Trump Elected: The True MAGA Era Begins, Now What?

I think Trump will probably offer "no Ukraine in NATO" and that Russia can obviously keep what it is holding, with some minor swaps of land.

However, how can Ukraine be denazified? It is one of the main objectives for Russia. They could probably agree on forcing Ukraine to outlaw neonazis, remove the vilification of the Russian language and things like that. But is it enough?

I think it is pretty clear that Russia sees an opportunity to end the war faster by making an agreement with Trump that Ukraine will reject. Which in turn makes it likely that Trump will put pressure on them, eg. by stopping weapons deliveries.
 
Cosmos said:
I think all things considered Putin probably thinks meeting in that way is the best way to go taking both consideration into account: safety and chance for something fruitful/substantial. Assuming of course that this is one reason why they meet like that in Alaska.
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Yeah, I agree. They'd have done a risk benefit analysis and concluded it was ok to have the meeting in person.

A thought occurred to me that perhaps if something is imminent from a celestial perspective, there may be a need to instigate something as a sort of cover story.
 
I see a lot of Trump supporters either turning or just not happy with him lately.

He has been right about more issues than any politician in my lifetime. Had Hillary won in 16, we would all likely be chipped by now. I never expected him to kill the deep state, just buy us time, and hes done that. If he gets us to a new gold backed currency, ending the Fed, and possible the IRS as well, he would be the most consequential president in 200 years.

Its not even a year yet, hes still has my total support, even if it isnt blind support and there are things I disagree with.

He must live long enough to finish this term, the real question is who can fill his shoes after, or are we all doomed to computerized slavery?
 
FM258 said:
I see a lot of Trump supporters either turning or just not happy with him lately.

He has been right about more issues than any politician in my lifetime. Had Hillary won in 16, we would all likely be chipped by now. I never expected him to kill the deep state, just buy us time, and hes done that. If he gets us to a new gold backed currency, ending the Fed, and possible the IRS as well, he would be the most consequential president in 200 years.

Its not even a year yet, hes still has my total support, even if it isnt blind support and there are things I disagree with.

He must live long enough to finish this term, the real question is who can fill his shoes after, or are we all doomed to computerized slavery?
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He's only been in office for 7 months and he has started many things taking us onto a better direction. It's just the start which needs to be remembered I think. Many things are coming to the surface which haven't been acknowledged by the populace as a whole and that is causing dissatisfaction with some, one being how much Israel influences the US. It's a good thing this is getting so much attention because it needs to stop but that only begins when its brought out into the open which is happening. I wonder sometimes if this revealing is planned by Trump at times to show people the seriousness of the issue. He appears to be appeasing them but....is he ?

Another thing is the pharmaceutical Co. power. RFK Jr. is making progress but people see the control they still have which is discouraging. The Deep State is still working the system and to think it should be already gone is silly.

He still has the great support of the people. He's really going after the drug trafficking problem which many so appreciate among other serious issues such as deportations on and on. We still have years left and a lot can happen. Don't be disheartened by the whiners! .

Cleaning up Social Security.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956047602194984982

I haven't watched all of this. The focus here is the history of Israels support among the US people going back to its start using polls which have always favored nonintervention. It's said the present admin has over estimated the support for Israel among Evangelicals, especially the younger generation, and this needs to be acknowledged since it affects their policies. Gaza has really turned so many away.

 
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SummerLite said:
He's only been in office for 7 months and he has started many things taking us onto a better direction.
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Good point to remember that Trump has only been in office for 7 months. No matter what we assume about what he really wants to accomplish it certainly still early in his presidency to judge more objectively what his overall goals and/or accomplishments might be after the 4 years.

Also, even if many people (including me) tend to be disappointed about Trump not really tackling some of the elephants in the room such as Israel and even doing the opposite, we should remember that he very clearly said that he will do exactly that (support Israel in high levels) long before he became president this time. So in a sense we shouldn’t be surprised or disappointed at all. Also there is always the pretty slim possibility that Trump tries to actually tackle that issue over a longer period while being “strategic“ about it now.
 
Cosmos said:
Good point to remember that Trump has only been in office for 7 months. No matter what we assume about what he really wants to accomplish it certainly still early in his presidency to judge more objectively what his overall goals and/or accomplishments might be after the 4 years.

Also, even if many people (including me) tend to be disappointed about Trump not really tackling some of the elephants in the room such as Israel and even doing the opposite, we should remember that he very clearly said that he will do exactly that (support Israel in high levels) long before he became president this time. So in a sense we shouldn’t be surprised or disappointed at all. Also there is always the pretty slim possibility that Trump tries to actually tackle that issue over a longer period while being “strategic“ about it now.
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Well, I was in my usual very naive state thinking that he might have been 'strategic' when he talked about supporting Israel to the end no matter what. The thing that was really dissapointing was that he apparently can not see that the Deep State and Israeli influence/goals have been more or less one and the same as concerns the USA.

My hopes for him got rather high when in his inauguration speech he made rather clear indication that he knew that the people behind the assassination attempt in July last year were the Deep State. At the same time there was sort of cognitive dissonance that he went on board with "Iran is to blame" story at the time.

Recently, I don't know what to think about him anymore, but trying just to observe his actions, as in that old biblical saying, "by their fruits you shall know them". And his fruits so far taste rather sour at least as my taste buds are concerned.
 
If you have an abscessed tooth that needs a root canal, cleaning it real good and maybe putting some whitener on there isn't going to actually fix anything! We have unelected criminals who operate behind the scenes, like a mob family. Draining the swamp was the only hope for any real change regardless of how unlikely that was to succeed. I'll concede that maybe Trump has slowed the plans of the consortium a little. And maybe that will somehow play favorably to how it all ultimately plays out, but all of this is just pissing in the wind, political theater. And he may very well be making things worse playing loose with the laws and constitution, setting a precedence that will no doubt be used by the other side of the uni-party when they more than likely will regain power.

I'm all for having hope. As long as it based on something tangible. And right now, I'm not seeing it. All I'm seeing is a clown show, as usual.
 
Lessons, lessons, lessons. The C's said "all there is, is lessons", and that seems so these days—all the world's a classroom. We seem to be gearing up for the 'big final'. I kinda feel that 'college burnout' to some extent, except on a cosmic level. Even Cosmic Mind has probably had enough of this nonsense. :cool2::lol: The 'sheer absurdity of man's system of beliefs' has become even more orthogonal to objective reality of late, with sometimes oddly humorous results for those with an eye to see.

There is excessive crime in big cities along with a negative miasma of mental illness, depression, drug addiction, poverty, hopelessness, etc. There's reason, logic, and good intentions in the idea of enforcing some order in DC (and every dirty cesspool of a city), but we all know by now, at least to some extent, the way STS works. The saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is true because the psychos rely on the trusting innocence of the sheeple to be satisfied with soothing reassurances of parental concern... while they lay their traps.

The C's said, and I paraphrase, that some of the actions of the PTB would result in their having a 'tiger by the tail', regarding using immigrants for political purposes, and I assume also fomenting civil wars where convenient. I hope that we see such a groundswell of real grassroots disgust after the cat is finally and inexorably let out of the bag in all its inglorious Epstein and other details that we won't even need a leader in 'officialdom' (for a while at least). We all may be helped along by a Carrington Event and/or an ice age, a few nukes, and a plague or two.
 
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There is excessive crime in big cities along with a negative miasma of mental illness, depression, drug addiction, poverty, hopelessness, etc. There's reason, logic, and good intentions in the idea of enforcing some order in DC (and every dirty cesspool of a city), but we all know by now, at least to some extent, the way STS works. The saying "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" is true because the psychos rely on the trusting innocence of the sheeple to be satisfied with soothing reassurances of parental concern...
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I got inspired enough about the origins of the phrase "the road to hell is paved with good intentions" to use an AI video platform to make a video and put it on YouTube, don't want to hijack this thread though...

 
FM258 said:
I see a lot of Trump supporters either turning or just not happy with him lately.
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I have observed this and a common denominator is Interest rates. The majority of Americans, old and young, are having troble buyig cars, real estate and the other side of interest rates is the high credit card rates. Combined it is putting a pressure on the middle states/middle class whom are really focused on that.

I remember a few months ago AOC was going to partner with a Republican peer and force Credit Card companies down to a maximum rate of 10%.

Trump keeps humiliating Powell and the Fed in general, hints at cypto, hints at creating all these new investment funds (ie. crypto etf's)
but for about 80% of the actual American population, managing debt is taking most of their cycles.

There seems to be a couple of precedents that the pattern to me is that when so much of the population is pre-occupied and distracted, a big event/shock is about to punch everyone in the gut. Not always a bad thing as with that comes greater awareness of the reality of the situation.
 
Not sure what's going to come out of the USA/Russia, Trump/Putin summit. Although I'm up early and just seen the closing press conference. I listened to Putin and Trump talking and I find it comforting that they certainly don't appear to want to push the world to war. Sensible that these countries can sit down and discuss things. There does appear to be adults in the room.
The press are starting the usual negative spin analysing the meeting. No doubt they'll be something coming to escalate the conflict with Ukraine.
I like the fact this is making it more difficult for the idiotic European leaders and Zelenskys special friend Sir Kier. It's going to be and interesting week or two watching the fall out from this.
 
The following might seem nonsensical or a nothing burger but I also noticed it as well when I saw Trump coming from the airplane:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1956444695871238144

In fact, I started noticing it right after he exited the airplane: Trump seemed to have significant problems catching the handrail and walking down the steps on the handrail seemed to be rather hard for him as well. I assumed that probably age is getting to him and felt a bit sorry for the guy. What do you think?
 
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Just thinking/speculating out loud here:

In recent times at times I thought about the possibility that Trump might have drinking (alcohol) problems mainly because I looked at his nose and it reminded me of a “typical“ drinking nose. I know that he used to never drink any alcohol, but maybe that has changed? I also know that one of the main reasons he didn’t touch any alcohol was because his brother died as an alcoholic and Trump swore (at least from that time on) to never ever touch it and also raised his children with that rule in mind.

Maybe Trump also had such proclivities at some point in the past and/or there is a “genetic“ tendency running in the family towards such an abuse? And he started it again in secret not so long ago?
 
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