Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

RedFox said:
Joe pointed out some time ago that the US etc relies on the illusion of projected power around the world.
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Indeed. Since the US is unlikely to win a full-scale long war against Iran, what would a "pretend victory" against Iran look like?

Regime change from within was obviously Plan A, but Iranians seem to be actually uniting instead of toppling their government.

Taking out the Ayatollah seems to be Plan B and it also seems unlikely to succeed. If Israel has more 'assets' in the Iranian leadership, they would have probably used them to kill the Ayatollah by now. Some think that the US will try to kill him with their bunker buster bombs - if that works, it could be a "pretend victory", but seems unlikely to happen either.

Maybe trying to use separatist groups within Iran is the main plan. There are Azeris (12 million, more than in Azerbaijan), Kurds, Baluchistanis, etc. A Kurdish separatist group called for attacks against government targets shortly after the Israeli attack. How successful these separatists can be is very unclear.

Maybe simply destroying Iran's oil economy and other infrastructure (especially nuclear power) could be sold as a "pretend victory" by the US after a short and intensive bombing campaign. Though that depends on the US military itself not suffering heavy losses.
 
Sky news in UK are reporting that the Israeli foreign minister has stated Iran have tried to carry out an attack on Israeli citizens in Cyprus. They say the terror attack was thwarted.
Suppose this is the start of the false flag events to add fuel to the fire. Not surprising is it.
 
Ramping up - see details and Xs in article:

B-2 stealth bombers just left Whiteman AFB with 8 tankers in tow. Headed west. Over the ocean. Guam or Diego Garcia next.
There are no press briefings on this movement. No statements. Just exhaust trails and open air corridors. The B-2 was designed for one job — delivering hard payloads through dense air defenses. Its radar signature is measured in inches. Its range, with midair refueling, wraps the globe. Two B-2s in the air with tanker support means preparation for direct engagement if policy allows it.
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And the 2026 Nobel Peace Prize goes to . . .
 

Huckabee says US has begun assisted departed flights for American citizens in Israel​


"US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee says that the State Department has started assisting departure flights from Israel amid its conflict with Iran."

"He encourages US citizens and lawful permanent residents in Israel and the West Bank, who want government assistance to department, to complete a form on the department’s website."

 
Following along here, not that knowledgeable but thankful to those who are thoughtfully adding from perspectives.

Does anyone else get the thought dropping in about possible assassination of Bibi? It just dropped in and after so much about assasinating Iran leadership, I am sure, like with Hitler, there must be some people thinking about removing him. It seems almost heretical to write this, somehow he is not on a list like Trump and Ayatollah, who regularly are in a line of fire.

Just Netanyahu seems untouchable. Maybe it is because of the power of his handlers?
 
JEEP said:
Ramping up - see details and Xs in article:

B-2 stealth bombers just left Whiteman AFB with 8 tankers in tow. Headed west. Over the ocean. Guam or Diego Garcia next.
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Ok, let's get real here. Over 50 air refueling tankers have moved to the ME, multiple squadrons of jets adding to those already present in US ME bases. Three Aircraft carrier strike groups. This isn't just a "show of force". Add in all the Americans being evacuated and Israelis getting out in ships.

The wave function has collapsed IMO, they ARE going to do something fairly big, and I think the 2 weeks thing is just a cover to get all that in place. Remember the Iraq invasion? We were told for months that they weren't going to attack Iraq, while doing pretty much the same thing they are doing now.

Gird your loins.
 
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I think we're living in epic moments, a la Herodotus. We're all, in a way, young Herodotus. That's good. That's what Herodotus did: he collected stories that others told, he listened, he took notes. Great. And then, like Herodotus, he shows us heroes, because throughout history there have been heroes, valiant people, and in this epic that life has thrown us into, we see these heroes, and I think that Seyed Mohammad Marandi is one of them.

He's the voice of Iran, and he's very beloved. And his life is in danger. He's clear in his words. I think he's a university professor, and he must be a very good professor. In this interview, he's very clear when talking about Gaza, Iran, the monstrous Israeli regime, the hypocrisy of the West, and not only the hypocrisy, but the West's participation in the genocide. He is really a hero.



A brief aside about Herodotus. I discovered this first historian in the history of humanity by reading Ryszard Kapuściński's magnificent book, “Travels with Herodotus.” Kapuscinski also wrote a book on Iran, “Shah of Shahs,” about the downfall of the Shah.
 
Israel says that they do not want to wait two weeks and they will attack the Fordow nuclear site, and that in the same call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn’t be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war

It's curious that they're taking into account today, since the call was on the same day Trump announced the Thursday. News published today for the masses, so it will no be such a surprised on what my happen in a short time, at least before the two weeks or earlier? for what is happening behind the scenes, it won't be long.
 
Joe said:
Ok, let's get real here. Over 50 air refueling tankers have moved to the ME, multiple squadrons of jets adding to those already present in US ME bases. Three Aircraft carrier strike groups. This isn't just a "show of force". Add in all the Americans being evacuated and Israelis getting out in ships.

The wave function has collapsed IMO, they ARE going to do something fairly big, and I think the 2 weeks thing is just a cover to get all that in place. Remember the Iraq invasion? We were told for months that they weren't going to attack Iraq, while doing pretty much the same thing they are doing now.

Gird your loins.
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The following is doing the rounds on twitter:

Israel said pressing for swift action on Iran’s Fordo nuclear site, may act without US​

Israeli officials believe US will agree to join the fray, given Trump’s aggressive rhetoric toward Iran and Tehran’s refusal to accept ceasefire conditions demanded by US, Europe​

By Reuters and ToI Staff22 June 2025, 1:09 am

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A person in Washington familiar with the matter said Israel has communicated to the US administration that it believes Trump’s window of up to two weeks is too long and that more urgent action is needed. The person did not say whether the Israelis made that point during the high-level call.

During the call, Vice President JD Vance pushed back, saying the United States shouldn’t be directly involved and suggesting that the Israelis were going to drag the country into war, said the sources. US Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also participated in the call, said a security source. Reuters could not determine who else took part in the call.

The prospect of a US strike against Iran has exposed divisions in the coalition of supporters that brought Trump to power, with some prominent members of his base urging him not to get the country involved in a new Middle East war.

Vance has frequently criticized past US involvement in conflicts, including Iraq and Afghanistan, but has lately defended Trump against Republican critics who urge the administration to stay out of the Iran conflict.

Other Republicans, including Trump ally Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, have said they hope Trump will help Israel finish destroying Iran’s nuclear program.

Trump, who campaigned on a promise to keep the US out of what he called “stupid” foreign wars, has himself seemed conflicted at times about whether to join the Israeli attack on Iran or focus on diplomatic efforts to end Tehran’s nuclear program. But his rhetoric in recent days has become increasingly aggressive toward Iran.
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I suspect it's either a diversion and/or a way to get Vance in line with what's about to happen. My gut says tonight or tomorrow.
 
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