Are there more than two stars in the solar system?

[pkostov2]

Existing Infrared Sky Surveys are observing at least two distinct objects, that present itself as brown dwarf stars in our vicinity.
One of them is almost on the ecliptic, on the edge of Orion, gemini and Taurus constellations. The other one is on the opposite side in the Corona Borealis, that is above Libra, constellation.
Unless direct question have been asked we are just assuming there is only two stars in the Solar System.
I would like to ask the Cs : Are there more than two stars in the Solar system?
The attache images are obtained using "Aladin Sky Atlas" - "Aladin is an interactive sky atlas allowing the user to visualize digitized astronomical images or full surveys..."

 

[Cosmos]

Existing Infrared Sky Surveys are observing at least two distinct objects, that present itself as brown dwarf stars in our vicinity.

What is the reasoning behind saying “that present itself as brown dwarf stars in our vicinity“? Do you think that could be the case, if so, how and why? Are you for example a professional in the field? Or is someone else suggesting that, if so, who and/or what is the source of thinking that way?

 

[pkostov2]

What is the reasoning behind saying “that present itself as brown dwarf stars in our vicinity“? Do you think that could be the case, if so, how and why? Are you for example a professional in the field? Or is someone else suggesting that, if so, who and/or what is the source of thinking that way?

By observing many infrared objects, both classified and unclassified, You will see the difference between the planets, brown dwarfs in pairs and free float brown dwarfs.
Just for illustration will attach some. Please, note there are much more.

 

[axj]

One of them is almost on the ecliptic, on the edge of Orion, gemini and Taurus constellations. The other one is on the opposite side in the Corona Borealis, that is above Libra, constellation.

Being in the ecliptic is a good start, but how do you know whether any of the brown dwarfs you posted are in the solar system? What are their names and where are the pictures from?

You seem to be unaware that the Cassiopaeans already gave the orbital parameters of the brown dwarf that orbits our Sun. This is currently being discussed again in this thread:

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Thread 'Computational modelling of the companion star and its interaction with Sol'

Jun 28, 2013

After reading some of the transcripts I found it interesting to model the influence of the companion star on the solar system. This will include the Oort cloud traversal and interaction with the asteroids. If the N-body problem will be implemented satisfactorily, I intend to implement some of the ideas of the electric universe if applicable to the problem presented.

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[pkostov2]

Being in the ecliptic is a good start, but how do you know whether any of the brown dwarfs you posted are in the solar system? What are their names and where are the pictures from?

You seem to be unaware that the Cassiopaeans already gave the orbital parameters of the brown dwarf that orbits our Sun. This is currently being discussed again in this thread:

T

Thread 'Computational modelling of the companion star and its interaction with Sol'

Jun 28, 2013

After reading some of the transcripts I found it interesting to model the influence of the companion star on the solar system. This will include the Oort cloud traversal and interaction with the asteroids. If the N-body problem will be implemented satisfactorily, I intend to implement some of the ideas of the electric universe if applicable to the problem presented.

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Only the two brown dwarf objects I reffer are exhibiting comet like tails. They are similar in visiul size an bigger than any one else. Both objects are present in the sky surveys in more than one position, that means they were seen in motion. The time of the original plates in different position is giving speed and trajectory. None of those are officially classified as celestial bodies.

Pictures are from Sky Surveys through free service of Aladin Sky Atlas. Please, check the raw data and form your own conclusion.
The point here is that , to my knowledge, the question: "Are there more than 2 stars in the solar system?" was not asked.

The orbital parameters of the two bodies is another subject. I would consider it secondary. Since a possible second companian would create the three body problem in orbital mechanics. Note the position opposite to one another would suggest orbital synchronicity.
"Unlike the two-body problem, the three-body problem has no general closed-form solution, meaning there is no explicit formula for the positions of the bodies. When three bodies orbit each other, the resulting dynamical system is chaotic for most initial conditions. Thus, the only way to predict the motions of the bodies is to estimate them using numerical methods."

 

[axj]

The calculated location of the brown dwarf is within 2-5 degrees of the ecliptic, either at the end of Libra or already in Scorpius. It is currently about 250-300 AU away and we suspect that images of it have been censored out of the infrared surveys. The brown dwarf would apparently be pretty easy to spot in the infrared and with its still well-noticeable movement.

It is probably the same with the 3600 years comet cluster where the largest comet is the size of dwarf planet Ceres (900 miles). The comet cluster is in probably even more likely to be censored since it is still on the way to us, while the brown dwarf already had its closest approach around 1680. According to the C's, the comet cluster would first be seen not far from the location of the Magellanic Clouds.

 

[pkostov2]

The calculated location of the brown dwarf is within 2-5 degrees of the ecliptic, either at the end of Libra or already in Scorpius. It is currently about 250-300 AU away and we suspect that images of it have been censored out of the infrared surveys. The brown dwarf would apparently be pretty easy to spot in the infrared and with its still well-noticeable movement.

It is probably the same with the 3600 years comet cluster where the largest comet is the size of dwarf planet Ceres (900 miles). The comet cluster is in probably even more likely to be censored since it is still on the way to us, while the brown dwarf already had its closest approach around 1680. According to the C's, the comet cluster would first be seen not far from the location of the Magellanic Clouds.

The censoring of the IR images were done in three phases.
First in the 60s the original plates were phisically destructed, this story was recently resurfaced in the interview of the astronomer that found 10 000 UAP in stationary orbit ove nuclear instalations before we have satalites. Luckyly few survived and are the basis of the images I post.
Second all silver plates based telescopes were replaced by flawed digital infrared technology. The most advanced IR digital devices redily available are working up to 950 nm. The brown dwarf would be seen over 1500 nm range. They are practically invisible for professional telescopes on earth. Except may be for those that are with thightly controlled access.
And third the newest available astrophotograph are replacing the oldest remains in the public sky atlases as google sky etc., automatically This is my personal experience. I have previous screenshot in GoogleSky showing a 4th star in Centauri system. Through paied telescope service I have made IR photo to proveits existance. The next morning the Google Sky replaced the original with my new "IR" photo that do not show the brown dwarf.

 

[Gaby]

Strictly speaking, there's only ONE star in the solar system.

 

[pkostov2]

Strictly speaking, there's only ONE star in the solar system.

Thank You for the remark.
Then the more precise question would be: Are there more than 3 celestial bodies in the solar system that considering they emit energy significantly more than they reflect, have the egnough mass and size such that they could be therefore classified as stars under a broad standart?

 

[axj]

The censoring of the IR images were done in three phases.
First in the 60s the original plates were phisically destructed, this story was recently resurfaced in the interview of the astronomer that found 10 000 UAP in stationary orbit ove nuclear instalations before we have satalites. Luckyly few survived and are the basis of the images I post.
Second all silver plates based telescopes were replaced by flawed digital infrared technology. The most advanced IR digital devices redily available are working up to 950 nm. The brown dwarf would be seen over 1500 nm range. They are practically invisible for professional telescopes on earth. Except may be for those that are with thightly controlled access.
And third the newest available astrophotograph are replacing the oldest remains in the public sky atlases as google sky etc., automatically This is my personal experience. I have previous screenshot in GoogleSky showing a 4th star in Centauri system. Through paied telescope service I have made IR photo to proveits existance. The next morning the Google Sky replaced the original with my new "IR" photo that do not show the brown dwarf.

This is interesting and would be even more helpful if you can provide the sources - otherwise it is just claims that cannot be verified. Do you have a background in astronomy?

Thank You for the remark.
Then the more precise question would be: Are there more than 3 celestial bodies in the solar system that considering they emit energy significantly more than they reflect, have the egnough mass and size such that they could be therefore classified as stars under a broad standart?

I think that the C's would have mentioned it if there is more than one brown dwarf in the solar system. The solar companion topic has been brought up many times over 30 years. And it has been always "the" companion, not "a companion" in what they said.

They did mention three undiscovered planets in the outer solar system, the largest of which ("Bikalamanar") has a diameter of 70,000 km - much bigger than Neptune (49,000 km), but smaller than Saturn (116,000 km). Based on its given composition (hydrogen, ammonia), it has about 15% of the mass of Jupiter.

 

[Wandering Star]

We can barely (actually there are only clues) prove that our system is binary, so who knows if there is a third body out there.

In any case, I remembered the following paragraph from a session and that when C's transmit there are sometimes several levels.

I just remembered the triple bad day for the wicked and then also:

July 19, 1997

Q: What about the siren song?

A: Greek mythology.

Q: I know that. What about it? What do the sirens represent?

A: Laura, my dear, if you really want to reveal "many beautiful and amazing things," all you need to do is remember the triad, the trilogy, the trinity, and look always for the triplicative connecting clue profile. Connect the threes... do not rest until you have found three beautifully balancing meanings!!

Q: So, in everything there are three aspects?

A: And why? Because it is the realm of the three that you occupy. In order to possess the keys to the next level, just master the Third Man Theme, then move on with grace and anticipation.