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Summary executions. Did you vote for this?

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This seems like an attempt to stop the constant influx of fentanyl/meth that is eroding downtown cores of major cities all over North America. I live in arguably the most effected area in North America and would happily see this happen here.

It may not be the best approach, but instilling the fear of death in to people who are behaving like parasites is about the least controversial thing I could think of.

The irony is that these drug peddlers are actually protected by the law. In many places in the world they would be systematically removed by the people themselves.

I probably have a more extreme view than most, but I think there are a lot of people on this planet worthy of a "Summary execution".

Humanity needs to get over this oversimplification of things like the death penalty. Part of the reason pathology has proliferated so strongly in the west is this limp wristed approach to crime that has only been getting worse.
 
I probably have a more extreme view than most, but I think there are a lot of people on this planet worthy of a "Summary execution".

I don't see Trump going after Netanyahu and the IDF; on the contrary, he gives them weapons and, in this case, you could say that he supports "the summary execution of Palestinian terrorists."

The US did not arrest the crew members or reveal their identities. They did not show the drugs. They did not prove any connection to Venezuela. We have to believe what the White House says, no matter what, because we have already forgotten about Hussein's weapons of mass destruction. And what about the American drug lords?

"Bombing the boat is a violation of the universal principle of proportionality of force and amounts to murder," said President Gustavo Petro.


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I probably have a more extreme view than most, but I think there are a lot of people on this planet worthy of a "Summary execution".

Humanity needs to get over this oversimplification of things like the death penalty. Part of the reason pathology has proliferated so strongly in the west is this limp wristed approach to crime that has only been getting worse.
What you are advocating for is not even a police state but a dystopian nightmare and a dream come true for psychopaths in positions of power. Would you really trust these people to decide on who deserves a summary execution without a trial?
 
What you are advocating for is not even a police state but a dystopian nightmare and a dream come true for psychopaths in positions of power. Would you really trust these people to decide on who deserves a summary execution without a trial?
No thats not what I am saying at all.

Obviously the issue becomes that something like that would be used for nefarious purposes in the wrong hands.

The issue we now have in the west are catch and release practices on crime, which is even worse in Canada than in the states. You have criminals who are working for said psychopaths operating major drug networks that are flooding drugs on to the streets who quite literally get a slap on the wrist and released on bail within days for being caught with millions of dollars of narcotics.

I was just saying in a more theoretical sense that if some of these people end up getting killed I really have no empathy for them.

Best case scenario is our justice systems actually stand up for justice and properly punish people for haneous crimes, which isnt happening.

I could just as equally ask, do you expect these people to go to trial and get properly treated for what they have done? Knowing our judges are likely complicit and on the payroll of the same psychopathic elites? We can already see this isnt happening, so in this sense how are they not being protected by the law?

I think any time justified vigilante justice happens, that its a natural way to stop the proliferation of psychopathy, and I think it may end up getting to that point, our justice system has failed entirely.

The first place I would look at implementing said executions would be the psychopathic elites creating it all. I certainly dont expect them to act righteously.
 
I could just as equally ask, do you expect these people to go to trial and get properly treated for what they have done? Knowing our judges are likely complicit and on the payroll of the same psychopathic elites? We can already see this isnt happening, so in this sense how are they not being protected by the law?

Well it depends what you mean by 'these people'. In this particular instance we're talking about some people in a boat, who may have done something but we don't know who decided that or how. We don't know much, but it would appear that rather than try to apprehend or stop these people, they were killed. That's not a good precedent to set, even though it seems like swift and efficient justice. Skynet is swift and efficient.
 
The issue we now have in the west are catch and release practices on crime, which is even worse in Canada than in the states. You have criminals who are working for said psychopaths operating major drug networks that are flooding drugs on to the streets who quite literally get a slap on the wrist and released on bail within days for being caught with millions of dollars of narcotics.
Those who deserve the death penalty are hardly a part of catch and release, which is usually done only for immigration offenses or low-risk individuals. Demanding their deaths seems disproportionate.

Best case scenario is our justice systems actually stand up for justice and properly punish people for haneous crimes, which isnt happening.
Claiming that no justice is happening through the courts sounds like black and white thinking. In some cases it is true, in others it isn't.

I think any time justified vigilante justice happens, that its a natural way to stop the proliferation of psychopathy, and I think it may end up getting to that point, our justice system has failed entirely.
We were talking about summary executions, which is state-sanctioned killing without trial and what Trump has started doing now. It may or may not be justified in the case of the cartels, but it looks more like a US power play against Venezuela, with oil being the real reason.
 
Summary executions. Did you vote for this?
A main tenant of Trump's campaign leading up to the 2024 election was to take the fight/go on the offensive with the cartels. Everyone that voted for Trump were pretty eyes wide open to the reality of the influx (sans consequences) of chemical compounds that have been killing American's by the tens of thousands each year.

So to ask if American's voted for this and more of the same in regards to eliminating the supply chain of deadly chemicals killing American's, I would point to data points that could be used to answer your question on your own:
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(Carl) How many real living US citizens cast a legitimate vote for Donald Trump in the recent election, to the nearest million?

(Joe) Real citizens?

(L) Real citizens that are registered to vote.

A: Close to 100.

Q: (L) Close to 100 million?

A: Yes.
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In this particular instance we're talking about some people in a boat, who may have done something but we don't know who decided that or how.

Ben your sentence reminds me Ilhan Omar's sentence when she was talking about 9/11 ie: "...some people did something..."

but we don't know who decided that or how

This was a military operation and rarely does any military (any military globally) disclose how they obtain tactical information when conducting military operations. That is the inherent posture of military planning as one strike does not win anything long term but typically an iterative step to a larger plan.

The who, why and how is typically left to the historians of the future.

I wonder if the sentiment/reaction would be the same if the narrative shifted and instead of a boat full of "drugs" was instead "cluster bombs". Which both result in the same outcome, random loss of life.
 
It is murder. Everything coming from the empire of lies is a lie until proven otherwise. An anti-drug operation in any country is a simple interception that the US coastal guards in US waters are capable of, even if they get information from military sources like satellites and so forth. This is akin of bombing a hospital and saying it is khamas, or bombing a country and saying it's because of imaginary weapons of mass destruction. It's very simple. The goal is Venezuelan oil and resources, the rest is the usual slogans of spreading democracy, fighting drug cartels (fighting the CIA? not possible) and so forth. The US military has been murdering people for big money and corporations for over a century, and they still use the same asinine massaging again and again.
 

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