Mass Shooting at Bondi Beach, Sydney, targets Jews celebrating Hanukkah

[Fluffy]

I'm not so sure it's AI.

In this screenshot from the original interview, you can see that he has two streams of 'blood' running beneath his nose. He's also wearing a dark grey shirt which has words on it that you can just barely see the tops of. He also has blue or green eyes.

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In the low quality photo from X, you can see a guy sitting on the ground wearing a similarly coloured t-shirt but nothing else is of much help. But notice the red flags in the background and the SUV with the strong pattern.

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In this photo that was turned into a meme you have all five together: the flags, the patterned SUV the grey t-shirt and the two streams of 'blood' beneath his nose and blue or green eyes. The 'blood' looks redder, i think, because it hasn't dried yet.

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Why would you get AI to include the flags and the SUV?

Have you seen some of the AI videos getting around? Don’t forget it has access to almost every picture ever taken that’s uploaded online. If it’s looking to be authentic as possible then flags and a car might be just a good looking addition.

Check this out for reference. If we didn’t know better we’d just believe what we see.

 

[Approaching Infinity]

Two survivors who were in the crowd were interviewed:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001320304727990359

Bondi survivor Vanessa Miller was separated from her three-year-old daughter and pinned down by gunfire. She told @Erin_Molan that she tried to grab the gun of a critically injured officer to suppress the terrorists, but other officers—rather than returning fire themselves—held her back.“These police officers were hiding behind a car... I tried to grab one of their guns. Another one grabbed me and said 'no.' I hope they are hearing this. You are weak. You could have saved so many more people’s lives. They were just watching this all happen, holding me back.”

Two of the cops, possibly at least one of whom was returning fire from the direction of the crowd, were shot and are currently recovering in hospital.

According to this article:
-police responded "less than 30 seconds after the massacre began, and returned fire ... four minutes into the rampage." This matches what the long video shows, with return fire starting after 3+ minutes
-"The new footage [seen by Financial Review but not available to the public, as they have "not received permission from the video's owner to release it"] shows that at least one officer started moving through open ground towards the Akrams as soon as the shooting began, before heavy fire from the bridge forced him to take cover behind a car. It also shows three more police officers heading west along Campbell Parade to engage the gunmen in a firefight that has not yet been seen in publicly available footage."
-the shooting lasted a total of 6 minutes and 10 seconds; cops were only equipped with handguns
-"Unlike previously seen footage, this footage shows the entirety of the attack. In view are the assailants’ car, the bridge where their rampage begins and ends, Archer Park where Jewish victims were shot down and Campbell Parade, where three police officers first engaged with the Akrams."
-it looks like 4 police officers were on patrol at the celebration at the time the shooting started
-"Sajid, identified by his cream-coloured pants, steps out of the vehicle first from the passenger side. He walks to the front of the car, drapes a black, homemade ISIS flag across the windscreen and grabs two long-barrelled weapons, placing one next to the car."
-a police van arrives at 6:43, approx. 1 minute after the first shot. Naveed shoots at the van, hits it four times.
-3.5 minutes after the first shot, more police have arrived on the beach, and several of them begin advancing along the parade, followed by several beachgoers. One of the officers aims and starts shooting his handgun at Naveed, who immediately ducks and then returns fire.
-at 4:47, the Chad plainclothes officer shoots 3 shots from the other side of the bridge, the second shot of which appears to kill Sajid. The first officer to have shot then fires another shot. At this point, Naveed is being shot at from 2 directions. A third officer has now gotten closer and also shoots at Naveed. It's unclear who shoots the final shot bringing Naveed down, possibly the same plainclothes guy.
-"Another civilian, sheltering with Officer C [the first officer to start shooting at the two] by the black car, points out the new man on the bridge. Officer C aims at the man and fires, appearing to mistake him for one of the assailants. The man ducks, and the bullet misses him. This is the final shot of the day. There were 114 bullets fired in total, 93 of those by Naveed and Sajid, with the remainder by police."
-"Fifteen innocent bystanders were killed during the attack, as well as Sajid. As of today, 22 people remain in hospital, and three are in a critical condition, with six more critical but stable. Two officers were injured during the attack, it is unclear if those seen in the footage were among them. Due to the quality of the footage and the risk of misidentification, the Financial Review has chosen not to attempt to identify which police officers were injured during the attack."

 

[Ian]

My guess is that the Ministry of Internal Affairs (which also means the NSW Police) and the government were informed by their intelligence service, but that the coordination and organization of the police was poor and such undertakings should have been carried out by the special police if they even have such a unit... As for the Mossad notifying the Australian Intelligence Service... possible... but even if they did not (even if I think they did) they are still using the situation for political purposes and that is the only thing I'm 100% sure. I also look at this event as a chain reaction which has a mulitple purpose. We have seen that there were , with this attack, 3 attacks(?) in Australia in last few months and the conclusion for all of them is that Iran is behind them. Purposes were of political nature mostly imo. We saw that the Iranian amassador was expelled from the country and that Iran-Australia relationship weakened,

Iran Has Not Closed Its Embassy in Australia - WANA

Baghaei stressed that contrary to some claims, Iran has not shut down its embassy in Australia, adding that it was the Australian government..

wanaen.com

Australia expels Iranian ambassador over antisemitic attacks

Australia orders Iran's ambassador to leave the country following intelligence services' allegations.

www.bbc.com

while Israeli-Australia relationship is getting stronger. Israel is using this situation to spread awareness about it or to try to change people's awareness to show them that anti-Semitism is a great evil, that Iran is to blame for it and that therefore what Israel is doing or will do (if it is a chain reaction as I said) is justified. That's how it seems to me at least. So it wouldn't surprise me that Mossad was the hand behind it. Does someone share a simillar opinion or much different?

 

[Jones]

This is what the mother of the suspected killer has to say

Mother of Sydney shooter: Anyone would wish to have son like mine, he’s a good boy

Twenty-four-year-old Naveed Akram is accused of joining his father in a mass shooting at a Hanukkah event on Sydney's Bondi Beach that left 15 people, including a child, dead. He is currently in police custody.

www.indiatoday.in

It's curious that she doesn't mention her husband.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Something that caught my attention is an info that I posted here, about two pedestrians fighting one of those two guys. This action takes place earlier than all the rest: this "scene" is surrealist: two elder people successfully fighting one of those two guys, around a car, doors open, with an Isis flag on the shield.

This footage left me perplex, because:

• We have been provided with endless high res footages, of other footages - "cartridges" popping up.
• This scene took place prior to all the "sequences" that we know of. This sequence suggests a reasonable "range" of events. Many "analysis" that people carry on (angles, bullet sounds etc), would be applicable to this sequence which takes place prior.
• This footage suggests a very early moment. And one of the guys is already down on the ground. I mean, what is this?! Usually, the starting point of those "attacks" never feature an early "failure" like this one.
• Overall, the available footages don't show the exact starting point of all the "attack". We don't know how it unfolded.
• And why didn't the medias emphasize about the Isis flag? We hear about that, one week later, but it was obviously present.

I see this dashcam footage as "revealing". I tried to stick my finger on something. Its late appearance, and the content of it.

That elderly couple lost that fight from what I read. They were the first two victims.

When I saw the footage I couldn't help but wonder how the two active shooters went from that very public execution of 2 elderly people in broad daylight to then take up position on the footbridge without the cops immediately descending on them.

 

[palestine]

That elderly couple lost that fight from what I read. They were the first two victims.

When I saw the footage I couldn't help but wonder how the two active shooters went from that very public execution of 2 elderly people in broad daylight to then take up position on the footbridge without the cops immediately descending on them.

After some thoughts, I think that... an adjective came to mind: "erratic". Could be what I wanted to highlight.

 

[Niall]

That elderly couple lost that fight from what I read. They were the first two victims.

When I saw the footage I couldn't help but wonder how the two active shooters went from that very public execution of 2 elderly people in broad daylight to then take up position on the footbridge without the cops immediately descending on them.

Here's the footage being referred to above:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2000861226188816594

So Sajid Akram, the father, was nearly stopped right at the start. In fact, the two interceptors - a husband and wife - managed to get the gun off him! Sadly, Akram pulled a second gun out of his car and shot dead Boris and Sofia Gurman.

Note that the ISIS flag had by then been draped across the windshield, clearly intended to attribute a 'jihadist motive' to the attack, and strongly suggesting that the Akrams have prior contact and association with one or another faction of 'Jihad, Inc.'

Sure enough...

Bondi terrorists travelled to Philippines for 'military-style training', security sources say​

Father-son gunmen Sajid and Naveed Akram travelled to the Philippines to receive "military-style training" in the month before they killed 15 people at a Hanukkah celebration at Bondi Beach, security sources have confirmed.

The revelation comes after the ABC reported Naveed Akram, 24, had longstanding links to members of Australia's pro-Islamic State (IS) network — including to notorious jihadist spiritual leader Wisam Haddad and convicted IS youth recruiter Youssef Uweinat.

Through a lawyer, Mr Haddad has said he "vehemently denies any knowledge of or involvement in the shootings that took place at Bondi Beach".

Investigators are now examining the Akrams' ties to an international jihadist network, after discovering the pair travelled to Manila in early November, according to officials briefed on the investigation.

Naveed and Sajid Akram then journeyed to the southern Philippines and underwent militant training, said a senior counter-terrorism official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The Philippines Bureau of Immigration confirmed the pair arrived in the Philippines from Australia on November 1, declaring the southern city of Davao as their destination.

"They left the country on November 28, 2025, on a connecting flight from Davao to Manila, with Sydney as their final destination," Bureau of Immigration spokesperson Dana Sandoval said.

Ms Sandoval said Sajid Akram entered the country on an Indian passport, while his son, Naveed Akram, entered on an Australian passport.

Davao is the capital of Mindanao, the southern island of the Philippines, which has been a hotbed for Islamic militants since the 1990s.

Security sources have not confirmed the pair's exact locations and movements in the southern Philippines.

Australia's intelligence agency, ASIO, had investigated Naveed Akram in 2019 over his associations with members of a Sydney-based IS terrorist cell, the ABC revealed yesterday.

A senior security source said Naveed Akram, then 18, displayed "indications of intent" and associations of concern that were investigated by ASIO in 2019, but further enquiries were not deemed to be needed at the time.

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese told the 7.30 program on Monday night that ASIO found "no evidence" during a six-month investigation that either the father or son had been radicalised.

At least one of the gunmen who killed 15 people in Sunday's Bondi Beach terrorist attack was known to authorities as a follower of a notorious Sydney pro-Islamic State cleric, the ABC can reveal.

The men were not on a terrorism watchlist in the lead-up to the attack, nor was Sajid Akram — a licensed gun owner — prevented from legally accessing firearms.

Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke was asked on Radio National today whether the pair's travel to the Philippines had come to the attention of Australia's national security agencies, but he did not directly answer the question.

Mr Burke said that since ASIO's 2019 investigation into Naveed Akram, "there was a radical change in the risk profile of that individual".

The ABC revealed on Monday that two Islamic State flags were found in the Akrams' car at Bondi Beach, and investigators believed the pair had sworn allegiance to the terrorist group.

 

[Liliea]

while Israeli-Australia relationship is getting stronger. Israel is using this situation to spread awareness about it or to try to change people's awareness to show them that anti-Semitism is a great evil, that Iran is to blame for it and that therefore what Israel is doing or will do (if it is a chain reaction as I said) is justified. That's how it seems to me at least. So it wouldn't surprise me that Mossad was the hand behind it. Does someone share a simillar opinion or much different?

An opinion piece from Dialogue Works, by Laith Marouf, journalist and pro-Palestinian activist in Syria. Nima, ever the friendly host, asks him about the event in Australia. Here is part of the transcript of his response min 5:10:

There was a an attack on Bondi Beach in Australia and in the aftermath you see the Israeli government basically Nadia and his administration putting the blame on Hezbollah, Hamas and Iran and looking at what has happened in Australia. How what is your take? Is that a false flag operation? Is that you know related to ISIS and these people who are somehow cooperating with the Zionist in the region? What is your take on that?

There are a few things we need to bear in mind when analysing what happened at Bondi Beach in Sydney. First of all, this attack was directed against a celebration organised by Shabbad or Kabad, an extremist organisation, you know, ultra-fascist and Jewish supremacist, to which Smoltrich and Ben Givir belong. It is the most extremist religious Zionist sect. And among those killed in this attack was the leader of Kabad Shabbad in Australia. He was a man, a rabbi who took Australian citizens to the front lines in Gaza and participated with them in prayers to kill Palestinians. You can see this rabbi's tweets and posts calling all Palestinians ‘sons of Gaza’ and ‘amalacs’. Therefore, this was not a random attack. Okay.

I'm not sure it's a false flag operation. Many people who are pro-Palestine have decided to label it as such.
Well, if it is a false flag operation, it is usually directed against innocent people, and specifically against non-Jews, in order to turn the majority of the population in Western countries against Palestinians or Arab or Muslim peoples. But the fact that this attack specifically targeted a Shabbad event on the beach and that the Shabbad rabbi in Australia was killed in this attack makes me, you know, think.
I cannot consider this a false flag operation. It is very specific. And if it were a false flag operation, it would be a very costly one. The Zionists basically had to sacrifice one of their most important people to achieve it.

 

[palestine]

@Liliea

...you know, ultra-fascist and Jewish supremacist, to which Smoltrich and Ben Givir belong. It is the most extremist religious Zionist sect. And among those killed in this attack was the leader of Kabad Shabbad in Australia.

This info could be easily confirmed. If true, the attack was meant to eliminate that person?

This would explain the amateurism of those two shooters.

So, two things to look at:

- the Bondi beach event was framed into a ultra-Zionist package (something we don't see, unless we know)
- this guy was a very nefarious person

 

[Ruth]

Two survivors who were in the crowd were interviewed:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001320304727990359

Two of the cops, possibly at least one of whom was returning fire from the direction of the crowd, were shot and are currently recovering in hospital.

According to this article:
-police responded "less than 30 seconds after the massacre began, and returned fire ... four minutes into the rampage." This matches what the long video shows, with return fire starting after 3+ minutes
-"The new footage [seen by Financial Review but not available to the public, as they have "not received permission from the video's owner to release it"] shows that at least one officer started moving through open ground towards the Akrams as soon as the shooting began, before heavy fire from the bridge forced him to take cover behind a car. It also shows three more police officers heading west along Campbell Parade to engage the gunmen in a firefight that has not yet been seen in publicly available footage."
-the shooting lasted a total of 6 minutes and 10 seconds; cops were only equipped with handguns
-"Unlike previously seen footage, this footage shows the entirety of the attack. In view are the assailants’ car, the bridge where their rampage begins and ends, Archer Park where Jewish victims were shot down and Campbell Parade, where three police officers first engaged with the Akrams."
-it looks like 4 police officers were on patrol at the celebration at the time the shooting started
-"Sajid, identified by his cream-coloured pants, steps out of the vehicle first from the passenger side. He walks to the front of the car, drapes a black, homemade ISIS flag across the windscreen and grabs two long-barrelled weapons, placing one next to the car."
-a police van arrives at 6:43, approx. 1 minute after the first shot. Naveed shoots at the van, hits it four times.
-3.5 minutes after the first shot, more police have arrived on the beach, and several of them begin advancing along the parade, followed by several beachgoers. One of the officers aims and starts shooting his handgun at Naveed, who immediately ducks and then returns fire.
-at 4:47, the Chad plainclothes officer shoots 3 shots from the other side of the bridge, the second shot of which appears to kill Sajid. The first officer to have shot then fires another shot. At this point, Naveed is being shot at from 2 directions. A third officer has now gotten closer and also shoots at Naveed. It's unclear who shoots the final shot bringing Naveed down, possibly the same plainclothes guy.
-"Another civilian, sheltering with Officer C [the first officer to start shooting at the two] by the black car, points out the new man on the bridge. Officer C aims at the man and fires, appearing to mistake him for one of the assailants. The man ducks, and the bullet misses him. This is the final shot of the day. There were 114 bullets fired in total, 93 of those by Naveed and Sajid, with the remainder by police."
-"Fifteen innocent bystanders were killed during the attack, as well as Sajid. As of today, 22 people remain in hospital, and three are in a critical condition, with six more critical but stable. Two officers were injured during the attack, it is unclear if those seen in the footage were among them. Due to the quality of the footage and the risk of misidentification, the Financial Review has chosen not to attempt to identify which police officers were injured during the attack."

One thing you should never do is try and grab a police officer's gun (wounded or not). In fact, if I were to guess, not even another police officer would be so foolish as to do that. This woman could have got into serious trouble if she'd been successful in that regard, and may have end up getting shot herself. It's a really bad idea to interfere in a tense situation like that, especially as a civillian.

This woman is very "sus" in my opinion, trying to make out the police response as 'inadequate" when they have protocols and proceedures which they HAVE to follow. It's a deliberate attempt to turn the public against the police force, where the only response is to turn them into paramilitary.

It reminds me of all the "staged" media responses/commentators from people who were at the Charlie Kirk assassination. Normal people are usually in shock and don't have very much that is coherant to say. My first question is: What is she trying to do and why is she being promoted? Very "sus" to me and not even Australian.

 

[Ruth]

@Liliea



This info could be easily confirmed. If true, the attack was meant to eliminate that person?

This would explain the amateurism of those two shooters.

So, two things to look at:

- the Bondi beach event was framed into a ultra-Zionist package (something we don't see, unless we know)
- this guy was a very nefarious person

To be honest, if it was a false flag, targetting Jewish people, in particular certain hard line ones, seems to be right up Israel's alley. It comes across as more "serious".

The only people that Israel seems to value at the moment are zionists who have money and influence, those in the shadows, (mossad) and those with media presence or ability. They don't value the lives or ordinary people, or even those who "play a part".

 

[seek10]

It's curious that she doesn't mention her husband.

Good point, unless they are divorced or separated or not in good terms. The video footage is somewhat confusing. Here is one video on that line.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001279266189615362

 

[Sol Logos]

The police usually uses drones for all kinds of operations, in this example to observe attackers and to coordinate ground units. So it could be the police. I think that is the most probable case...

Haven’t looked into whether a drone was used then but there’s a lot of drones now used to spot sharks, operated by Surf Lifesaving Club - in this case Bondi’s. Being a Sunday afternoon, and a hot day, if operating at any time, that would be a likely candidate. But what’s odd is releasing it publicly so quickly. An organisation like that, funded by local government among others, wouldn’t be uploading footage to social media on a whim.

 

[Sol Logos]

Good point, unless they are divorced or separated or not in good terms. The video footage is somewhat confusing. Here is one video on that line.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2001279266189615362

There’s a lot of odd things there:

- the guy in a white shirt and black cap is completely unconcerned that there’s a gun pointing at his general direction. That’s not normal.
- that man points at something and the shooter appears to follows his lead. That’s strange.
- the shooter immediately turns around, looks at something behind and slightly above him and lowers his weapon
- then looking down it’s looks like he also reaches for something in his belt bag (not clear what). Could he be reloading? Why point an unloaded gun when out of ammo?
- he then looks up as if something is now directly above him and higher than before. Was that a drone? Was he having a hallucination? If he was under “mind control was the pointing a type of signal? Not saying there’s clear evidence of this take
- right after that happens, the shooter (the father of the guy on the bridge) gets jumped on by the another man in a white shirt (but no cap) who takes his gun. That is the claimed “hero” (not saying he was a plant but open to the possibility)
- right after that the hero scene, the man with the black cap that pointed before is captured running towards the father/ shooter and throwing something at him. He puts himself directly in the line of fire again from the son but is still unconcerned. Again very odd.
- later it appears that both men in white shirts are shot. The one with the black cap stumbles away presumably in shock from an initial shot and then another perhaps another to his leg when he falls.
- But again, he was behind a tree and if shot there with some cover why stumble out where there is no cover and risk more likely getting shot again?

There’s always the he is “not all there” explanation but either way something is not quite right.

 

[Rhythmik]

When I saw the footage I couldn't help but wonder how the two active shooters went from that very public execution of 2 elderly people in broad daylight to then take up position on the footbridge without the cops immediately descending on them.

In Australia if there is ever an emergency call with even just the mention of a "gun" then a LOT of police get to the area FAST.