Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

Oxajil said:
Iran is probably going to be trickier to overthrow because it's armed, which may be why it wasn't first on the list.
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Agreed.
A Jay said:
Do you watch NewsReal? If not, I recommend it. That's pretty much what gets discussed every show.

The gist is those countries are vital because of their locations and resources. The Empire needs to control them in order to contain Russia and, more importantly, China.
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Agreed.

I guess what I'm saying is that I understand the 3D psychopathic motivations of Mossad in terms of their plan to create an unwinable "War on Terror," take resources from Aghanistan, Iraq and Venezuela. Hem in China and Russia.

I do listen to NewsReal, not all the time but when I can. I do appreciate the perspective it offers--I do feel much more knowledgeable for it.

I think I do understand the 3D motivations of Empire going on, but what I'm wondering what the motivations of 4D STS for Israel/Mossad to take Iran. Israel will most likely be destroyed. Is that what 4D STS wants or is just 4D STS's handicap of not seeing what they don't want to see? So far we know 4D STS plan is to cause chaos and suffering (food for 4D STS), try to eliminate as many souled people from the gene pool, and I'm not sure what else.

Ricardo said:
Also if i recall correctly there´s also a portal in middle east similar to the one near Kiev .
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This is interesting to me. With the oncoming Wave, when the invisible will be more visible, why is wide-spread destruction in this particular area plus for 4D STS? Or is the destruction just a consequence of the portal? Why have the Jews been the pawns in the attempted take-over of the world as the victims in WW2 and now as the instigators of a potential WW3? It just seems a perfectly planned shit storm. Like what were the Rothschild's instructions before he emerged from the underground?

And why did Nick Rockefeller say that conquest of all these countries would lead to chipping of all of us. I'm sure that he was not "read in" on the entire plan but there seems to be something salient in this drawn-out Imperial conquest to somehow get us all under control.

Or maybe we'll just get another plague and the "chip" will be the vaccine. Anyways, happy thoughts indeed.
 
Oxajil said:
@candasiri, Iran is probably going to be trickier to overthrow because it's armed, which may be why it wasn't first on the list.

A few more thoughts:

So far, we can say that, (based on the C's) (1) Trump did a backroom deal with the Iranians to assassinate Soleimani, to keep Israel and the Deep State happy, (2) 'Midnight Hammer' (US' attack on nuclear facilities) in June last year was probably mostly for show; and (3) (based on the C's) Trump is being threatened by Israel. Based on this, I think most of what Trump says is for show, it's to please both the Deep State and Israel. If there'll be an attack, given his track record then it'll feed the beast but in the most benign way available to him. Maybe that's just my cope and it's difficult to say what he'll do under a lot of pressure from warmongers. But I think Trump has some influence and that influence seems to be tempering the most destructive impulses of pretty literal demons so he can make better deals.
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Yes, I think Iran is a whole different and more difficult ballgame for the crazies than all the easy targets they have thus far taken out. I wouldn’t be surprised that they are overestimating themselves there especially in the long run.

And in regards to Trump, I also think what you are saying is a real and possibly even likely possibility. The thing is, even if that should still be the case, keeping the crazies at bay in such ways is quite the gamble. But thus far Trump seems to have been able to avoid the worst in the past in similar situations. So perhaps he can do it again. And yes, I also tend to think that Trump still tries to temper the most demonic ideas and is likely not to start any real big war with ground troops and such. In that way Trump might still be very different to almost any president before him.

At the same time I‘m not so sure now: at the very least Trump definitely seems to have become some sort of mixed bag, that while he might wants to reduce the craziest tendencies, he sort of seems to have thrown his weight strongly behind the idea of continuing and even increasing imperialism.

And I do think that Trump is dangerously naive and uniformed about many things, especially in geopolitics, and that this is combined with a similar dangerous tendency to be easily lulled in by Psychopaths with nice and supporting talk towards him.
 
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Actually Krasukha electronic warfare weapon cant jamm the internet. Krasukha 2, Krasukha 4 and Moskva are working against radars and other em frequencies but cant affect ground celular network or cable network. Needless to say that by jamming cellular network internet Iranians wouldn't be able to use their mobile phones.

But, it can jamm GPS and thus Starlink, at least to some degree, according to Russians. There is no proof stil that it works. Also, Krasukhas and Moskva are not that new, I wouldn't exclude that Russia have something more powerful now.
 
One of the ideas I had a while ago and now again:

Could it be that Trump actually wants to do the Iran thing quickly not only to keep the crazies at bay and avoid the worst but also in order to make Israel more vulnerable? I mean, if you push it to make it fast, and things are not quite in place to defend “allies“ in the region, this sort of gives Iran a better chance to take Israel out, since they obviously will be the main target besides maybe some US bases? Might just be wishful thinking on my part though. I would bet more on wishful thinking on my part there.
 
Another possible crucial and important thing to consider is what an US president once said, paraphrasing:

“Israel is OUR unsinkable aircraft carrier in the region.“

So, it might be worth to consider the idea (especially today) that Israel is in fact more like the extension of the empire rather than the other way around. So, in a way, Israel might be more or less inseparable/indistinguishable from the empire itself and might in fact be more or less the same thing today.

Viewed in that light, rhetoric suggesting something to the contrary is probably misleading, such as the idea that “all“ or significant amounts of the evil stems/come from Israel alone, rather than the more accurate description that it probably stems from the empire as a whole of which Israel is just one arms of ITS OWN body. I’m also reminded that Putin repeatedly stressed that what is happening in the Israel/Gaza region (especially recently) is a consequence of what the US is doing.

There is also the possibility that Trump and/or some in his cabinet are for the empire thing to a large extent and that they would have litte against (and might even favor) that Israel doesn’t play any significant role anymore. Also, as suggested earlier, the empire has many “Israel“ states in the region now, so that they might not even need that formally one and only unsinkable aircraft carrier country in the region anymore.
 
Cosmos said:
One of the ideas I had a while ago and now again:

Could it be that Trump actually wants to do the Iran thing quickly not only to keep the crazies at bay and avoid the worst but also in order to make Israel more vulnerable? I mean, if you push it to make it fast, and things are not quite in place to defend “allies“ in the region, this sort of gives Iran a better chance to take Israel out, since they obviously will be the main target besides maybe some US bases? Might just be wishful thinking on my part though. I would bet more on wishful thinking on my part there.
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Abandon hope, all ye who enter here
 
Cosmos said:
One of the ideas I had a while ago and now again:

Could it be that Trump actually wants to do the Iran thing quickly not only to keep the crazies at bay and avoid the worst but also in order to make Israel more vulnerable? I mean, if you push it to make it fast, and things are not quite in place to defend “allies“ in the region, this sort of gives Iran a better chance to take Israel out, since they obviously will be the main target besides maybe some US bases? Might just be wishful thinking on my part though. I would bet more on wishful thinking on my part there.
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I've dispensed with any ideas of "4D chess" etc. when it comes to Trump. He's a tool whose job it is to usher in global chaos. Not to act as a white knight come to save us all from the "swamp". As someone said: "the guy promised to drain the swamp and instead he turned it into a protected nature reserve". :lol:
 
Cosmos said:
One of the problems Trump seems to have is that he thinks he is the fiddle player while in reality he is the perfect fiddle to be played.
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Yes, his ego doesn't let him see that. Dunning-Kruger effect. In reality, he's the king of flip-flopping and the rumor is that the last person he talks to determines his current opinion. Therefore he gives the impression of unstability, weakness or treachery, while on the facts it is the neocon/Zionist/Deep State agenda that is carried forward anyways.
 
The way I understand Trump is through the lens of grandiose narcissism which I think fits IMO. Dr. Ramani is a psychologist who treats people with narcissism and, more often, treats people who have been severely injured by a narcissist (as people with narcissism don't seek treatment as they usually think they are so great and other people are the problem).

 
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