How do humans change the cycle for 1D and 2D?

[T.C.]

I’ve been trying to figure something out that the C’s once said and I’m stuck.

In the short wave cycle vs long wave cycle session, they said:

A: Positive by-product is an increase in relative energy which speeds up the learning process of the soul and all of it's one dimensional and two dimensional interactive partners. In other words, flora and fauna, minerals, etc. All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a faster rate on the cycle through this shortwave cycle physical/ethereal transfer. Of a negative nature, it also produces many negative experiences for these very same entities which otherwise would not exist because being of a first level and second level nature, flora and fauna would ordinarily experience a long term or long wave cycle on the physical plane as opposed to a short wave cycle physical and ethereal, as they do now because of their interaction with the human species in its short wave ethereal/physical cycle.

Firstly, we could suppose that this implies that if there was no human-soulgroup presence on Earth, then 1st and 2nd density entities would be on a long wave cycle. The C’s said that the difference between the two types of cycle is that a short wave one “involves a duality” and that this duality is what we think of as life and death, the totality of experience being equal between here and 5D. (That’s what they’re referring to in the quote when they use the term “physical/etherial cycle”)

This would mean that if the human-soulgroup wasn’t on Earth, there would be plants and animals, but they wouldn’t die.

I’d like to know if that’s actually true. I’d also like to know why and how it is that the presence of the human-soulgroup changes 1st and 2nd density experience of reality from the long to short wave cycle.

One thing which might be involved is the way we perceive time. You couldn’t have beings on a long wave cycle coexisting with us because it sounds as though - in a nutshell - they don’t really change, whereas we perceive things as being created, and being and changing, and then decaying and dying.

But I also don’t think that our perception of time is the factor that actually changes the quality of reality and experience for 1st and 2nd density beings, due to it being essentially a subjective illusion.

There’s the ray of creation angle, where each density is sort of embedded or included in the next and the below is downstream of what’s above. If the human-soulgroup came from a different density and polarity, and we were inserted into this one, then that could be akin to, say, shining the white light of a torch onto a wall, with a hand in between so that the silhouette of the hand is showing on the wall; and then putting a sheet of red plastic between the light and the hand so that the light on the wall surrounding the image of the silhouette changes from white to red.

I think, from writing this down, my main question is, is it simple human physical proximity/presence on the planet that changes the cycle for 1st and 2nd density beings, or is it something to do with human consciousness? Another way of thinking about that question is, are 1D and 2D entities actually on a short wave cycle, or is that just our perception of them because we are on one? The C’s seem to suggest it’s the former, but that question helps to illustrate the problem I’m having from another angle.

I’ve also wondered whether the idea of planets or the centres of them being windows has anything to do with it. Like, for a planet where 1st and 2nd density beings experience a long wave cycle, a certain level and quality of being and reality is coming through the window. But with the presence of the human-soulgroup, then a different level and quality of being and reality is coming through the window. Again, the torch/silhouette analogy above could be used in that case.

Sorry is this is all just rambling noise. I’ve been thinking about it all week because I can’t figure it out.

 

[Wandering Star]

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All experience growth and movement towards reunion at a faster rate on the cycle through this shortwave cycle physical/ethereal transfer.

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My interpretation of this is that the short wave cycle implies physicality.

That is to say, I believe that in the long wave cycle there are also one-dimensional and two-dimensional companions, but without physicality (entropy therefore), so the interaction with more conscious beings It is different because they cannot harm them (for example).

In the words of Ra (Law of One): "Time-Space is a realm as rich in illusions as the experience you now enjoy." (I'm paraphrasing.)

 

[Wandering Star]

October, 22 1994


A:... everything that exists in all realms of the universe can experience existence in one of only two ways. That would be defined as a long wave cycle and a short wave cycle.

 

[ApotheosisMMC.]

I don't understand it either and perhaps we should take into account even more the warning about the verbosity in this section in relation to this answer, it occurs to me as a possible solution that there is a lack of information-clarification regarding the terms short and long wave cycle, it seems to me that when the term physical long wave cycle is named for the second time in relation to flora-animals, that description would fit better in relation to the mineral kingdom and plants that live for many years so the ethereal contemplation part would be different, as an example there are some among organic portals in relation to individuals with more individualized souls, it could also be that given the latter the answer is correct when naming plants and animals and that the cycle they would experience is named as long wave and physical since the process after their death is quite different.

Regarding the other question of why and how the presence of humans changes reality, I couldn't give you details of what it is exactly, but keep in mind that a mineral like a crystal can go from first density to second density when relating to a human being, there is apparently a certain capacity to assimilate - to be able to perceive in a certain way an even greater degree of consciousness under certain circumstances and in this way increase one's own, although the exact details, if it is more or less like that, is something that I would also like to know.

 

[Moine]

I think, from writing this down, my main question is, is it simple human physical proximity/presence on the planet that changes the cycle for 1st and 2nd density beings, or is it something to do with human consciousness?

No. It's much simpler than that. When you have a bunch of "souls" who drop into manifestation here, being 4D STO self-rejects, they think they "know" what they want, and therefore they "know" what they are doing, but in reality they don't. It causes a lot of chaos, and from that chaos, you get a lot of impetus to try out new things and to "learn".

Species diversification, extinction, and population dynamics within the entirety of the planet's eco-sphere get put on a fast-forward mode, due to the chaos. It's like ramping up the difficulty in a game to Ultra Hard mode, when you have boss characters that swiftly multiply, adapt to the environmental conditions, and proceed to change the basic homeostatic rules of the game, every 10-20 years, based on whims, and then come down to beat your butt, so that you can press the "Retry" button 200,000 times, instead of say 20.

Of course, you have ecosystem dynamics such as gene hybridization (bacteria as one), domestication (ants with mycelium, among others), symbiosis in all of its forms, which get put on hyper-drive due to human manipulation. Your species of chickens, dogs, cats, cattle, swine, horses, sheep, among other things, would not be in existence without our efforts, along with the massive array of selected or spliced vegetable/fruit/grain cultivars. From those efforts, we've basically swept away most of the biomass on this planet and have changed it into a form that benefits us directly, while at the same time affording a nice experience of enslavement, parasitism, abuse and body harvesting for any 2D OP "soul" that wants to experience it. It's a fractal relationship, and once you see it, you won't forget it.

If it was for simple physical presence, well then humans would still be sleeping in trees, eating fruit like monkeys, and they would be hunted down by predators, just like any other species.

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But there's other considerations and intricacies of that little passage from the transcripts which are easily had. For one, if you're at the 3rd grade, have you forgotten the lessons of the 1st and 2nd grades? If not, then what are they?

That's the underlying question. In what ways are human souls, "human"? If you can succinctly answer that, you'll be able to figure out what the nature of reality is. Yes, it's a spiritual reality, for that is what nature is -- from the Latin 'natura' --- connoting essences, dispositions, characters, et.c. --- of the natural world, and not the physical forms taken therein.

 

[msasa79]

Firstly, we could suppose that this implies that if there was no human-soulgroup presence on Earth, then 1st and 2nd density entities would be on a long wave cycle. The C’s said that the difference between the two types of cycle is that a short wave one “involves a duality” and that this duality is what we think of as life and death, the totality of experience being equal between here and 5D. (That’s what they’re referring to in the quote when they use the term “physical/etherial cycle”)

This would mean that if the human-soulgroup wasn’t on Earth, there would be plants and animals, but they wouldn’t die.

Well, at this point, instead of an answer to your questioning, as I don't have a sound one to offer, a suggestion would be to maybe re-analyze your initial 'assumptions' if perhaps they don't limit and obstruct the proper understanding of the situation you're intended to grok.

The thing that caught my attention from the quoted text above is that you equated "duality" as an inherent characteristic of the shortwave cycles with the cycle of life/birth and death.
Is that really so, on what basis have you deduced this equality? I don't recall reading in the C's sessions, or in a Forum discussion, that duality of the shortwave cycles meant that there would be no death as such on a longwave cycles path of growth and development.

I remember only that duality meant that the sum total of experiences is equal for both sides so to speak, for physical and ethereal part of the cycle, although not equal in time as we perceive the time. I didn't get the impression that it was about life and death, in fact first thought that came to mind when reading this was about dreams, where soul or consciouness has experience on more or less purely ethereal or imaginal side of its existence compared to being 'completely' seated in its physical vehicle. And few minutes long dreams may seem like hours of 'usual' bodily experiences.