Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

Here it doesn’t sound like Trump wants to get in or has made a decision yet and saying “ending it as soon as you can would be a good thing“ and saying that the Iranians would like to come (asked for it) to the white house to negotiate but that it is hard for them to get out because they “can’t get out“ and “in one case bombs are falling all over the place“ for a guy who would like to come so badly. And saying that the US might need to fight but it would end very quickly [goes with my speculations that if he does something, he might think he can make a quick thing, more or less for show, instead of a war]:

 
I think what we are seeing is the psychos push for this war and regime change - while using means behind the scenes to pressure / blackmail / bribe / threaten anyone in the West to go along with / involve themselves in the fight. Trump doesn't look / sound like himself, I wonder what threats / pressure he's dealing with. I really hope there can be some last minute halt to this extremely dangerous escalation.
 
Sounds reasonable to me....

The Escape Flotilla: With No Possibility of Flying, Some Israelis Flee the War on Yachts​

"With the skies closed due to the fighting with Iran, hundreds of Israelis have joined groups offering an alternative escape route. None are willing to speak openly"

The marina in Herzliya has recently taken on the atmosphere of a makeshift terminal. Starting at seven in the morning, people begin to arrive – mostly alone, some in couples, a few with families – dragging trolleys and scanning the docks for the yacht s

‘Israeli Dunkirk’: Skipper ferries stranded citizens from Cyprus as flights remain grounded​


"Israelis are turning to the sea to leave the country or return home."

On Saturday, as tensions remained high, skipper Anna Sirotchenko sailed from Haifa toward Cyprus with seven passengers aboard a chartered yacht.

“There were a lot of people reaching out, trying to get back,” Sirotchenko said. “Couples who left for vacation and left children at home, someone who got a reserve call-up, people with babies. But I can only fit 10 people and have 10 life vests.”

Full articles below:

www.haaretz.com

The escape flotilla: with no possibility of flying, some Israelis flee the war on yachts

With the Skies Closed Due to the Fighting With Iran, Hundreds of Israelis Have Joined Groups Offering an Alternative Escape Route. None Are Willing to Speak Openly
www.haaretz.com www.haaretz.com

www.ynetnews.com

‘Israeli Dunkirk’: Skipper ferries stranded citizens from Cyprus as flights remain grounded

With Israeli airspace shut amid war, Anna Sirotchenko is ferrying passengers by sea to Cyprus; her 24-hour voyages offer a rare escape route as Israelis seek alternative ways to travel in and out of the country
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Nević Nenad said:
Erdogan is just a big mouth. He will do the same as he did for Palestinians. He did nothing.....
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I believe he's more or less sincere about his sympathy for the Palestinian cause but he and his government have been inconsistent in so many matters, Palestine being an example.

Iran is the head of Shias, while Erdogan longs for being the head of the much more crowded Sunni realm, like in the Ottoman times.

Erdogan's government have had some direct and supportive relations with Hamas. As far as I know, he also took some efforts in the Organization of Islamic Cooperation and in the Arab League to cooparate against Israel, but, I think, not only they lack the collective motivation to do this, but they are also very prejudiced against Erdogan, especially due to his Ottoman-like aspirations.

Although Erdogan's government tries to keep good diplomatic relations with Iran, they also don't hide their strong anti-Shia attitude, especially against Iran's widespread military and political activities in the Middle East.

Erdogan's government has been witnessing the ineffectualness of the Sunni Islamic world, including themselves, regarding Palestine, thus they don't strongly act against Iran's involvement in this matter but they have always been suspicious, to say the least, about Iran's true motivation. They are somewhat justified because not only Iran has clearly been following its pro-Shia political interests, but also it has always been ambiguous whether Iran would "truly" act against Israel. In the last days, Iran finally began to "hurt" Israel palpably and I believe that this was somewhat unexpected, but pleasing, for the Turkish government circles. In recent months, a growing amount of Erdogan supporters in Turkey have been laudatory of the Houthi military actions against Israel, and now, with the most recent Iranian attacks to the cities of Israel, they are cautiously joyous about this development.

By the way, since the technological capabilities of the Turkish military have been rapidly rising in recent years, the government's military self-confidence has also been rising. The Turkish government has already been in a type of clash with Israel in Syria. Also, Turkey's anti-PKK and anti-SDF military activities in Syria have been hated by Israel, which, therefore, now increases its cooperation with the Greek and the Southern Cyprian governments against Turkey in all manners possible. I have been pro-Assad but I suspect that Ahmed al-Sharaa (despite being the head of a terrorist organization under US-Israeli influence) has not been as cooperative as commanded by Israel, and I believe that the Turkish government's involvement in Syria is a primary factor in this.

The Netanyahu government truly hates Erdogan. Depending on the developments, the Turkish government can really be willing to be involved in a direct military action against Israel. Better late than never.
 
Just ran into this professor. Definitely recommended - he comes at it from a different angle and seems very clued up.

He said something interesting.... Putin may be setting a trap for Trump which is not only to get the US involved but to have them invade with boots on the ground.


He says that the only way America can be defeated as global tyrant in chief is to actually create the conditions for it to disintegrate internally and invading the territory of Iran with troops on the ground may lead to civil war in the US once the military takes too many losses. He says that unlike Iraq etc, Iran has had enough time to prepare for the inevitable invasion and that their whole military structure is decentralised hence why decapitation strikes haven't crippled it. He said the terrain and size of Iran makes it a whole different ball game invasion wise. He also said air strikes won't achieve regime change.

Btw, he said people call what America does "regime change" but what it really is, is it destroys the ability of a people to form a functional society. So what is aimed for in Iran is not "regime change" it is to make Iranian people literally unable to form a functional society i.e. that's if the objectives are achieved.

I am not sure I agree with what he said about China's position but I think he may be right. Basically he said China won't get involved directly and can absorb the loss of Iran.
 
It's now The Beast in action, and Trump now thinks it's God. He thinks his life was saved for a higher purpose, and in part he's correct, but he's also partly wrong. He's been co-opted and amalgamated by the Zionist wing of 4d STS. Their drive for a Greater Israel is now in a desperate state, and this frenzy of attacks also links to Iran's obtaining of sensitive Israeli files just a week ago. We've all known a bastard in the schoolyard, who treats other kids like shit. Eventually a tide turns and people do something about it. We need to do this now, as a collective. Share the objective info and plant some seeds. that feeling in your soul, when you "know" right from wrong? That's what we need.

We are MILES away from achieving our ultimate goals here. It's good that we can see, understand, and perceive the motions of the beast consortium, and the geopolitical crimes will be noted for our history. That is why what we do now is important. We need a critical mass in knowledge & being, and this requires all manners of objective info. Politics, religion, mysticism/occult, diet & health, psychology, criminology, demonology, UFOs, history etc. We're on the vanguard of knowledge & being, but on a basic and limited level. A long way to go guys, and what Trump does from here will confirm my old theory about him; he's bought and paid for by Israeli/Zionist cliques on both sides of the Atlantic. The fact that he's a reactive, spontaneous soul who responds to external intellectual stimulus, and he doesn't read books and articles, well it suggests a man incapable of doing the right things from here. We see the subtle and not so subtle machinations of 4d STS, but we don't yet have that critical mass that transforms our understandings in our culture. Pardon my language, it's fucking frustrating and annoying to have reached this point. I've been reading conspiratorial info since 1998, and I accept that people these days will not have the benefits of decades' worth of investigation, effort and research.

They'll have to play "catch up" on their own time. Ultimately we as a collective will be defined by what we value. That goes for us as a society and as individuals. Maybe it is there that we'll find those elusive karmic & simple understandings, and plot a route to a positive response to a dire future. I'm just glad that I'm able to read all of you on here, sharing vital info. And thanks, you old stagers, who have been here for decades too like me. I've learned loads over the years, and it's both sobering and exciting to think that we are now on the cusp of proper earth changes, and the attending social restrictions. That'll be The Beast in action. I'm still optimistic, but it's tempered by realism now; before I was a dreamer, but no more. How the masses respond to what US/UK/Israel does from here is what's gonna grind my gears now.
 

Pepe Escobar : Trump and the Cult of Death.​


Great interview only 30 min. long whit judge Napolitano. Give info on help to Iran from Russia after the First day attack by Israel and China, Pakistan offer of help as well as probable transfer of material.

 
What he says - recorded today:

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Full episode:
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This segment analyzes the ongoing missile exchanges between Israel and Iran, focusing on the performance of missile defense systems, particularly the Patriot system, and the limitations in their effectiveness.

False Targeting by Patriots:
U.S. Patriot air defenses may be misidentifying falling debris (like tumbling rocket motors) as incoming aircraft, causing them to launch unnecessarily or ineffectively. One example cited involved a falling rocket stage that killed a man—likely after the warhead had already detached and exploded elsewhere.

Poor Interception Visibility:
Visuals being analyzed show many warheads or missile components entering Israeli airspace without any sign of interception. The commentators note multiple incoming warheads, likely aimed at urban targets like Tel Aviv, with no effective counteraction.

Missile Accuracy & Effectiveness:
Iranian ballistic missiles have a 1 km accuracy, which is not precise enough to hit specific buildings but sufficient to cause general city damage. Israeli weapons, by contrast, are far more accurate due to advanced drone and cruise missile systems capable of optical target recognition.

Defensive Limits:
Israel's air defenses are reportedly ineffective against ballistic missiles but more capable against drones, which are slower and easier to intercept. Proper placement and density of air defense units are critical, especially against low-flying drones.

Strategic Implications:
The war may come down to who has the larger arsenal and who can endure more punishment, as neither side's missile defense seems capable of stopping the other entirely. Israeli civilians are beginning to question the previously held belief in near-total protection by their missile defenses, especially in light of one-ton Iranian warheads causing significant ground damage.

Upcoming Escalation:
There's intelligence suggesting a major escalation in the conflict could occur soon (between 2–3 p.m. local time).Reports also indicate that Israel’s interceptor missile stockpiles are running low, which may not matter much if drones are not the immediate threat. Simultaneously, reports are emerging (e.g., from Washington Post) about developments at Iranian facilities, suggesting potential shifts in the strategic balance. Overall, the conversation points to a growing recognition that missile defense—especially against long-range ballistic attacks—is less reliable than publicly believed, and both sides are bracing for a potentially significant escalation.
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Trump rejected Putin's proposal to mediate in the Middle East.

US President Donald Trump said Wednesday that Russian President Vladimir Putin must end the war in Ukraine before proposing to mediate in the conflict between Israel and Iran.

"In fact, he offered to help mediate, and I said, 'Do me a favor, mediate your own. Let's mediate with Russia first, okay?'" Trump told reporters at the White House. "I said, 'Vladimir, let's mediate with Russia first, you can take care of this (the war in the Middle East) later.'"

Iran's mission to the UN said "The only thing more despicable than his lies is his cowardly threat to 'eliminate' the Iranian supreme leader," referring to to Donald Trump's post yesterday on his Truth Social network, in which he said: "We know exactly where the so-called 'supreme leader' is hiding. He's an easy target, but he's safe there. We're not going to take him out (kill him!), at least not for now."

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Trump has also mentioned that he has been in constant contact with Putin. The last call was reportedly made yesterday, which may be why Lavrov said: "We caution the US against direct military assistance to Israel, even thinking about it."

According to Palestine Today Telegram, Putin stated: "There are options to guarantee Iran's interests in peaceful nuclear energy and alleviate Israel's concerns, and we have presented them to our partners."

This differs greatly from what Trump has said about the conflict; he wants Iran's absolute surrender.

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Joe said:
After that failed assassination, Trump appears to have had something of a conversion. He openly talked about someone protecting him that day, and there were a LOT of references to "god" saving him for some special purpose. This was echoed most recently by US Ambass. to Israel Huckabee.

So it is possible that Trump's 'amazing conversion' is what's behind his apparent changed behavior, with some claiming an almost messianic tone to his attitude?
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I think that at least to a great extent yes. One thing is clear, that those around him have learned to play him like a fiddle. When I read Huckabee's post, it was transparent to me that he was stroking Trump's ego with messianic undertones to convince him to go bomb Iran. Trump reposted that, so obviously he enjoys that. Bibi did something similar when he said in an interview that he was the 'junior partner' in regards to the US/Trump. Trump can't see through this manipulation because he's a narcissist, which is unfortunate for the world.

Notice also that the initial official line of the US as articulated by Marco Rubio was that the US had had nothing to do with the Israeli attack. But Trump simply couldn't resist the temptation of owning the thing (thus the tone of his tweets) because he needs to be center stage - even if it's a bad thing! It's almost comical. Something big happens in the world and Trump needs to say 'I did that!'.
 
Nević Nenad said:
We have too much expectations from Russia, which Russia delivered only partially and very indirectly so far. And that more as a consequence of Russia's actions than direct actions. Putin is saviour of Russia, not the whole world. If the world gets saved as a consequence, even the better.
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Pierre said in one of the sessions (from 5D, after his death) to Laura:
- No one can save another.
Can Russia (Putin) save the whole world? Unlikely. I'm not even sure that Russia can save itself. Does this modern world need saving at all? It is so rotten and vicious that I am already starting to feel sick from the daily news about wars and murders. Should everyone save only themselves or only their loved ones?
Is it possible to save, for example, Serbia, which supplies shells (via the Czech Republic) to Ukraine and actually works for NATO? At the same time, the leader of Serbia Vucic comes to Moscow on May 9 to see Putin and shakes his hand. Bro!
The same applies to Iran, whose leadership includes many traitors and agents of the West. Why should Putin save them? Corrupt, vicious bearded men. And this guy Khamenei, who in my opinion is the biggest hypocrite and envious person. This country seems to be rotting from the inside, like all the others on our planet. Mostly ordinary people suffer and die.

Nević Nenad said:
There is question did Iran really have SU-35 airplanes, because that batch, at first made for Egypt, was rerouted to Algier. Iran didn't had cash, Algier did. Algier's SU-35 were photographed, Iran's not. Even if Iran have the SU-35 planes, its no more than 6 specimen
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Iran is a very resource-rich country with a poor population. According to various estimates, they have from 30 to 50 Su-35s. Even if they had 0 planes, neither Israel nor the US are capable of defeating such a huge mountainous country militarily, by bombing from the air. The US could not defeat Yemen and Afghanistan, which are much weaker militarily.
Probably, their (Iran's) stockpiles of "regular" missiles and drones number in the thousands. Naturally, we will not see any photos. The S's seem to have said that they have 140 nuclear warheads. This means that they are skillfully hiding everything. And they have much more weapons than they have used against Israel to date. The only way for the US and Israel to "defeat" Iran is to blow up the country from within, a popular revolt or revolution. That is why Trump and the Zionists are constantly shaking the air in social networks, trying to stir up ordinary Iranians. But we see that the US and Israel themselves are already on the verge of a split - they need a victory "here and now" over Iran. Iran will win any long war of "attrition" and an exchange of mutual blows. Of course, this will be a "Pyrrhic victory" with a large number of victims.
 
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