Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Vulcan59]

FWIW, another 'mic exploding' theory and Israel isolation;

As a newer development, some internet sleuths are positing that Charlie was killed by his own microphone. Not the larger one that he is seen holding in his hand, but a smaller mic taped under his tee-shirt, like people wear in a TV studio. This device was prepared by Mossad (according to this theory) and placed on Charlie by people in his inner circle. It was synchronized to emit its projectile at the same moment as the shot fired by the patsy, Tyler Robinson, from his high-powered rifle on the roof.

Support for this theory is given by the fact that Charlie’s tee-shirt was seen to move up and kind of puff out around his neck at the moment of the shot.

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[gottathink]

FWIW, another 'mic exploding' theory and Israel isolation;

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It’s the same exploding mic story, but it is interesting that other people are coming up with it. Who did you quote?

 

[Benjamin]

After thinking about it, he might have been killed by his lav mic but, I never known smoke to not linger. How can it only exist for one frame? If that video was taken at 24 frames a second, shouldn't it take a bit longer to dissipate then 1/24th of a second?

 

[Ricardo]

Good point , iirc faster detonation means less smoke plus t-shirt is white and would settle back , shortly after CK falls back , so there's not a lot of time for smoke to be visible , and it is a very small amount of plastic explosive. fwiw.

 

[Niall]

It probably isn't 'smoke', but the briefest glimpse of a 'shock wave' that suddenly displaced the air immediately surrounding the mic and was mostly, subsequently, seen in his billowing t-shirt.

 

[Natus Videre]

The mic exploding theory gives more clues as to why they rushed to tamper with evidence immediately after the assassination. Somebody, in fact, a whole team, had to clean up debris aournd Charlie! The shattered necklace, the projectile, bits and pieces of the mic on the floor, Charlie's big mic picking up the explosion, permanent marks (if any?) on the floor due to the explosion. The cleaning operation had to have been even more organized than the murder!

 

[Brewer]

This guy did a great analysis. His conclusions:

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He's saying that we're seeing a cavitation event where Charlie's entire neck and upper torso dramatically expands and deflates in a matter of thousands of a second.
He's saying that the shot was certainly a high powered calibre but there's no way it was taken from the alleged position.
His logic tracks well, but I'm still not sure that that's what we're seeing in this new video.
If TPUSA releases their own footage, we might get an answer, but that doesn't seem likely since it looks like they were involved at some level.
Definitely worth the watch.

Agree on most points except for this one.

He's saying that we're seeing a cavitation event where Charlie's entire neck and upper torso dramatically expands and deflates in a matter of thousands of a second.

He uses ballistic gel blocks to demonstrate the dramatic energy dump and expansion. Gel blocks lack skin, muscle walls and ribcages so its a far from perfect analogue.
I've stalked and shot pigs of all sizes, often at close range in wallows and covered in mud, leaves and sticks, they don't expand like that! It's just a ripple, that's all, if they did expand dramatically all the mud, leaves and sticks would fly off in all directions! Even when hit in the front of the chest and the bullet travels the length of the body without exiting; dumping all it's energy it doesn't do that. I cannot see how the chain and shirt could move that way based on what I've seen in the field. If his shirt did move it would do so with his expanding chest and return with it. Not be pulled upwards into this peak, unless his clavicle or a rib snapped. Finally, its happening in the area less likely to dramatically expand, the upper torso

Shot this large dog fox the other week, 10 meters with my deer rifle, the bullet entered the front of chest at the base of the neck and exited just forward of the diaphragm, initially absorbed similar energy to CK, about 2000 foot pounds, before passing through. Think of those initial wound channels in the ballistic gel, he absorbed that in his chest. He dropped on the spot, no dramatic movements, indeed he would've ballooned momentarily, faster than the eye can see, all the way down to the pelvis but he remained intact. I skinned him, no obvious damage except for 2 bullet holes. The carcass, no broken ribs or vertebrae, if the bullet had exited out of the hindquarters then you would've seen some damage in the form of splitting of the belly from the expansion.

Also his ballistic gel examples uses footage filmed at 1000s of frames per second, the CK video is 30 FPS and takes 2 or 3 frames to cover something that would've occurred in considerably less than one frame. Other than that he's done a good job.

 

[Brewer]

After thinking about it, he might have been killed by his lav mic but, I never known smoke to not linger. How can it only exist for one frame? If that video was taken at 24 frames a second, shouldn't it take a bit longer to dissipate then 1/24th of a second?

I use smokeless powder to reload ammo, it truly is smokeless, barely noticeable.

 

[Brewer]

I know these images have been seen before ad nauseaum, but for some reason I hadn't noticed how utterly weird the shirt movement is at the time of him being hit. Just look at that massive upward movement of the shirt and those 'stripes' – it looks almost like a strong blow of air hit him slightly from underneath! And just a millisecond later the shirt is down again and flat. What the **** does that? This is getting weirder and weirder!

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I took those stills from this video:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1971489126622110114

To me it looks very much like a blunt and slow projectile, not necessarily rounded, square would work. Has to be slow for the frame rate to catch it. It pushes the shirt up before penetrating the fabric and the shirt snaps back to its original position. A set of spring scales hooked to you newest T shirt collar would give some indication the energy involved.

 

[luc]

@Timótheos and I recorded a little tribute song to Iryna & Charlie - if you like it, sharing would be appreciated!

On X:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1972610181579383282

 

[Brewer]

After thinking about it, he might have been killed by his lav mic but, I never known smoke to not linger. How can it only exist for one frame? If that video was taken at 24 frames a second, shouldn't it take a bit longer to dissipate then 1/24th of a second?

I use smokeless powder to reload ammo, it truly is smokeless, barely noticeable.

Twenty or so minutes after replying I looked at that single frame and it looked somewhat like the white vapor after a process called 'dieseling'. Its the process of adding a small quantity of hydrocarbon to the rear of a airgun pellet so when the compressed air is released it ignites the hydrocarbon, considerably increasing the power. A diesel engine operates so

There'd be a bit of noise, not much but no cordite smell and probably no flash and little heat. A highly engineered unit using compressed pure oxygen rather than air would release considerable energy and gases but would be compact. Add a muzzle brake by machining vents in the barrel and you have a reliable and compact device that has little recoil, considerable power, no flash and inflates a shirt for a split second. Thanks

 

[YoYa]

I also believe awkward situation in the memorial was the moment Erika understood the trump was involved and this is the reason for hail of satan, an subconscious response to shock caused but sudden understanding.

Interesting that you mention that! There's often confusion. The gesture of extending the thumb, index finger, and little finger has acquired a negative connotation through pop culture. However, its origin and widespread meaning are quite different. In American Sign Language (ASL), it's the sign for "I love you"- it's an abbreviation for I L Y.

In German Sign Language (DGS),
" I love you" is expressed with a different sign - extending the index and little fingers and placing the hand against the chest.

How it became the satanic salute, though, I don't really know.

And speaking of this - this memorial service was a disgusting ceremony for me - I was truly horrified. When the camera showed the entire hall in a bird's-eye view, I got goosebumps - involuntarily reminded me of Nazi speeches.

And about the loving wife, now a widow and single mother of two children, I can only shake my head - from A to Z, I just shake my head.
Interessant, dass du das erwähnst! Es gibt oft Verwirrung. Die Geste, bei der Daumen, Zeigefinger und kleiner Finger ausgestreckt werden, hat durch die Popkultur eine negative Konnotation bekommen. Ihr Ursprung und ihre weitverbreitete Bedeutung sind jedoch ganz anders. In der Amerikanischen Gebärdensprache (ASL) ist es das Zeichen für "Ich liebe dich“ - es ist eine Abkürzung für I L Y. In der Deutschen Gebärdensprache (DGS) wird "Ich liebe dich“ mit einem anderen Zeichen ausgedrückt – bei dem Zeigefinger und kleiner Finger ausgestreckt und die Hand an die Brust gelegt wird. Wie es zum satanischen Gruss wurde, weiss ich allerdings nicht wirklich. Und da ich schon dabei bin - diese Gedenkfeier war für mich eine widerwärtige Zeremonie - ich war wirklich entsetzt. Als die Kamera den gesamten Saal in der Vogelperspektive zeigte, bekam ich Gänsehaut - unweigerlich musste ich an die Ansprachen der NSDAP denken. Und über die liebende Ehefrau, nun Witwe und alleinerziehende Mutter zweier Kinder, kann ich nur den Kopf schütteln - von A bis Z nur den Kopf schütteln.

 

[christx11]

AI overview:
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But, there's also this, frequently seen expressed by all the Bush family (and no, don't believe University of Texas Hook 'em Horns):

No, not cheering football game - Inauguration photo. Democrats Obama, Clinton, Kerry and Republican Palin pictured doing horn gesture - also rooting for U of Tx? I think not.

This hand sign is the Shaka sign. It is deeply rooted in Hawaiian culture. It became very popular in the 60's hippi culture and it is used everywhere now.

Shaka
The shaka sign is a versatile gesture with various meanings:

• • Greeting and Farewell: A friendly way to say "hello" or "goodbye".
  • Gratitude: To express thanks, often referred to as "shaka mahalo".
  • "Hang Loose": To symbolize a relaxed, laid-back lifestyle.
  • Solidarity and Respect: To show unity and mutual respect.
  • "Right on": To acknowledge something positive or well done.

 

[JEEP]

Interesting and pointed insights from Scott Ritter (pre the mic did it) - 19:44 vid:

Just to reiterate regarding the questionable hand gesture:

And really, why not a gesture that involves the heart and a hug - no resemblance to what's been described as the Satanic salute.

The shaka sign is a versatile gesture with various meanings:

• • Greeting and Farewell: A friendly way to say "hello" or "goodbye".
  • Gratitude: To express thanks, often referred to as "shaka mahalo".
  • "Hang Loose": To symbolize a relaxed, laid-back lifestyle.
  • Solidarity and Respect: To show unity and mutual respect.
  • "Right on": To acknowledge something positive or well done.

No way I believe the Bushes were communicating any of the positive aspects listed above. Showing unity and mutual respect to their own kind - that I can believe. Remember that George H. W. himself said that if people knew what they'd had really done, they'd be hung from lampposts!

 

[Kika]

How it became the satanic salute, though, I don't really know.

The first musician to make famous the "Satan's horns" salute was the lead singer of the metal band Black Sabbath, Ronnie James Dio.
The previous lead singer Ozzy Osbourne had a habit of greeting the audience at concerts with the "V" sign.

He had known this sign since childhood. His Italian grandmother taught him that this sign was used to ward off evil spirits (demons, bad luck and other evil forces) and bring good luck. (In other words, an apotropaic symbol to protect a person from evil beings. In this context, it is used by the Mediterraneans (Spaniards, Italians, Greeks...). Here on the Adriatic, when wishing for a good catch, fishermen say; "horns to the fisherman", which is a kind of counterpart to the saying "break a leg" for actors and dancers.)

When he first stepped on stage, Dio remembered his grandmother and wanted to invoke good energy that would help him drive away fear and great nervousness.
Very quickly, this sign became a greeting and accepted among all fans of hard rock music and metal. Many have taken it as a sign of allegiance to the devil.

How this sign ("Satan's horns") became the sign for "I love you" I don't know.