Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

[SummerLite]

Remains to be seen if Camacho Trump even has any say on the matter.

Exactly, like other things as well.

 

[SummerLite]

Hmmm... you didn't answer the question... instead you got angry with me daring to ask the question

LOL! I'm not angry, you just proved my point. See my post above and add any number of things to it besides Ukraine. This anti-Trump, anti-American fixation is the over all theme here. There is no distinction between the evil deep state, Trump and the American people, its all one, big dark lump mushed together.

 

[SOTTREADER]

LOL! I'm not angry, you just proved my point. See my post above and add any number of things to it besides Ukraine. This anti-Trump, anti-American fixation is the over all theme here. There is no distinction between the evil deep state, Trump and the American people, its all one, big dark lump mushed together.

Hmmm - I can see why you said "Anti Trump" basically because he's being challenged to release the list and he's now saying"what list" and "Epstein is a made up story" . And clearly you don't like Trump being challenged which I guess is your prerogative - everyone is entitled to their views!

But the "Anti American" accusation where did that come from? If I'm not mistaken, America is made up of hundreds of millions of people, what sort of darkness do you think we possess to be anti-all these people, including the hundreds of Americans who are members of this forum . This is quite the accusation, one that I think you should justify if you truly believe what you said !!

In all these, you still haven't said why you think Trump is sending weapons to Ukraine and saying Moscow should be bombed.

Trump told Putin he would ‘bomb the s--- out of Moscow’ in leaked audio

President told private gathering of fundraisers that Putin ‘believed me 100 per cent’

www.telegraph.co.uk

Anyways no need to answer. Truth be told, the only reason I made that post was because I thought you'd essentially blow up in my face, especially when I contrasted him to Putin, because you are too wound up emotionally in the whole Trump aura thing. Anyways, I'll see myself out of this thread - I'm no where near as invested in Trump, my interest was only to the extent he was going to do what he said he'd do during his campaign trail - no more wars, release the Epstein list, peace in Ukraine, drain the swamp etc.

 

[Revolucionar]

There is no distinction between the evil deep state, Trump and the American people, its all one, big dark lump mushed together.

When it comes to foreign policy, there appears to be no distinction. That's what most of us here, who are not from the exceptional nation, are concerned with.

Trump's handling of Epstein is quite clearly a result of foreign policy and national security considerations, IMO.
I'm from Europe, and Trump's policy currently is just a more aggressive and in-the-open continuation of previous US policy, which is to keep Europe a vassal of the US. And he's doing the same across the globe.

He's also just acting like a buffoon and I don't like to be associated with these sorts of people.

I've said this many times before, I think Trump is just a front for a different faction of the deep state, whatever he may think of himself. Probably just a useful idiot which isn't hard to believe considering how he is.

 

[SummerLite]

Hmmm - I can see why you said "Anti Trump" basically because he's being challenged to release the list and he's now saying"what list" and "Epstein is a made up story" . And clearly you don't like Trump being challenged which I guess is your prerogative - everyone is entitled to their views!

But the "Anti American" accusation where did that come from? If I'm not mistaken, America is made up of hundreds of millions of people, what sort of darkness do you think we possess to be anti-all these people, including the hundreds of Americans who are members of this forum . This is quite the accusation, one that I think you should justify if you truly believe what you said !!

In all these, you still haven't said why you think Trump is sending weapons to Ukraine and saying Moscow should be bombed.

Trump told Putin he would ‘bomb the s--- out of Moscow’ in leaked audio

President told private gathering of fundraisers that Putin ‘believed me 100 per cent’

www.telegraph.co.uk

Anyways no need to answer. Truth be told, the only reason I made that post was because I thought you'd essentially blow up in my face, especially when I contrasted him to Putin, because you are too wound up emotionally in the whole Trump aura thing. Anyways, I'll see myself out of this thread - I'm no where near as invested in Trump, my interest was only to the extent he was going to do what he said he'd do during his campaign trail - no more wars, release the Epstein list, peace in Ukraine, drain the swamp etc.

See it how you choose. This thread has a history. I'm glad to hear you aren't anti-American. You set a clever trap for me and think I fell into it apparently. Ok, whatever.

 

[FM258]

Makes one think Putin must be super human. He's always so composed and measured, even under a mountain of pressure.

Anyways, what's your take for why Trump is resuming sending weapons to Ukraine?

Putin enjoys the lack of scrutiny of a free press that dictators get. If he had a rabid press corp asking hard questions every day, accompanied by constant polling, his blood pressure would surely continue to rise.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Putin enjoys the lack of scrutiny of a free press that dictators get. If he had a rabid press corp asking hard questions every day, accompanied by constant polling, his blood pressure would surely continue to rise.

You said "free press" and you said "dictator" neither of which are true

But, but, to stop this from devolving to a needless argument/debate, I get what you are saying. The press in America are constantly on Trump's case, whilst Putin doesn't face the same challenges from the press in Russia. I agree !

Russia is a completely different country and culture, so the press there wouldn't operate like they do in the US, even under a different president, assuming it doesn't get colour revolutioned.

 

[SOTTREADER]

To add something, Putin faces challenges that you pray no American president ever faces - the survival / existence of his country. I think we'd all agree, that the goal is to break Russia to one thousand pieces and bleed it dry of all its resources. Putin, has to navigate this, somehow, without it resulting in nuclear armageddon for all. So let's not downplay the challenges faced by Putin.

I think we should all be thankful that the responsibility has fallen to someone so competent as otherwise we'd all be living in a post-nuclear hellscape, at least those of us who would be unlucky enough to survive.

 

[FM258]

When it comes to foreign policy, there appears to be no distinction. That's what most of us here, who are not from the exceptional nation, are concerned with.

Trump's handling of Epstein is quite clearly a result of foreign policy and national security considerations, IMO.
I'm from Europe, and Trump's policy currently is just a more aggressive and in-the-open continuation of previous US policy, which is to keep Europe a vassal of the US. And he's doing the same across the globe.

He's also just acting like a buffoon and I don't like to be associated with these sorts of people.

I've said this many times before, I think Trump is just a front for a different faction of the deep state, whatever he may think of himself. Probably just a useful idiot which isn't hard to believe considering how he is.

Seems like everyone wants instant results, when is not possible for any number of reasons. Trump has many flaws, none of his supporters are blind to them. We all wish he was more diplomatic, only when you put yourself in his shoes, and relive 10 years of constant lies, indictments, false accusations can you begin to understand what is driving him.

Look at us here on the forum, a mild criticism or negative reply gets us all defensive and argumentative. None of us could go through what he has, and he keeps moving the ball forward. The American people, well a majority anyway support him and accept his flaws. Its a good thing for him, or the democrats would have him rotting in a jail cell right now.

If anyone can take down the DS, or even dent it, its this man. His personality is a major turn off for many people, and I understand that. What I don't understand is people's inability to look past that and focus on policies and platforms. At the end of the day, thats all that matters.

We should be cheering him on, because when and if he fails, we will also fail. I think he has a plan, and it needs time to develop, its just 6 months in, a lot has happened so far....but people want arrests, indictments, jail sentences...I want them also, and not just for low hanging fruit, but the big names too who were behind the smear campaigns and weaponization of the government against a man, his family, and anyone in his orbit.

I've been annoyed at the handling of the Epstein case as well, but have to accept nothing that happens is on my expected timeline, and the best I can do is watch and wait.

 

[FM258]

Makes one think Putin must be super human. He's always so composed and measured, even under a mountain of pressure.

Anyways, what's your take for why Trump is resuming sending weapons to Ukraine?

IMO Trump is responding to Putin in a way that will lead to a quicker resolution. My thoughts are Trump and Putin are digging their feet in. Ukraine is a cesspool of corruption, there are no free elections, no opposition party and no free press...yet there we are spending 100s of Billions to defend it....can someone tell me why??

I will answer it myself. Because its a giant laundering operation. Lets do an audit where all that money went.

 

[Revolucionar]

I think he has a plan, and it needs time to develop, its just 6 months in, a lot has happened so far....but people want arrests, indictments, jail sentences...I want them also, and not just for low hanging fruit, but the big names too who were behind the smear campaigns and weaponization of the government against a man, his family, and anyone in his orbit.

This here is the problem in a nutshell. You Americans live in a bubble and are only concerned with your internal matters while your government goes around the world causing chaos and misery on your behalf.

I don't see Trump making any positive moves on that front. Maybe just a slight shift in direction under the influence of the deep state. I would say that the US is only becoming more belligerent with Trump at the "helm". Maybe he is hamstrung by the deep state and is trying to fight it, but as far as Trump's foreign policy promises from his campaign go, none of it seems to be going in that direction so far.
I still think he's the best America had to offer at this moment, but it's too little, too late.

I hope he changes course, but I'm not holding out hope for that since Trump's base itself is only concerned with internal matters and not even ones that would make any real difference. Even if you MAGA folk got everything you wanted, it wouldn't change a thing about how the US operates as a global empire under the rule of Zionists and other criminals that are never under threat of being exposed and deposed.

Still, it would be nice to see Obama et al behind bars.

 

[SOTTREADER]

We should be cheering him on, because when and if he fails, we will also fail.

This statement can't be true - not saying this in a negative way. For one, Trump WILL fail, at least in the sense of draining the swamp or overseeing some sort of return to utopia (whatever that is).

Trump's failure though would not mean armageddon (or whatever horrendous image people have in their imagination). Trump will leave a legacy, there will be other leaders, people as well can and do stick up for themselves etc. So it's not that Trump fails and we are all microchipped the next day !

In any case, the battle here is far grander, its beyond countries, borders or even lifetimes. It's nothing short of cosmic if you think 3 things are true a) we have souls b) the purpose is to evolve our souls and c) the realm border crossing is approaching.

The whole thing about everything coming down to just ONE man is so Hollywood.

 

[FM258]

To add something, Putin faces challenges that you pray no American president ever faces - the survival / existence of his country. I think we'd all agree, that the goal is to break Russia to one thousand pieces and bleed it dry of all its resources. Putin, has to navigate this, somehow, without it resulting in nuclear armageddon for all. So let's not downplay the challenges faced by Putin.

I think we should all be thankful that the responsibility has fallen to someone so competent as otherwise we'd all be living in a post-nuclear hellscape, at least those of us who would be unlucky enough to survive.

I respectfully disagree. No sane person wants to break Russia and take its resources. And that is certainly not the position of conservatives here. In fact, we want to have Russia as an ally, Trump wanted that, and was attacked by the left here as being a traitor. They would not allow it. I have a lot of respect for Putin. Every interview I have even seen him give is well spoken and logical.

 

[FM258]

This here is the problem in a nutshell. You Americans live in a bubble and are only concerned with your internal matters while your government goes around the world causing chaos and misery on your behalf.

I don't see Trump making any positive moves on that front. Maybe just a slight shift in direction under the influence of the deep state. I would say that the US is only becoming more belligerent with Trump at the "helm". Maybe he is hamstrung by the deep state and is trying to fight it, but as far as Trump's foreign policy promises from his campaign go, none of it seems to be going in that direction so far.
I still think he's the best America had to offer at this moment, but it's too little, too late.

I hope he changes course, but I'm not holding out hope for that since Trump's base itself is only concerned with internal matters and not even ones that would make any real difference. Even if you MAGA folk got everything you wanted, it wouldn't change a thing about how the US operates as a global empire under the rule of Zionists and other criminals that are never under threat of being exposed and deposed.

Still, it would be nice to see Obama et al behind bars.

I believe the leader of a country has a responsibility to the citizens of that country. Putin, Xi, Netanyahoo etc. I agree we stick our nose in everyone's business, then throw money at them so we can dominate...empires always fall. Maybe that is whats happening now. The destruction of US. I think its too early to have a firm opinion on DT, things are starting to happen.

 

[FM258]

This statement can't be true - not saying this in a negative way. For one, Trump WILL fail, at least in the sense of draining the swamp or overseeing some sort of return to utopia (whatever that is).

Trump's failure though would not mean armageddon (or whatever horrendous image people have in their imagination). Trump will leave a legacy, there will be other leaders, people as well can and do stick up for themselves etc. So it's not that Trump fails and we are all microchipped the next day !

In any case, the battle here is far grander, its beyond countries, borders or even lifetimes. It's nothing short of cosmic if you think 3 things are true a) we have souls b) the purpose is to evolve our souls and c) the realm border crossing is approaching.

The whole thing about everything coming down to just ONE man is so Hollywood.

I agree with most of this. Yes, hes just one man, but he is the first outsider to get the job, and hes breaking a lot of their silverware. Others may pick up the torch, that remains to be seen...but he was the genesis of this movement. No, we wont be chipped the next day, that might take another 10 years, but thats what the elite want.