood. She's only 32 yo and looks 45. She was so pretty, I actually liked her recent era after all, but now she looks sick. Same with Ariana Grande. Those celebrities look like someone sucked all life from them.

Maybe not fully in topic, but I wanted to share some thoughts about movies that won Oscars this year:
Two of them about holocaust and WW2 again, of course - one which overall was really good, I liked the message and cinematography, and Kieran Culkin acted really well, but the fact that they didn't mention who actually built the concentration camps in Poland and the quote which went something like "people were dying inside, and outside those walls was a town where people led normal lives". Yeah sure, polish led normal lives under German occupation being randomly cought on the street and sent to Germany for work or to a camp, living under constant threat, poverty and humiliation. Great normal life. That movie inclined that poor Jews were dying while polish were having fun, and they probably built those camps themselves, who knows.

And ofc Anora, movie praising "sex workers", as the main star said while accepting the award.

But what was really beautiful is the animation that won - Flow. I recommend watching it. It's fully without any dialogue so the expressions and behavior of animals is what conveys all the emotions. It was made by one guy with the help of around 20 people only in Blender and all movements were animated by hand. I watched his presentation about the workflow. I admire this guy's dedication and it was fully deserved award.

 

[Evan]

Harrison KOEHLI - "Depathologizing America"


There is a pretty harsh C session - a recent one that I cannot find back. It portrays a huge amount of "media" people being used as "vehicles". It is a recent one but I cannot find it back. It was stating a staggering amount of 50%?

Could this be it (April 27 session):

Q: (L) Could we say that, for example, influencers on social media could be considered key personnel?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So, is there a percentage on that one?

A: 13

Q: (L) 13 percent.

(Andromeda) Just for social media.

(Niall) 13% of them are what are replaced. What does that mean?

(L) I guess they're replaced by underground or...

(Andromeda) Or what?

A: Walk-ins.

 

[palestine]

Could this be it (April 27 session):

Q: (L) Could we say that, for example, influencers on social media could be considered key personnel?

A: Yes

Q: (L) So, is there a percentage on that one?

A: 13

Q: (L) 13 percent.

(Andromeda) Just for social media.

(Niall) 13% of them are what are replaced. What does that mean?

(L) I guess they're replaced by underground or...

(Andromeda) Or what?

A: Walk-ins.

Yes this is it! Thank you Evan. I could not think of the term "walk-in" and find the session. A bit later in that session there is a general figure of 20%. I found it quite a high number.

This being said, I don't know if those celebrities in the videos have been through such phenomenon. It seems to me that Ariana Grande is just some exacerbated narcissist, because she has that attitude that very rich people have - "oooh My God!" "Yeaaaah- And how do you doooo??" - burt we could barely see a basic form of contempt. So hers could be some variation around "nicety" as a coating.

But the interaction is so bugging and improductive.