Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Obviously, Iran is right now trying to regroup and consider options. They are, no doubt, taking very seriously the possibility that Israel is actually hoping that Iran will respond strongly, and that doing so will bring in more direct US involvement, which Iran would probably like to avoid.
As usual, psychos like to try to put their victims in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' position.
This is precisely what the US did with Russia vis a vis the Ukraine war.
As usual, psychos like to try to put their victims in a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' position.
This is precisely what the US did with Russia vis a vis the Ukraine war.
Along these lines, a lot of people fail to realise that the Axis of Resistance powers are basically standing up for all of normal humanity right now, despite any faults and flaws they may have.
Once the evil empire is finished dealing with enemies 'out there', what will they do? The only way they can get their pleasure will be to fully turn on all of us still living inside the empire. One struggles to imagine the cruel, sadistic, anti-human tyranny that would ensue under full, overt Jewish supremacist rule, but we don't have to look far for examples.
Maybe that's what it will take to wake people up.
It is interesting for sure. Well they've played their hand now - and anyone who can will learn from that.
Along those lines I've listened to The Durans take on it, and in short if the Iranian leadership can survive the turmoil/strikes - and not lash out in the way Israel wants, then they will win in the end. Just like Russia and Ukraine, and the sanctions that where 'meant to cripple and destroy Russia from within', we just have to wait and see if this attack destroys Iran or not.
If it doesn't, then the US will 'have to strike Iran' - then we may get oil prices through the roof and a demolition of the economy.
However, again, maybe Iran will pull it's punches like Russia has.
And like Russia, Iran may end up much stronger after this.
If the Iranian leadership hang on, then Israel and the US lose. In the long run at least.
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Indeed. And they may still try it even if they don't 'defeat the enemy out there'. In which case it will be a mix of Ukraine and being press ganged into military service without a choice/only getting food rations if you 'go to war', Palestine and the conditions there (caged lines, starvation, disease, bombing from above, Palantir AI surveillance and 'pre-emptive strikes' etc), and COVID with the authoritarians being in charge and snitching on anyone not following the rules - off to the gulags/front lines for you.
Then, after that, maybe people will have had enough suffering.
The thing about nukes is that in theory in modern warfare they provide a country with a deterrent against being overrun, invaded or destroyed through conventional means.
Thinking about the Iranian response (noting that Israel has vowed more continued attacks) - they share no common land border with Israel, hence it will have to be missiles, drones etc. They could opt for asymmetrical responses like closing the straits of Hormuz to oil shipments etc. But this would also hurt their allies as well. I guess there are intense backroom discussions right now between Russians, Chinese and Iranians.
Considering the internal situation in Iran of late - if the population feels that their government is not responding adequately to these attacks, then i think the situation will be ripe for an internal colour revolution considering how deeply Mossad has penetrated all levels of government and society in Iran. Then the million dollar question will be : what would the Supreme Leader of Iran do with their nukes, when they face the threat of being overthrown. We can only guess - but I dont think they will walk away like Assad did in Syria.
All the MSM reporting (including comments from Trump) is operating on the premise that Iran has no nukes. I keep thinking about the comment from the C's " you will be shocked" and how all of this is going to play out...
Another angle - lets hypothetically say that Iran is fully defeated and Israel is the new king of the world. Then you will have a situation where over a billion Muslims are "upset" with many residing outside the Middle East. Dugin is right - it is getting biblical and we could be deep inside the Apocalyptic scenario.
From TG channel EurasianChoice:
t.me
Eurasia & Multipolarity
Israel attacked nuclear facilities in Natanz, eliminated IRGC Commander Hossein Salami and Chief of the General Staff Mohammad Bagheri, using over 200 warplanes and hitting about 100 targets in eight provinces. The scale of the first strike, however, masks strategic restraint — Tel Aviv...
t.me
Israel doesn't have the resources for a prolonged campaign. So:
This.
Weontv
Jedi
So we know Iran already has more nukes than Isreal. This whole thing seems to be theater. What are the chances of both Isreal and Iran's leader's having the same bosses? One of the first things the Cassiopaeans told us was that there was already a one world government on this planet. I think a lot of these people think they have more power than they do, or are easily manipulated by people much smarter than them. There is also the case of them being parasitically infected and influenced by 4th D directly. If they are portals, this control is probably much easier as well, if not effortless.
Popcorn out anyways, lets see where it all goes.
axj
The Living Force
The thing is, high oil prices are actually very beneficial for Russia. So in a sense, the West may be shooting itself in the foot once again, making Russia stronger.
Killing Iranian generals and nuclear scientists and bombing the Natanz nuclear facility, which could legitimately cause a radiation leak, would be very, very extreme for merely engaging in political theater.
Things are ramping up here in California and not just in Los Angeles. I have friends and former co-workers who live in LA, San Francisco and the San Jose area. They claim it's far worse than leaders like Mayor Bass, Governor Newsom and the media are claiming.
The nationwide No Kings protest tomorrow is well-financed, well-coordinated and well-publicized. Funding, gas masks, shields, weaponry - thus far clubs and pallets of bricks staged at strategic locations - are being handed out like candy. Obviously the PTB are hoping for synchronized chaos and deadly events in the Middle East, Ukraine and the US. The latter of which can be organic or false flags. Probably a bit of both. Trump and his Administration will be blamed for the chaos no matter what is done to try and contain it.
I predict California and much of the USA is gonna be in political shambles by the end of the Summer of Love 2.O. Trump has been boxed into a corner domestically and worldwide. No amount of bravado or shouts of USA, USA, USA from his supporters can stop what's coming. Trump failed despite his so-called better intentions than say an overt puppet President. Summed up in one of Trump's favorite one word statements: Sad.
It's real and serious looking for sure, but on the flipside it may be a continuation of "just business, nothing personal".
I had a strong emotional reaction to it this morning, usually those reactions are wrong, and a sign that I'm being played.
Considering it more now, people have brought up some good points in this thread.
The attack shares the same fingerprints as the "Ukranian" attack on Russian bases last week. Massively overblown in the media and on social media, hysteria all round. Turns out it was only a handful of jets damaged.
The "MAGA" team, no matter how much they love Israel, doesn't want oil prices to start trending up again. And probably neither does the wider US establishment, considering that it would benefit Russia, a major oil supplier who does not have to use the strait of Hormuz.
Trump, as expected, is going in hard with the whole art of the deal thing, which never looks like it will work, but somehow often does.
Stocks are not falling off a cliff, VIX is calm, and oil is still trading well within it's 2 year range, indicating that big, smart money is not exactly panicking here.
Amidst all this is another data point that keeps coming to mind: The Yemeni's recent quiet sinking of multiple US warships. An Achilles' heel perhaps, and a sign that the balance of power is not so tilted as we think.
Anyway we'll see, maybe it's just business as usual. The bombs have to be dropped, the money printer has to keep printing, and as the Duran guys put it, the washing machine has to keep on spinning.
This kind of "art of the deal" won't end well, more and more people and within MAGA also, did not vote for it. they are also being manipulated.
Didn't Trump distrusted CNN?
Iran, if pressed against the wall, could just announce to the world that they have nukes, hundreds of them, and that they will only use them for self defense when there's no other choice just like anyone else with nukes. They would join the "mutually assured destruction" club and potentially prevent further US/Israeli attacks on its soil. On the other hand, it could lead to sanctions, and if Israel is bold enough and gets enough intel, a targeted attack on its nuclear facilities (although the idea is that Israel doesn't know where those are at the moment or else they would've done so already).
It would definitely be a "shock" to the world. Maybe they haven't done so because they think Israel is crazy enough to start WW3 over it, and so they're avoiding this by keeping them a secret until absolutely necessary. But my guess is that if faced with their own destruction, they will reveal having them as a last ditch deterrent. If the destruction is from an engineered color-revolution, then the nukes won't be much help, and may actually make things worse. A nuclear country marred by internal instability and at risk of being overthrown by radical factions would absolutely give US/Israel a pretext to do something drastic. Of course since Iran is already seen as "radical" by Israel/US then anything could happen if Iran reveals their cards.
So there's risks either way - a rock and a hard place, as usual. Their best bet is to keep calm but somehow keep their own population from losing faith and losing face. Just like in Russia - there's always a call for a counter-attack, but a lack of response doesn't have to result in internal turmoil if the population is united, informed, and has trust and faith in their leadership. In other words, a non-response doesn't have to be "weakness" or "cowardice", and if the population isn't made of radical uneducated egotists then they can understand that and stand together.
The actual damage of Israel's attack isn't anything that can't be easily repaired. People just need stand strong and be objective about the situation as much as possible and not make it worse than it is. And honestly, who knows, if Iran can hold out, Russia could give them more assistance once they're done with Ukraine, which hopefully won't be too long from now. And maybe Israel knows this and chose to do it before Russia wins and can focus on strengthening its alliances elsewhere.
Either way - this is always a test/lesson of how well the country treats its population. Are they properly informed, cared for - materially and spiritually? If so, then "color revolutions" would be pretty much impossible. So Iran's future partly depends on whether they have done right by their own people, just as Russia's future, or anywhere else. United we stand and all that! But united in knowledge/STO principles is much stronger than united by propaganda/fear/ponerization.
It would definitely be a "shock" to the world. Maybe they haven't done so because they think Israel is crazy enough to start WW3 over it, and so they're avoiding this by keeping them a secret until absolutely necessary. But my guess is that if faced with their own destruction, they will reveal having them as a last ditch deterrent. If the destruction is from an engineered color-revolution, then the nukes won't be much help, and may actually make things worse. A nuclear country marred by internal instability and at risk of being overthrown by radical factions would absolutely give US/Israel a pretext to do something drastic. Of course since Iran is already seen as "radical" by Israel/US then anything could happen if Iran reveals their cards.
So there's risks either way - a rock and a hard place, as usual. Their best bet is to keep calm but somehow keep their own population from losing faith and losing face. Just like in Russia - there's always a call for a counter-attack, but a lack of response doesn't have to result in internal turmoil if the population is united, informed, and has trust and faith in their leadership. In other words, a non-response doesn't have to be "weakness" or "cowardice", and if the population isn't made of radical uneducated egotists then they can understand that and stand together.
The actual damage of Israel's attack isn't anything that can't be easily repaired. People just need stand strong and be objective about the situation as much as possible and not make it worse than it is. And honestly, who knows, if Iran can hold out, Russia could give them more assistance once they're done with Ukraine, which hopefully won't be too long from now. And maybe Israel knows this and chose to do it before Russia wins and can focus on strengthening its alliances elsewhere.
Either way - this is always a test/lesson of how well the country treats its population. Are they properly informed, cared for - materially and spiritually? If so, then "color revolutions" would be pretty much impossible. So Iran's future partly depends on whether they have done right by their own people, just as Russia's future, or anywhere else. United we stand and all that! But united in knowledge/STO principles is much stronger than united by propaganda/fear/ponerization.
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