Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

Did Trump go rogue on Israel, did he grew some balls or is this just another ruse to gain time to rearm Israel and the US bases and bring more fire power.
That's what I thought as well: Trump did not consult with Israel (according to the Israelis) before announcing this ceasefire.

A sign that he wants to withdraw the US or only continue with symbolic minor strikes while Israel continues being destroyed?

The Israeli blackmail against his family is presumably still there. At this point it seems more likely that Trump has lost it and that this was the reason he did not consult with Israel, rather than some plan to hang them out to dry.
 
JD Vance commenting on the ceasefire: (short, 1.5 minute video)

On Iran: "The Iranians legitimately misunderstood." (we, the US, never agreed about Lebanon)

On Israel: "The Israelis are trying to set us up for success."

 
Yikes, I never realized this but my birthday is right next to hitlers and even the birth year has the same digits a century apart.

I then checked out his human design chart (Astrology chart I am conversant with) and the most prominent 4 gates are the exact same.
I don't know why you are telling us that, but please don't genocide us. We are nice people, we promise.
Very, very nice people... <sneers in hebrew> ;)
 
That's what I thought as well: Trump did not consult with Israel (according to the Israelis) before announcing this ceasefire.

A sign that he wants to withdraw the US or only continue with symbolic minor strikes while Israel continues being destroyed?

The Israeli blackmail against his family is presumably still there. At this point it seems more likely that Trump has lost it and that this was the reason he did not consult with Israel, rather than some plan to hang them out to dry.
We “wait and see”. Yeah, Trump may well have lost it and forgotten that he is supposed to be supporting Israel so has reverted back to his anti-war campaign promises. Seriously maybe some dementia is good. It’s all whack-a-doodle!
 
That's what I thought as well: Trump did not consult with Israel (according to the Israelis) before announcing this ceasefire.

A sign that he wants to withdraw the US or only continue with symbolic minor strikes while Israel continues being destroyed?

The Israeli blackmail against his family is presumably still there. At this point it seems more likely that Trump has lost it and that this was the reason he did not consult with Israel, rather than some plan to hang them out to dry.

I think Trump is well aware of the absolute disaster the war is, for him and the US, for Iran and the entire world. He was waiting for the special operation to happen and was going to use it as a Fordow 2.0 - i.e. a Hollywood Yank victory to get out + a way to pacify the Israelis as much as possible. It was the only bet he could put all his money on and he knew if he lost he would go bust.

So maybe this is wishful thinking on my part and I’m not committed to the idea whatsoever, but perhaps once the special operation miscarried, he quit for the sake of the world.

Maybe he’s all at sea now and doesn’t know what the future holds. But to announce the ceasefire and imply that Iranian demands will be honoured to some extent, shows that he’s done with it. He wants no more war in Iran.

He may not SAY that, in an hour, or tomorrow, or the day after. He might go back into ‘angel of death’ mode. But analysing what he’s done over the last 24hrs, I think this is where his head is at the moment.
 
1. Trump done with it all as @T.C proposed.
2. Trumps cognitive strain (dementia or stress related dementia like symptoms) has caused him to forget what he is supposed to be saying.
3. A regrouping and Angel of death mode will return.
Any other possibility ?

Stacking them up, number 1 looks to have the most face validity on this morning of 9 April (NZT -where the day has already dawned).
 
I don't know why you are telling us that, but please don't genocide us. We are nice people, we promise.
Very, very nice people... <sneers in hebrew> ;)

NEIN, be nicer!!! :evil:

Jokes apart, twas quite concerning lol. I went and read his analysis, and saw the gates are expressed a bit differently, and the centers are also a bit different. Close call, though. :-D

Apparently there were 7000 babies with the same date/time profile, and it is the conditioning by the people around them that makes them who they are and what lives they lead.
 
There appears to be contradicting statements coming out of the Whitehouse at the moment as to whether the Straits of Hormuz are open or closed again post the ceasefire:​

Karoline Leavitt's bizarre denial a contradiction of official's statement​

Story by Sarah K. Burris

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt is in a fact-check war as the media is desperately trying to get to the truth of the ceasefire between the United States and Iran.

While the White House announced a two-week ceasefire dependent on reopening the Strait of Hormuz, after a bombing in Lebanon on Wednesday, Iranian state media announced the Strait was closed again. They said that the attacks violated the ceasefire, which included no more attacks on Iran and Lebanon.

During the daily press briefing, Leavitt was asked which was true: is the Strait open or not? Is Lebanon part of the ceasefire or not?

"Well, with respect to the first reporting out of Iranian state media, the president was made aware of those reports before I came to the podium. That is completely unacceptable," said Leavitt. "And again, this is a case of what they're saying publicly is different. Privately, we have seen an uptick of traffic in the Strait today. And I will reiterate the president's expectation and demand that the Strait of Hormuz is reopened immediately, quickly, and safely. That is his expectation. It has been relayed to him privately that that is what's taking place in these reports publicly are false."

Tommy Vietor, a National Security Council aide under President Barack Obama, pointed to Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, of Pakistan, who facilitated the talks between the U.S. and Iran.

In a post on Tuesday, Sharif wrote, "With the greatest humility, I am pleased to announce that the Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America, along with their allies, have agreed to an immediate ceasefire everywhere, including Lebanon and elsewhere, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY."

Yet, Leavitt claimed the opposite.


 
NEIN, be nicer!!! :evil:

Jokes apart, twas quite concerning lol. I went and read his analysis, and saw the gates are expressed a bit differently, and the centers are also a bit different. Close call, though. :-D

Apparently there were 7000 babies with the same date/time profile, and it is the conditioning by the people around them that makes them who they are and what lives they lead.

Regarding the wording I highlighted above, you should watch the movie The Boys from Brazil if you have not already.

Plot​

Barry Kohler, a young amateur Nazi hunter, spies on a meeting of the fugitive Nazi organisation Kameraden in Paraguay. At this meeting, infamous Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele issues instructions for the assassinations of 94 civil servants in Western Europe and North America, all of them low-ranking and aged around 65, on particular dates over the next two years. Kohler telephones Ezra Lieberman, a famous (as well as penniless and cynical) Nazi hunter living in Vienna, to inform him of his discovery. While still on the phone, Kohler is surprised by the Kameraden and killed.

With the help of his sister Esther, British journalist Sidney Beynon and Jewish-American vigilante leader David Bennett, Lieberman begins investigating the deaths of civil servants fitting the profile who die suddenly over the next few months. He is struck by the fact that all of the dead men have sons aged 13 who look exactly alike, with pale skin, dark hair and blue eyes. He discovers that all of the boys were illegally adopted and that some of the adoptions were facilitated by Kameraden member Frieda Maloney, who has since been jailed. Lieberman interviews Maloney, who tells him that the boys were provided by an intermediary in Brazil. She mentions that one of the adoptive fathers she dealt with, American Henry Wheelock, gave her a newborn puppy in exchange for her baby.

Seeking an explanation for the boys' identical appearance, Lieberman consults the biologist Dr Bruckner, who explains the principles of cloning. Lieberman deduces that the boys are clones of Adolf Hitler, all created from a single DNA sample by Mengele, who has also been seeking to ensure that their childhoods imitate that of the original Hitler by having them adopted by parents who resemble Hitler's own abusive father Alois (a civil servant in the Austro-Hungarian Empire) and doting mother Klara. All in the hopes that their later lives will follow the same course, and that as adults they will establish new Nazi regimes in their respective countries. The murders of the fathers are part of this plan, designed to reflect the death of Alois when Hitler was 13. Based on this revelation, and the age of Maloney's dog, Lieberman realises that Henry Wheelock is due to be murdered in just four days' time.​


 
Regarding the wording I highlighted above, you should watch the movie The Boys from Brazil if you have not already.

Plot​

Barry Kohler, a young amateur Nazi hunter, spies on a meeting of the fugitive Nazi organisation Kameraden in Paraguay. At this meeting, infamous Auschwitz doctor Josef Mengele issues instructions for the assassinations of 94 civil servants in Western Europe and North America, all of them low-ranking and aged around 65, on particular dates over the next two years. Kohler telephones Ezra Lieberman, a famous (as well as penniless and cynical) Nazi hunter living in Vienna, to inform him of his discovery. While still on the phone, Kohler is surprised by the Kameraden and killed.

With the help of his sister Esther, British journalist Sidney Beynon and Jewish-American vigilante leader David Bennett, Lieberman begins investigating the deaths of civil servants fitting the profile who die suddenly over the next few months. He is struck by the fact that all of the dead men have sons aged 13 who look exactly alike, with pale skin, dark hair and blue eyes. He discovers that all of the boys were illegally adopted and that some of the adoptions were facilitated by Kameraden member Frieda Maloney, who has since been jailed. Lieberman interviews Maloney, who tells him that the boys were provided by an intermediary in Brazil. She mentions that one of the adoptive fathers she dealt with, American Henry Wheelock, gave her a newborn puppy in exchange for her baby.

Seeking an explanation for the boys' identical appearance, Lieberman consults the biologist Dr Bruckner, who explains the principles of cloning. Lieberman deduces that the boys are clones of Adolf Hitler, all created from a single DNA sample by Mengele, who has also been seeking to ensure that their childhoods imitate that of the original Hitler by having them adopted by parents who resemble Hitler's own abusive father Alois (a civil servant in the Austro-Hungarian Empire) and doting mother Klara. All in the hopes that their later lives will follow the same course, and that as adults they will establish new Nazi regimes in their respective countries. The murders of the fathers are part of this plan, designed to reflect the death of Alois when Hitler was 13. Based on this revelation, and the age of Maloney's dog, Lieberman realises that Henry Wheelock is due to be murdered in just four days' time.​



yes, this was 3D thinking. The soul determines much.
 
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If Iran says that Lebanon must be a part of the ceasefire while the US says it is not, then there is no ceasefire. Not to mention that nobody has stopped bombing.
Perhaps this action of Israel deliberately torpedoing the ceasefire may be what will lead to their ultimate destruction. The C's predicted this nearly 25 years ago when the war in Afghanistan was just about to kick off:​

Session 24 September 2001:

Q:
(L) Well we plan to. What is going to happen with the Middle-eastern situation; this Afghanistan or whatever?

A: Herding of population to much finer order of control.

Q: (L) What is the purpose of this control; this increasing control.

A: Preparation for war in Palestine.

Q: (L) But nobody has said anything about having a war in Palestine. They're all talking about having a war in Afghanistan. How does Palestine fit in here?

A: It is the ultimate objective of Israel.

Q: (L) Why would they want to have war in their own country? Well, aside from the fact that they've been having a war in their own country for a long time. I guess they want to bring it to a final conclusion. What is going to be the result of this plan?

A: Destruction of Jews.

Q: (L) Well obviously this is not what THEY are planning, is it?

A: No.

Q:(L) They are planning destruction of Palestinians, right?

A:
Yes.

Q:
(L) It seems that through out history whenever the Jews have plotted and planned to destroy somebody, they are the ones who have ended up being destroyed themselves. Or am I misreading my history here?

A:
No.

It seems they just bring around karmic blowback upon themselves.

On a personal note, I remember this particular period very well since my beautiful younger daughter was born on the 27th September that year and my wife and I would sit up late at night whilst feeding her and watching the live news feed showing the invasion of Afghanistan. Look at how that fiasco ultimately played out. Well my daughter is all grown up now and I attended her wedding last month. How time (you know, that thing that doesn't exist :-)) flies.

As regards the destruction of Israel, this was brought up again in the session dated 14 April 2018:
(L) Well, I dunno... I mean, look at this John Bolton and Mike Pompeo. They're Neocon war hawks!

(Joe) Yeah, and they’re in there to ramp up the attacks on Russia.

(L) I think they actually think they're going to have a war!

(Joe) Russia is too smart for them. They can have a World War III with nukes, and everyone is dead. But short of that, they're going to have to accept the new reality.

(Ark) They can have a war to destroy Iran.

(L) That's what Israel wants.

(Ark) That's what they're preparing for. That will be the next one.

(L) Didn't the C's say years ago that that was the ultimate objective?

(Joe) Well, Iran, Iraq, Libya...

(L) The ultimate objective was Iran, but it would result in the destruction of Israel.

(Joe) They may be trying to go in that direction, but it's very foolish.

(L) Is there anything... I guess it's a stupid question to ask, but: Is there anything that can stop this madness?

A:
No there isn't nor would you want to stop it!

Q:
(L) Why wouldn't I want to stop it?

A: Cleansing.

Q:
(L) It's a cleansing. In other words, these people...

(Pierre) You're going to end up with the destruction of the bad guys.

(Joe) Because the bad guys are going to get it in the neck. The problem is in the Middle East. That's where they're desperate, and Israel is desperate. And they see a major change in global power coming, and they'll be sidelined along with America. That's what they want to stop. If it's centered in the Middle East, then they're going to have to have a war in the Middle East, including with Iran. Russia's been quietly selling all sorts of weapons...

(L) I think Russia and Iran have been quietly arming themselves. One of the reasons they've been so patient is that not only does it exhibit their Zen consciousness, but it also gives them time to arm themselves to the teeth!

(Joe) Right. And the Chinese...

(L) They're building weapons and super-weapons like crazy while America and much of the West is piddling around.

(Pierre) That's why the US war hawks are desperate. They know that every day that passes, the gap between Russia, China, and the USA is widening. The US is lagging behind more and more. The more you wait for a war, the more you are likely to lose. But they've really passed the point of no return, I think. Today, if they wage war, they're going to lose.

(Joe) The gap is getting smaller.

(Pierre) To me, they're already past the point.

(L) That's why they passed that gargantuan military spending bill. Problem is, the US doesn't have the infrastructure or skilled workers for it anymore.

(Joe) If what the Russians said last night in Syria is true, all of America's fancy nice, new, and smart weapons were shot down with 1960's era anti-missile systems.

(L) In other words, the US smart missiles weren't so smart.

A: Just you wait! It is going to get VERY interesting very soon!
When the C's said "Just you wait! It is going to get VERY interesting very soon!", I wonder if what we are witnessing right now was what the C's were referring to?

Terrible as the scenes we are currently seeing on our TV screens, phones and laptops are, we have to accept that these things are unfortunately necessary for the ultimate purposes of 'cleansing' the world of the bad guys, as Pierre so aptly described them. We have to just trust that things will work out as they are supposed to.​
 

Netanyahu threatens to invade Iran if uranium not handed over peacefully​

Story by Yelena Mandenberg


The Daily Express

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In a speech, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu threatened Iran despite the ceasefire agreement, suggesting that the army is ready to resume operations if the Islamist-run state does not denuclearize.

"The enriched material will leave Iran either by agreement or by fighting," the Israeli leader said. "The Iranians are not producing new missiles, and we have severely damaged the nuclear program and the scientists," Netanyahu added.

He says the "bottom line" of the campaign is that "Israel is stronger than ever, and Iran is weaker than ever."

He also said that the war was successful, and "We have set the regime back years and undermined its foundations."

Netanyahu thanked the Israeli public for their resilience. "We accomplished together massive achievements," he says, "our fighters on the front, and you in the rear."

The United States demanded Wednesday that Iran immediately reopen the Strait of Hormuz after the Islamic Republic closed the waterway in response to Israeli attacks against the Hezbollah militant group in Lebanon. Iran's move cast doubt over whether an already precarious ceasefire to end more than a month of war would hold.

The United States and Iran both claimed victory after reaching the agreement, and world leaders expressed relief, even as more drones and missiles hit Iran and Gulf Arab countries. Israel also intensified its attacks in Lebanon, hitting several commercial and residential areas in Beirut without warning. At least 112 people were killed, and hundreds were wounded in one of the deadliest days in the latest Israel-Hezbollah war.

The fresh violence threatened to scuttle what U.S. Vice President JD Vance called a "fragile" deal.

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This is hardly what I would call a conciliatory tone. It doesn't really bode well for the peace negotiations. Will the Trump administration be able to slap the Israeli dog down?
 
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