Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel
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Not just sez that. With that information, many things make sense, and others not so much. Anyways, we will see.
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After you read it, this will make sense: "The ultimate question is where things go from here, and that all depends on what Iran chooses to do."
Trump talking about regime change in that tweet sounds to me like he is 'art of the dealing' again - in his mind. In reality, half the world reads it as confirmation that this was the plan all along, and Trump's inner circle, the neocons and zionists, really do mean it. That's what they've wanted for decades. So again, it seems to me like he is sleepwalking into disaster, because I don't se how he'll be able to *not* go all in with the pressure around him and keep his job (assuming that he personally would rather not). Do we really think that Israel would just sit back and accept that the show is over because Trump just wanted a one-off show of force? After all, the Israelis bombed Iran without warning obviously calculating that the US would be forced to finish the job for them. Now they'll seek a way to make it happen if necessary.Took his time, it was already too obvious.
Certainly not, that’s not even naive, is dangerous.
I think what has just happened has the potential to turn out to be one of the bigger miscalculations of the the empire of lies. I expect Iran to use that opportunity smartly and that what happened plays into the hands of countries more aligned with a multipolar world in general.
Kinda interesting, because:
1. The US gets to pretend it's still all-powerful
2. Trump gets the Neocons off his back (assuming he hasn't become one himself)
3. Israel can't scream "nuclear weapons in Iran!" anymore
4. Iran can't actually use one of their nukes because then the world knows they weren't destroyed and it was all a ruse
From a certain angle, it all makes "sense". But it's kind of simplistic in the sense that psychos won't be happy, they'll still push for regime change (even if the 'war' ends and the change happens via covert means), and for some reason I don't believe for a second that "it's all over" this time around.
IOW, to Trump it may seem brilliant, but it doesn't take into account everything we know is going on with earth changes, reality shifts, hyperdimensional mojo, etc.
I just keep repeating to myself what the C's said: it'll get worse before it gets better - which means it WILL get better. Then I start humming the Smurfs theme song.
Interesting to note that Clif High in his latest podcast Welcome to The Time Zone indicates his web bot data suggests that the Israel-Iran conflict will fizzle out in July. Thought-provoking though Clif may be, his predictions are more miss than hit, but he could be onto something here as the US strikes on Iran could be face-savers for all concerned, though one hopes that the Israeli psychopaths get their just desserts somewhere down the line, somehow. Personally, I can't help thinking this is just the end of round 1, which has been won by Iran.
Alreadyin4thDensity Love
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It seems that Israel is bombing Iran much more and much more frequently than Iran bombs Israelis, one has to wonder if it will only entice Israelis to continue, especially after US bombing.
Iran probably won't attempt to close the straits since China has a lot of interests in keeping that door open and they probably do not want to spoil relations with Saudis after normalization.
Iran probably won't attempt to close the straits since China has a lot of interests in keeping that door open and they probably do not want to spoil relations with Saudis after normalization.
Alreadyin4thDensity Love
Jedi Master
But Iran and all those analysts like Scott Ritter and his ilk keep screaming that there was not real damage or whatever and that they evacuated enriched uranium loooong ago. It can provide for excuse in the future for another wave of strikes if Isreal-US axis wants it, they can say they found new nuclear power plant somewhere in the the vast mountain ranges of Iran, and again kabom,kabom.
I do not not understand number 4, please explain.
Anyway, Iran would probably never use nuclear bombs first unless they are attacked themselves with the same.
So Trump blazed into the China shop, stumbled, smashed some pieces, regained composure, only to slip on a banana, and by accident fell on a 5D chess board, cursed, did a signature Trump hand gesture, by which he unconsciously moved a key figure to just the right place so that it all pans out
I'm only half joking, because the silver lining in all of this is that previous US presidents were pretty much groomed by the Deep State to become the next puppets. Trump is many things, but not that. Which is admittedly an absurdly low bar. In his craziness, grandeur and erraticness, you'll never know, and there's always a chance that while many of his actions are disastrous, some of his actions may actually lead to good outcomes, or in some way go against those who want to turn him into a pure puppet, if only by accident. Again, absurdly low bar, but here we are.
Absolutely. They are cunning but also desperate and blind to other possibilities. They see this as an opportunity which may never come their way again, and in some sense they are probably right. The trajectory that Iran was on would have led to it becoming more developed, more integrated into the multipolar system and therefore more of an obstacle to Israeli and US interests. There are massive airstrikes on Tehran this morning, regime change is still the plan.
Some of the targets:
– Iranian State TV buildings
– Evin Prison and another prison in Karaj
– Energy Ministry building
– Shaheed Beheshti University
– Police / Basij district offices
Just listened to yesterday's interview with coronel Mcgreggor explaining why the past and ongoing USA wars always lead to the same dead end issue. More in depth explanations about how Iran/Israel conflict is going to unfold based on nowadays multiple complexities and interests hiding behind the scene.
As an aside, Mcgregor's humoristic picturing of Trump's guts made me smiled: "He likes to be a little bit pregnant, he reeeally don't want to bring the child to term" (talking about stopping shipments of weapons to Israel).
As an aside, Mcgregor's humoristic picturing of Trump's guts made me smiled: "He likes to be a little bit pregnant, he reeeally don't want to bring the child to term" (talking about stopping shipments of weapons to Israel).
The choice of these targets (they are essentially civilian, not military) only shows that Israel is incapable of winning a war against Iran militarily. The Zionists' only hope is to bet on an internal rebellion or revolution in Iran. But this is wishful thinking. And this bet on a blitzkrieg has essentially failed.
Besides, chaos and violence, shooting at civilian targets - this is a game that can be played by two. Iran has the right to do (and does) the same, shelling Israel. Iran still has many missiles in reserve. Then there is Pakistan, which will gladly give Iran more missiles to target Israel. There is also Yemen, which as a proxy can shell not only Israel, but also US or British ships/bases.
And we also saw a pathetic attempt from the US, which brought a whole squadron of B-2s halfway around the world to make a few holes in a mountain. Is this a hegemon? It is hard to imagine a more stupid and pathetic military operation from the US.
IMO the analysis of McGregor and Scott Ritter tend to often be quite off the mark and especially in Ritters case infused by excessive emotional thinking. And that quality doesn’t seem to have improved over time. Or in other words: They don’t seem to have learned much from previous wrong analysis.
Jo Bugman
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I watched the reporter on Fox News at 7am that morning of the bombing say that multiple b2s had left their airbases. If all of America can know about it hours before it happens because this was announced on live TV, imagine what Iran knew.
That's why I'm leaning towards the 5D chess gimmick of Trump trying to please every warpig/neocon/zionist in one move.
I would not be surprised if it can be confirmed that Iran did not sustain much damage from the strikes, or if the facilities were already abandoned/evacuated. However, I'm certain the likes of Mossad would already know if the facilities were even active, so why would they be grateful for America helping with a huge nothingburger? Unless it's like Scottie posted above, and this was an attempt at 5D chess from the Trump administration to escape a trap for war with Iran set by neocons and zionists.
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