The United Kingdom has gotten this bad. Truly sickening.

Something is indeed happening in the UK, it has by far the largest number of millionaires leaving this year of any country in the world (keep in mind that China and India each have about 10-20 times more population than the UK):

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Source: Fortune

The highest inflow of millionaires is towards the UAE and the US this year:

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Source

One theory I just heard from a Russian analyst is that the US is destroying Europe in order to attract this kind of migration of both people and capital from the EU (and UK) towards the US.
 
Recently there's been a smattering of rebellion in the UK under Operation: Raise the Colours with people everywhere putting up the flag of St George, the Patron Saint of England, and the flag most commonly used to represent the English people. Of course the authorities have been HATING IT, and have been trying to take these down as fast as possible while more and more get put up.


Seems like another large protest is being organized for Oct 1st.
 
Recently there's been a smattering of rebellion in the UK under Operation: Raise the Colours with people everywhere putting up the flag of St George, the Patron Saint of England, and the flag most commonly used to represent the English people. Of course the authorities have been HATING IT, and have been trying to take these down as fast as possible while more and more get put up.


Seems like another large protest is being organized for Oct 1st.
I'd stay away from that guy who runs that channel, not unless you are into the likes of Tommy Robinson and that type of characters.
 
I'd agree with this but I think it's clear over here in the UK there's a massive disconnect from the public and those leading us.
I was a small child when Thatcher was in charge. It's gradually got worse with each new Leader, that's incredible really! No matter what colour of the party flag is waved.
I've not heard anyone have a good word for Starmer he's despised here. It does appear we're heading to some kind of breaking point.
What will that look like, another pandemic is my bet but who knows.
I agree. I think the PTB finger is poised over the button marked "pandemic". They would have to make it an ultra serious one though, as there is still a huge backlash against the vaccinations, and folk are not going to blindly walk into this one unless they are faced with potential extinction on a grand scale. I also think the public were not impressed with the damage done by the notorious lockdowns. It has affected so many areas of life and still is affecting them.
 
I live in a relatively affluent town without any particular immigration related tensions. There has been a very noticeable increase recently in the number of immigrants, especially Africans. I assumed that was part of a dispersal strategy by the government. Anyway, even in such a town I have just today seen two houses flying England flags which have never done so before, and two people flying large flags on the back of their bicycles. This generally wouldn't happen except during major international football fixtures (there are none at this time).
 
I haven't seen this posted in the forum before. It is one of the erhmm, more controversial speeches by a public political figure in British history

Enoch Powell's Rivers of Blood speech, delivered in 1968, sparked intense debate on immigration and race relations in Britain.


John Enoch Powell MBE was a British politician, scholar and writer. He served as Member of Parliament for Wolverhampton South West for the Conservative Party from 1950 to February 1974 and as the MP for South Down for the Ulster Unionist Party from October 1974 to 1987.
 
I found this interesting as I didn't quite know how it all begun, skinheads.


The Rise and Fall of Britain's Skinhead Subculture: From Unity to Division

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The Rise and Fall of Britain's Skinhead Subculture: From Unity to Division​

By Albert Harmon Published February 29, 2024

The skinhead subculture emerged in Britain during the late 1960s, characterized by its distinctive fashion and music. Initially, it represented a fusion of Jamaican and British working-class cultures, but over time, it became associated with violence and racism. This blog post delves into the origins, evolution, and eventual decline of the skinhead movement, highlighting its complex history and cultural significance.

Origins of the Skinhead Subculture​

Post-War Britain and Jamaican Influence​

After World War II, Britain faced significant economic challenges and social upheaval. In an effort to rebuild the country, the British government encouraged immigration from its colonies, including Jamaica. This led to the arrival of Jamaican immigrants who brought with them their cultural influences, particularly in music and fashion.

The skinhead movement drew inspiration from the Jamaican rude boys, who were known for their distinctive style and music preferences. The rude boys' fashion, influenced by American jazz and soul musicians, began to merge with the British working-class culture, particularly that of the mods, who were known for their sharp dressing and consumerist attitudes.

The Fusion of Cultures​

As the rude boys and mods interacted, a new subculture began to form. By the late 1960s, some working-class mods started to adopt a more aggressive and masculine look, which included shaving their heads and wearing practical clothing like button-up shirts, braces, and Levi 501 jeans. This transformation marked the birth of the skinhead identity.

The Skinhead Aesthetic​

Fashion and Music​

The skinhead look was characterized by a shaved head, sturdy footwear (often Dr. Martens), and a preference for specific clothing styles. The music that defined the skinhead subculture included ska, rocksteady, and reggae, with bands like Simmer Rip providing anthems such as "Skinhead Moonstomp."

The skinheads were initially a celebration of working-class culture, breaking down racial barriers and sharing cultural experiences. Young white British boys would socialize with Jamaican youths, creating a unique blend of music and fashion that was both rebellious and inclusive.

The Golden Age of Skinheads​

Mainstream Popularity​

By 1969, the skinhead subculture had gained significant traction in British society. It was widely recognized, and even mainstream bands like Slade attempted to adopt the skinhead image for marketing purposes. However, this popularity was met with increasing scrutiny and backlash from other societal groups.

The Rise of Violence​

As the skinhead movement grew, it became intertwined with football hooliganism, leading to a rise in violent incidents. Many young men associated with the skinhead culture were involved in fights and criminal activities, which contributed to a negative public perception of the subculture.

Political Turmoil and the National Front​

Recruitment by the National Front​

The National Front, a far-right political organization, recognized the potential of the skinhead movement as a recruiting ground. They targeted disillusioned young men, using football matches and other events to spread their message. While some skinheads were drawn to the National Front, it is crucial to note that the majority of skinheads were not racist and continued to embrace the original multicultural ethos of the movement.

The Shift Towards Racism​

Media Representation and Moral Panic​

As violence and crime associated with skinheads increased, media coverage began to paint all skinheads as hooligans and racists. This moral panic led to a self-fulfilling prophecy, where the negative portrayal of skinheads pushed some individuals to embrace the violent and racist stereotypes.

The Decline of the Original Movement​

By the mid-1970s, the skinhead subculture began to decline as new trends emerged, such as glam rock and disco. Many skinheads abandoned their distinctive look and music preferences, while the National Front continued to exploit the remaining skinheads for their agenda.

The Second Wave of Skinheads​

The Punk Influence​

The late 1970s saw a resurgence of skinheads, largely influenced by the punk movement. Bands like Sham 69 brought a new energy to the scene, appealing to working-class youth with anti-establishment themes. However, this revival also led to a division within the skinhead community, as some factions began to adopt far-right ideologies.

Oi! Music and Its Controversies​

The emergence of the Oi! music genre, which was associated with working-class pride and rebellion, further complicated the skinhead identity. While many Oi! bands were not explicitly racist, the genre became linked to far-right movements, leading to increased violence at concerts and a tarnished reputation for the skinhead subculture.

The Legacy of Skinheads​

From Cultural Exchange to Extremism​

By the late 1980s and into the 1990s, the skinhead image had become synonymous with far-right extremism. The original spirit of unity and cultural exchange was overshadowed by associations with racism and violence. Neo-Nazi groups adopted the skinhead aesthetic, further distorting its original meaning.

The Current State of the Subculture​

Today, the skinhead subculture exists in a fragmented state. While some individuals still embrace the original ideals of the movement, many have been swept up in far-right ideologies. The aesthetic has evolved, often reflecting a more militaristic and extremist image.

Conclusion​

The skinhead subculture's journey from a vibrant celebration of cultural exchange to a symbol of division and hate is a poignant reminder of how societal issues can shape and distort identities. While there are still pockets of individuals who seek to reclaim the original spirit of the skinheads, the movement's legacy is forever intertwined with the darker aspects of its history. As new subcultures emerge, the lessons learned from the skinhead experience remain relevant in understanding the complexities of cultural identity and societal change.

 
Skinhead culture might have declined, but that's mainly because it morphed into the "football casual" culture, which is very macho, very male, and often racist, particularly against Muslims. Designer clothing and Tommy Robinson ideology would just about sum it up. I avoid them like the plague.
 
Skinhead culture might have declined, but that's mainly because it morphed into the "football casual" culture, which is very macho, very male, and often racist, particularly against Muslims. Designer clothing and Tommy Robinson ideology would just about sum it up. I avoid them like the plague.
same dark energies though

I recall as a 13 year old being dragged off my bycycle punched and given a severe kicking over by a gang of 5 skinhead teenagers -
they had seen my school tie which signified to them I was a ponce and deserved having the crap beaten out of me... one of the major reasons why I grew to resent that private school and what it propagated !!
 
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Since we are talking about subcultures. Worth mentioning how football hooliganism was so rampant and so violent back in the day. For those not in the UK, football was akin to a religion for the working class (nowadays it's more a middle class thing I'd say) and it had a really hypermasculine and violent culture around it. It was not uncommon for towns and cities to be overrun by hooligans during certain matches.


If you were a schoolboy back in those days, you certainly didn't want to come across soft otherwise you'd be attracting trouble.

The only other country in Europe where I think football reached religious levels is Italy where I understand organised crime is also involved in their football business as it were. The UK doesn't have the organised crime element intertwined with football i.e. there's no Italian mafia equivalent, just pure passion and craziness for the game fueling the religious highs that spilled to violence more often than not in the 70s/80s etc.

Anyways, here's a question, those crazy hooligans from the 80s and 90s, how old do you think they are right now? 50s perhaps? What do you think they are saying about the country today. No doubt that it's going down the toilet! Interesting, eh?!?!?. 🤷
 
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Since we are talking about subcultures. Worth mentioning how football hooliganism was so rampant and so violent back in the day. For those not in the UK, football was akin to a religion for the working class (nowadays it's more a middle class thing I'd say) and it had a really hypermasculine and violent culture around it. It was not uncommon for towns and cities to be overrun by hooligans during certain matches.


If you were a schoolboy back in those days, you certainly didn't want to come across soft otherwise you'd be attracting trouble.
Football Hooligans were at there worst 70's probably peaking in the 80's The authorities seemed to get control after Heysal. It was wild in those days.
Growing up in my teens although not even in the city. Punch ups happened most weekends. It certainly was a crazy time looking back and I regretted deeply some of the stuff I got involved in. Although that period needed to change look where we are now it's almost flipped on its head. Although there is violence in the city's I'm not sure it could be compared or anything like the hooligan stuff.
I learned some harsh lessons in those years growing up.
Football certainly is a middle class activity now. I try to go regularly to watch Leeds with my son. Haven't witnessed any trouble in the last 4 years though there is some. Most of the Hooligans are well known now.
 
Football Hooligans were at there worst 70's probably peaking in the 80's The authorities seemed to get control after Heysal. It was wild in those days.
Growing up in my teens although not even in the city. Punch ups happened most weekends. It certainly was a crazy time looking back and I regretted deeply some of the stuff I got involved in. Although that period needed to change look where we are now it's almost flipped on its head. Although there is violence in the city's I'm not sure it could be compared or anything like the hooligan stuff.
I learned some harsh lessons in those years growing up.
Football certainly is a middle class activity now. I try to go regularly to watch Leeds with my son. Haven't witnessed any trouble in the last 4 years though there is some. Most of the Hooligans are well known now.
I recall there were some flare ups in the late 90s/early 2000s as remember some stuff came up in Euro 2000 but agree it was at its peak in the 70s and 80s.

I definitely recall seeing some stuff on TV back in 2000 for the Euros but needed to check to see my mind isn't playing tricks on me.

This clip has swearing FYI


I was in my teenage years in the 2000s so never experienced that rawness firsthand that you describe but was into football in my school days as I much preferred hanging out with the lads in the playground as opposed to trying to talk to girls in the common room at school. 😅

All I know is that I don't think things were easy if you grew up in certain parts of the country back in the 70s or 80s. Suppose it's worth saying there's a regional and class element to all these as the culture wouldn't be uniform throughout the country.

Incidentally, and this may appear like a random statement, one thing that isn't as prevalent nowadays is the hardcore binge drinking culture that usually fuelled hooliganism. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!
 
Incidentally, and this may appear like a random statement, one thing that isn't as prevalent nowadays is the hardcore binge drinking culture that usually fuelled hooliganism. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong!
Yes I think your correct and that's probably down to affordability. People drinking at home now when previously it was down the pub.
 
I've been going mention regarding the demonstrations at the migrant hotels. Has any of the British contingent noticed that nearly every demonstration. There is a counter demonstration (probably shipped in provocateurs) always pushing the narrative that the protesters are right wing.
When I think many normal Brits are just sick of what's going on here.
 
Absolutely. Cries accusing the - justifiably - displeased British folk of being 'Right Wing' is still the battle cry de jour. The police seem to largely have that idea in mind as well.


The police seemed very ready to squash the dissent of the young man in the video above for declaring his like of bacon. I don't know whether to laugh or despair...
 

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