Jo Bugman
Jedi Master
I think he means using a meme as a response in this case, not memes in general.
Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?
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I don't see it as strange. I don't think any of those memes are posted in order to directly mock another forum member's opinion, and in so doing avoid conversation.
There has been a ~1.3 billion reduction in the global population in the past twelve years (quotes at the bottom). In that same time, at least here in the US, housing costs have roughly doubled to quadrupled. I do not think deporting all 40 million illegals, or whatever the number may be, is going to make a dent in the cost of a home.
I'd argue on the contrary that even if mass deportations collapsed the housing market in the PTB's favor, fairer elections would still weaken the PTB's ability to implement the great reset. Having fairer elections would increase the voice of the people who are quite in favor of solving the housing crisis.
I'd agree that debt entrapment is absolutely a key weapon being utilized by the PTB. My only addition to that is that the PTB have largely succeeded in that goal already. People with at least a small sense of economic freedom are in the declining minority. Even some semi-well off retirees who have their homes paid off are struggling to make ends meet. That is to say, the majority of people are already in the "own nothing" phase.
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You quote supporters of 86/47 attacking Trump. Trump took a bullet to the head from demonic minions, and is only still here because of divine intervention. Your free speech is more demonic assassination attempts. Your democracy of Obama, Biden, and Harris are riggers of elections and violators of campaign contributions, eg Act Blue. Your Trump Derangement Syndrome is in full bloom.
You forgot about my post last month, which you gave a thumbs up.
axj
The Living Force
The thing is that both of you seem to acknowledge that Trump has been doing both good and bad - so there is no reason for these kind of personal attacks or aggressive language.
Trump trying to limit free speech to protect Zionists is among the worse things he did. Threatening to investigate musicians who speak out against him may or may not be another attack on free speech.
Having said that, I also do not see why it is necessary to quote people who are obviously blind (Young, Swift, Springsteen) and even seem to call for an assassination of Trump. If you quote them, then you invite the interpretation that you agree with their views.
Trump trying to limit free speech to protect Zionists is among the worse things he did. Threatening to investigate musicians who speak out against him may or may not be another attack on free speech.
Having said that, I also do not see why it is necessary to quote people who are obviously blind (Young, Swift, Springsteen) and even seem to call for an assassination of Trump. If you quote them, then you invite the interpretation that you agree with their views.
I think it's really funny that this is what the internet has come down to, everyone arguing about three old guys arguing about another old guy lol. Springsteen, Young and Trump? arguing about Biden? It's kind of comedic.
Here's what I can see so far, Trump is not perfect, and probably surrounds himself with bad influences, supporting him blindly is a bad idea, hanging our hats on his every word as though he meant it, or he was able to execute them as he declares, is bound to lead to disappointment, at best, and some inability to see reality at worst.
Now, that is just as bad as taking every fall as a way to confirm our bias against him, same risks. So I would invite everyone to see him as a human being and see reality for what it is, he's well intentioned in some areas and really careless in another, he's also operating at a level that he's really hand tied and his charisma will only take him so far.
He will be successful in a lot of ways, but he will fail in some others, and his biggest blindspot is that he believes he's got no blindspots. IMO.
His proposal for Gaza, is practical from one point of view, but he betrays that he's not aware why someone wouldn't want to leave their homeland, or rather he can't equate Palestinians to Americans fighting an invasion. So maybe that's the interpretation of it, he doesn't get it, but he'd like it to stop, short sighted.
While I agree that the president shouldn't be bothered by what an old rock star says about him, there's also Putin and USAID for instance along with some other groups that sought to hide behind "freedom of speech" to cause havoc in the country, and Trump's claims about money from the DNC going to artists is true, does he look childish? yes.. but does he have a point? sort of.
Is it the best way to spend his time? I disagree, but he is Trump and he is going to Trump about the White House. The thing is that we shouldn't project values on to him that he may not have, we ought not fall in love with his figure.
Regarding the forum, I agree with discussion specially in disagreements, but with the aim of arriving at the truth, which begins with ourselves, is that our aim in posting something? or do we seek to offend and one up the other or have the last word? we remain non homogenous but we can have the same aim, truth, it should be bigger than our aim for victory.
It's not twitter or X, it's the forum. The focus is learning and discussion, not tweeting angrily at diverging points of view. That's why we joined in the first place, so keep that in mind.
my two cents.
Here's what I can see so far, Trump is not perfect, and probably surrounds himself with bad influences, supporting him blindly is a bad idea, hanging our hats on his every word as though he meant it, or he was able to execute them as he declares, is bound to lead to disappointment, at best, and some inability to see reality at worst.
Now, that is just as bad as taking every fall as a way to confirm our bias against him, same risks. So I would invite everyone to see him as a human being and see reality for what it is, he's well intentioned in some areas and really careless in another, he's also operating at a level that he's really hand tied and his charisma will only take him so far.
He will be successful in a lot of ways, but he will fail in some others, and his biggest blindspot is that he believes he's got no blindspots. IMO.
His proposal for Gaza, is practical from one point of view, but he betrays that he's not aware why someone wouldn't want to leave their homeland, or rather he can't equate Palestinians to Americans fighting an invasion. So maybe that's the interpretation of it, he doesn't get it, but he'd like it to stop, short sighted.
While I agree that the president shouldn't be bothered by what an old rock star says about him, there's also Putin and USAID for instance along with some other groups that sought to hide behind "freedom of speech" to cause havoc in the country, and Trump's claims about money from the DNC going to artists is true, does he look childish? yes.. but does he have a point? sort of.
Is it the best way to spend his time? I disagree, but he is Trump and he is going to Trump about the White House. The thing is that we shouldn't project values on to him that he may not have, we ought not fall in love with his figure.
Regarding the forum, I agree with discussion specially in disagreements, but with the aim of arriving at the truth, which begins with ourselves, is that our aim in posting something? or do we seek to offend and one up the other or have the last word? we remain non homogenous but we can have the same aim, truth, it should be bigger than our aim for victory.
It's not twitter or X, it's the forum. The focus is learning and discussion, not tweeting angrily at diverging points of view. That's why we joined in the first place, so keep that in mind.
my two cents.
Agreed. Although, in this paragraph... Putin?
And yet, US, UK, Australia and New Zealand are all reporting housing shortages. That will be due in part to the increase in costs of construction, inflation, increased costs of living, but it still ultimately points to supply being lower than demand.
Excellent post, Alejo.
Anyone who thinks that Trump is all good and he is never wrong is deluded. So are those who think he is all evil and everything he does is bad. I swear, sometimes I feel like I'm reading posts of a bunch of 12-year-olds trying to get in a jab here and there to upset each other.
Yeah , these people are blind. Neil Young, "Trump got rid of FEMA when we most needed it". Wow, totally oblivious. My first thought here was have these people been MKULTRAed? Possibly, the timing fits with the 60's music scene.
People are always questioning what is the purpose of Trump saying so and so. The idea here is that his tactics are to influence others in a certain direction but are not his desired goal stated in his original statement. As an example his statement of moving the Palestinians and creating a resort area. The speculation here is he wanted to "flame" other countries to step in and do something.
I understand the people of Palestine not wanting to leave their homeland for sure. But, everything is being demolished, will it continue to be so? Will they need to leave to save their lives, is there a place for them to go to reestablish? Its all so hideous.
There isn't a time limitation on acts of treason.
It's to soon to say what these people are doing. The USA is involved in a war for the country. How does one handle dealing with evil psychopaths that are out to destroy you? You certainly don't tell them what your plans are just so the public will know whats going on. Deception is necessary in war even lying to the public. There is a place for not taking everything at face value. For so many things now, its a waiting game to see how things unfold.
The deception may include appearing weak and ineffective. These are very unusual times for the US and I expect things will be handled in unusual ways. To assign the usual interpretation to appearances is to wander into being deceived in some cases. We're talking about "seeing the unseen here". The seriousness is between life and death.
It looks like a bogus picture was given to Trump and whoever did that needs questioning. I've seen indications of this in other instances. This Hopewell guy claims that white genocide in South Africa is imaginary .......! The proof was in the video not the photo. I think what Trump did here was awesome putting the president on the spot as he did.
The other clip of Trump and BB has no significance to me other then Trump playing the game and more of TDS in action.
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