Session 28 June 2025
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I read some papers on the subject, and found this:
A recent bottleneck of Y chromosome diversity coincides with a global change in culture - PMC
It is commonly thought that human genetic diversity in non-African populations was shaped primarily by an out-of-Africa dispersal 50–100 thousand yr ago (kya). Here, we present a study of 456 geographically diverse high-coverage Y chromosome ...pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
From the abstract:
"...we infer a second strong bottleneck in Y-chromosome lineages dating to the last 10 ky. We hypothesize that this bottleneck is caused by cultural changes affecting variance of reproductive success among males...."
The technical detail is above my paygrade, but it appears - to my layperson's eye - to be consistent with the revised position Michael B-C adopted towards the end of his Gobekli Tepe thread.
Ok, I've misunderstood. It could explain a bottleneck of Y-chromosome diversity, yes. A reduction in the number of males reproducing rather than the male population itself.
pinkfreud
Jedi Master
I find Linda Gordon's quote very interesting. One of the most interesting books of the 20th century was Brave New World by English author Aldous Huxley, who came from a very establishment family - his Victorian ancestors had, for example, financially backed Charles Darwin the father of modern evolution theory. The name of his book is taken from a quote from Shakespeare's play The Tempest, which, as I have just posted on the Alton Towers thread, was most probably written by Sir Francis Bacon, as were all Shakespeare's plays, and is full of references to Freemasonry and Masonic thinking. Some critics have even considered Brave New World to be, ultimately, a futuristic parody of The Tempest.
Huxley's dystopian view of the future, as depicted in Brave New World, was quite shocking for its day (it was written in 1931 and published in 1932). The book starts with a scene where young naked children are enjoying sexual relations. In the future, sex is viewed simply as a recreational activity for pleasure purposes. Nobody is born into a family anymore since life starts in a test tube and babies are grown in an artificial womb at the Central London Hatchery and Conditioning Centre (cloning in other words). One's future status in this society is determined by the hormones and chemicals pumped into the developing foetus during its artificial gestation. All emotions and individuality are conditioned out of children at a young age.
The society Huxley depicts is very hierarchical with each class group having clearly defined roles to play and where people are expected to stay within the boundaries set for them by their chemically determined status. These classes, in order from highest to lowest, are Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, and Epsilon. The Alphas are bred to be leaders, and the Epsilons are bred to be menial labourers. The aim of this society though is to keep everyone happy and productive, with the higher classes enjoying a hedonistic existence in their spare time. Marriage and long term relationships are banned and people are expected to have multiple relationships - “every one belongs to every one else” (a common World State dictum). In order to deal with depression, the state makes available a drug or happy pill called 'soma' in the novel.
Interestingly, one of the main characters in the book is an alpha class member called Bernard Marx. which was obviously a nod to the Marxist/Socialist underpinnings behind Huxley's perfect state. Huxley himself was a member of the avant guarde Bloomsbury Group that contained leading writers, poets and artists etc. of the age. They were the movers and shakers of their time and would be equivalent today as social influencers. Quoting from the website Britannica:
Brave New World was written between World War I and World War II, the height of an era of technological optimism in the West. Huxley picked up on such optimism and created the dystopian world of his novel so as to criticize it. Much of the anxiety that drives Brave New World can be traced to a widespread belief in technology as a futuristic remedy for problems caused by disease and war. Unlike his fellow citizens, Huxley felt that such a reliance was naïve, and he decided to challenge these ideas by imagining them taken to their extremes.
When Huxley was interviewed on television late in his life, he made it clear that his book was intended as a warning. Since his death, test tube babies have become a reality and children are now even being produced with the DNA of three people. Artificial wombs do exist - I recall seeing a baby goat being gestated in one. Cloning has become a reality, and I have no doubt that human clones are being created behind the scenes (mind you as an identical twin, I am a clone myself).
It used to be a good examination question to compare and contrast Brave New World with that other great dystopian, futuristic novel, George Orwell's 1984. Which vision did the deep state wish to bring into being?
Hence, Gordon's quote: "No woman should have to deny herself any opportunities because of her special responsibilities to her children... Families will be finally destroyed only when a revolutionary social and economic organization permits people's needs for love and security to be met in ways that do not impose divisions of labour, or any external roles, at all.", could almost be lifted from Brave New World.
As I have written previously, it seems to be the goal of our deep state masters (controlled by 4D STS beings themselves) to undermine the nuclear family. Divorce and loose, short term relationships are at an all time high here in the west. Many children now grow up without a father's presence and influence. Homosexuality and lesbianism are being heavily promoted in the media and the movies as an alternative lifestyle. Transgenderism is the new flavour of the moment. This is all intended to produce dysfunctional people who can be more easily manipulated by the state.
In the widespread use of cannabis in nearly all western countries today, we effectively have Huxley's soma and that is before you consider the role of prescribed anti-depressant pills such as Prozac, which are dolled out by doctors like sweets or sugar coated candies to take the edge of people's soul destroying existences.
The question I would pose is whether the PTB are actively seeking to bring about Huxley's dystopian vision of humanity's future? Was Huxley someone in the know, who could see where things were headed or did he just have a good imagination?
Huxley did not, insofar as I am aware, foresee transhumanism and the advent of nanotechnology. Although I joked about Star Trek's the Borg in an earlier post, are the PTB moving in that direction, where many humans will be reduced to emotionless drone workers like the Epsilons in Huxley's novel. Afterall, the C's have said that the alien 4D Grays from Zeta Reticula are grown almost like plants (think of the 'pod people' in the movie Invasion of the Body Snatchers, which I watched again recently) in large maturation chambers. If so, it may well be an attempt to recreate the former Atlantean, pre-Deluge society where they seem to have had drone workers like Huxley's Epsilons:
And:
And finally this:
Session 16 December 1995:
So, unless people fight back against the erosion of family life and its place as the fundamental bedrock of our society, is Huxley's vision of the future going to become a reality?
It seems the themes and theoretical tech in Brave New World were discussed at length in the 1920’s, with Daedalus credited as direct inspiration:
Daedalus; or, Science and the Future - Wikipedia
Aside from this essay, which became a book, speculation was common in scientific journals as well.
It covers synthetic food as well as test tube babies developing outside the womb.
It’s interesting to think how long this has been a plan, or how many iterations of endless timelines have been tampered with to get us here.
It’s especially interesting when combined with the astrological factors of multiple cycles closing at once right now, even the very big-scale ones.
Let’s hope we are able to find a way to give the can one final big kick, so it leaves the road for good.
Daf
Padawan Learner
This last session was epic. I was shocked, particularly by how the C hinted at mass killings of men by ideologically driven women. I find myself wondering: in such imagined societies, wouldn’t collapse or foreign invasion be inevitable due to the absence of men? I suppose these regimes might maintain dominance by eliminating male offspring—including the children of potential invaders—constantly tipping the balance of power in favor of women. Still, I believe that without men maintaining infrastructure, such societies would likely devolve into low-tech, unstable states riddled with fanaticism.
I’ve come to see the debate over gender roles as artificial. In my view, men thrive through action—driven by structure, repetition, and tangible achievement—traits traditionally reinforced by older societal norms. Women, on the other hand, historically fulfilled social and supportive roles. Families—mothers, fathers, and children—used to work together within the same household. Interests were aligned and concrete, with everyone contributing according to their abilities.
But nowadays, I’ve observed that Western women, seem increasingly receptive to ideological conditioning. Liberal-progressive ideology—with its pro-communist and egalitarian undertones—is, in my opinion, disproportionately upheld by white liberal women and the current zeitgeist. Rather than being oppressed, I believe they now enjoy a level of influence unmatched by other demographics. Without their voting bloc, I doubt minority coalitions could overturn a unified conservative majority. In my view, white liberal women form the backbone of the modern left. Their political consciousness is both self-serving and socially reinforced—they see themselves as morally righteous, even as the consequences of their preferred policies, in my opinion, contribute to the unraveling of society.
To me, the real battleground is the family unit. I understand that Marxist and far-left thinkers view it as the foundation of capitalist reproduction. According to social reproduction theory, women’s unpaid domestic labor perpetuates the next generation of workers and upholds male dominance. I believe this is why the traditional family must be dismantled in their view. I see this effort manifested through queer theory, which reframes gender roles as entirely performative, and through aggressive policies aimed at undermining parental rights, indoctrinating children via the education system. (They are transitioning kids without the parent knowledge for instance, a blatant attack on parental rights)
From where I stand, the socio-economic climate is increasingly unstable: inflation is rising, financial bubbles loom, and public faith in populist figures like Donald Trump is fading—especially given his perceived subservience to Israeli interests. In my opinion, young men are among the most alienated members of society today. Though they currently lack institutional or generational power, I don’t believe they’ll remain passive forever. While a few might be drawn toward leftist radicalism, I see a growing number drifting toward fascism—a trend that is becoming increasingly visible online. Chaos brought by commies will be the spark for counter revolution.
Combined, this is similar to the Weimar Republic but not exactly. There are way more boomer than there is youth so a collapse is more likely. My take is that it will be commies vs state first. This could lead to radicalization and a rise of some fascism. Fun times....
Anyhow, thank you for the session. I am grateful for all your efforts. Stay frosty everyone!
I’ve come to see the debate over gender roles as artificial. In my view, men thrive through action—driven by structure, repetition, and tangible achievement—traits traditionally reinforced by older societal norms. Women, on the other hand, historically fulfilled social and supportive roles. Families—mothers, fathers, and children—used to work together within the same household. Interests were aligned and concrete, with everyone contributing according to their abilities.
But nowadays, I’ve observed that Western women, seem increasingly receptive to ideological conditioning. Liberal-progressive ideology—with its pro-communist and egalitarian undertones—is, in my opinion, disproportionately upheld by white liberal women and the current zeitgeist. Rather than being oppressed, I believe they now enjoy a level of influence unmatched by other demographics. Without their voting bloc, I doubt minority coalitions could overturn a unified conservative majority. In my view, white liberal women form the backbone of the modern left. Their political consciousness is both self-serving and socially reinforced—they see themselves as morally righteous, even as the consequences of their preferred policies, in my opinion, contribute to the unraveling of society.
To me, the real battleground is the family unit. I understand that Marxist and far-left thinkers view it as the foundation of capitalist reproduction. According to social reproduction theory, women’s unpaid domestic labor perpetuates the next generation of workers and upholds male dominance. I believe this is why the traditional family must be dismantled in their view. I see this effort manifested through queer theory, which reframes gender roles as entirely performative, and through aggressive policies aimed at undermining parental rights, indoctrinating children via the education system. (They are transitioning kids without the parent knowledge for instance, a blatant attack on parental rights)
From where I stand, the socio-economic climate is increasingly unstable: inflation is rising, financial bubbles loom, and public faith in populist figures like Donald Trump is fading—especially given his perceived subservience to Israeli interests. In my opinion, young men are among the most alienated members of society today. Though they currently lack institutional or generational power, I don’t believe they’ll remain passive forever. While a few might be drawn toward leftist radicalism, I see a growing number drifting toward fascism—a trend that is becoming increasingly visible online. Chaos brought by commies will be the spark for counter revolution.
Combined, this is similar to the Weimar Republic but not exactly. There are way more boomer than there is youth so a collapse is more likely. My take is that it will be commies vs state first. This could lead to radicalization and a rise of some fascism. Fun times....
Anyhow, thank you for the session. I am grateful for all your efforts. Stay frosty everyone!
pinkfreud
Jedi Master
Is this the new feminism or just an isolated case of crazy? Men and women are 'different species' now.
It isn’t isolated. Hard to say if it is normal. It is at least a subculture that is gaining attention.
Evan
The Living Force
It always starts with the ones you wouldn’t want to anyway.
axj
The Living Force
Agriculture and pottery were something like the 'new high tech' back then (at least compared to hunting and gathering) and it was apparently done mostly by women back then.
These matriarchical societies were eventually conquered or replaced by patriarchical steppe herder societies in Europe for example, but the former did last thousands of years.
Some of what you are saying I agree with, but "historical" or "traditional roles" do not necessarily mean that they were close to a good balance between the genders. Patriarchy is just as imbalanced as matriarchy.
I think I read that the weather people are making up terms such as heat dome and that the correct meaning of polar vortex has also been misappropriated. Hilarious (sort of) that the weather channel never misses a chance to blame or push "climate change" for whatever is going on. You know - that killer CO2!.
Interesting you should make this observation since a new study based on photographs taken by the ISS has shown that three glaciers in Asia have been growing not receding in clear contradiction of the global warming scam.
For more see: MSN
It may be late in the day but the penny could finally be dropping where the climate change hoax is concerned.
I would also point out that this recent finding of these glaciers gaining ice fits in nicely with what the C's said back in 1997 and 1998 about the approaching ice age:
Daf
Padawan Learner
But what does balance entails when both genders are so different. Maybe something that works at optimizing the happiness and the cooperation of both while maintaining a proper challenge for growth. That would be sweet but the world being STS oriented, the balance will be by nature closer to a 0 sum game with submission/domination.
As of now, in the West, the "equality" is getting precarious. Westerners don't have babies and therefore their/our society collapse. Newcomers/invaders are just patriarchal old school and will impose it back just by being the majority...
Few comments on the C's explanation for Y-chromosome bottleneck - feminist libtard phenomenon.Is this the new feminism or just an isolated case of crazy? Men and women are 'different species' now.
- Every thing runs on electricity. It also needs maintenance. If this electricity or physical infrastructure needs maintenance, it is the people (with physical strength) who has to do. Why can't woman do it? They can try. It is wishful thinking to match the genetic body that withstood evolution of time. Even if all the business owners are woman, they will hire only men (in the long run), not woman for the sake of their own bottom line.
- C's said whether person is born as man or woman is mostly decided by roll of dice - "In your density, masculinism/feminish is essentially a roll of "the dice." Remember, at higher levels gender is nonexistent." session-8-april-2000
- It means, it is the genetics play the most of the activity roles (woman or man) supposed to do it. i.e. it is more or less mechanical. Not the mind, though it has "minor" role.
- The power of belief center changing the body is the 4D stuff. - "Remember, most all power necessary for altering reality and physicality is contained within the belief center of the mind. This is something you will understand more closely when you reach 4th density reality where physicality is no longer a prison, but is instead, your home, for you to alter as you please. In your current state, you have the misinterpretation of believing that reality is finite and therein lies your difficulty with finite physical existence." - session-12-august-1995
- We have seen absolute craziest events during the last 25 years. Craziest of all is, most people went with it, which is unthinkable century back. These events always reminded me of something I read in some book (probably in Bringers of the dawn) - Every drama that happened in the cycle will have to come up at the end of the cycle for reevaluation.
- Is this current feminist stuff is another example?
- Feminist woman complain of man's excesses and proclaim their dispensability. Now they can use some technology. This raises question how the woman had babies at that time? They need some man even to have pregnancy right? If they killed the most men, I have to assume, few men are taking the load of impregnating lot of woman.
- The current Western men has a obsession of "how many women they bedded" (like a performance metric). At least during the adolescent age. I wondered whether it is the replay of the past adapted circumstances of few survived men?
- Feminist woman complain of man's excesses and proclaim their dispensability. Now they can use some technology. This raises question how the woman had babies at that time? They need some man even to have pregnancy right? If they killed the most men, I have to assume, few men are taking the load of impregnating lot of woman.
QuantumLogic said:
What interests me about this almost unique binary star system that is due to go supernova is that it is located just below the constellation of Scorpio, the constellation in which the planet D'Ankhiar is located, which the C's said is where the original human race was seeded by the Orions:
This planet is due to be "cindered up" by a massive supernova at the same time as we move on Earth into 4D:
Following up on my previous comments, I came across an interesting article which talks about an upcoming supernova in a very rare type of binary star system.
See: A Jaw-Dropping Binary Star Is About to Go Supernova, And Could Produce a Gamma-Ray Burst
See: A Jaw-Dropping Binary Star Is About to Go Supernova, And Could Produce a Gamma-Ray Burst
What interests me about this almost unique binary star system that is due to go supernova is that it is located just below the constellation of Scorpio, the constellation in which the planet D'Ankhiar is located, which the C's said is where the original human race was seeded by the Orions:
This planet is due to be "cindered up" by a massive supernova at the same time as we move on Earth into 4D:
I have previously speculated whether the star that will go supernova and cause the destruction of D'Ahnkiar is the red supergiant Antares. Like the constellation of Orion, the constellation of Scorpio has its own Horsehead Nebula. When Laura discussed the Horsehead Nebula in Orion, she wondered whether the supernova the C's have spoken of might occur in a kite shaped area adjacent to that nebula:
You will note that the C's mention that we should look to the "foot" for the supernova. If the supernova is not the star Rigel, which is located at foot of Orion, then should we be looking for a star that is located at the foot of Scorpio? Unfortunately for our purposes here, Antares is not situated at the foot of Scorpio.
However, it seems that this newly discovered star Apep (which is an ominous name given the role that the serpent Apep played in Egyptian mythology) is located in an area that is visible just below Scorpio, which would therefore equate to the foot of that constellation. Remember also that what astronomers are seeing today where this star is concerned is a view of that star 8.000 years ago. If it has already gone supernova, then the resultant gamma ray burst could theoretically release more energy in 10 seconds than the Sun could in 10 billion years. If the star that D'Ahnkiar is orbiting was close enough, then one could see how the planet could be cindered up by a massive gamma ray burst. Alternatively, such a gamma ray burst might trigger Antares to go supernova, a star which is much closer to Earth and has a companion star that is similar to our own sun, which could feasibly host an Earth-like planet such as D'Ahnkiar.
I have just watched a most appropriate video on Edgar Cayce which fits in very nicely with what the C's have been saying in this session about meditation and how it could change things for the better. At the 10.20 mark in the video, Cayce states that through prayer, meditation and raising consciousness humans could minimise the severity of these Earth changes. He saw groups of spiritually minded people around the world serving as lightning rods to help stabilise the Earth's energies during turbulent times ahead.
He also pointed out that souls have deliberately chosen to incarnate in this particular time period for it offers unprecedented opportunities for spiritual growth and the challenges we are currently facing are in fact catalysts for spiritual evolution. He also saw that what was destruction was really construction and the ending as really being the beginning of a new phase of consciousness ("New world coming" and 4th density?).
I highly recommend this short video as it corresponds with so much the C's have told us. Perhaps a coordinated Forum based meditation session along the lines Cayce recommended would see the Forum acting as one of Cayce's lightning rods?
See:
He also pointed out that souls have deliberately chosen to incarnate in this particular time period for it offers unprecedented opportunities for spiritual growth and the challenges we are currently facing are in fact catalysts for spiritual evolution. He also saw that what was destruction was really construction and the ending as really being the beginning of a new phase of consciousness ("New world coming" and 4th density?).
I highly recommend this short video as it corresponds with so much the C's have told us. Perhaps a coordinated Forum based meditation session along the lines Cayce recommended would see the Forum acting as one of Cayce's lightning rods?
See:
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