Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

Being "reported" today.

It seems some of this information is "dubious" first to be reported, and mostly from Western sources. One issue is, the US says one thing about the War Ships and the Iranians says something quite different and then, nothing from the Iranians. Anyway here's the latest I can find.

  • President Trump announces start of "clearing out the Strait" as a favor to the rest of the world as two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers passed without incident.

  • Peace talks in Pakistan begin in indirect format, led by Vance and on Iran side - Ghalibaf, Arachchi.

  • Saturday sees more Israeli strikes on Lebanon, with Hezbollah supporting Pakistan talks but rejecting 'separate deal' directly with Israel.

  • Trump on talks and potential bigger future attacks on Iran: "You don’t need a backup plan" as Iran's "military is defeated".
"The Wall Street Journal that two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, marking the first transit of American warships through the waterway since the war began six weeks ago."

Several US Warships Cross Hormuz Strait: Axios​

"Just as indirect talks kick off in Islamabad, a shocking and surprise development is being reported by Axios' Barak Ravid, though this is not confirmed:"

"We’re now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor to Countries all over the World, including China, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, and many others."
Incredibly, they don’t have the Courage or Will to do this work themselves.
Very interestingly, however, empty Oil carrying ships from many Nations are all heading to the United States of America to LOAD UP with Oil.
Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

"Iran explicitly informed the Pakistani mediator during talks that if the vessel continued its movement it would be targeted within 30 minutes and the Iran-US negotiations would be damaged."

"The (successful) timing of this action - as talks begin in Islamabad - is certainly a show of strength amid the delicate negotiations."

"If accurate, are we witnessing Trump suddenly pile on more leverage before negotiations even get off the ground? It seems like the Iranians would have noticed several US Navy warships passing. Either they held off attack for the sake of pursuing peace, or this was truly done 'stealthily' and Iranian capabilities are degraded to the point they may have 'missed' it. Or is this an attempt to muddy the negotiations? Sabotage? Ravid after all has long stood accused of pushing an Israeli agenda in his reporting".

"And yet, the reality is that Iran remains in control of the Strait of Hormuz, with only a tiny trickle of 'vetted and approved' vessels making it through, and reportedly paying hefty toll fees to Tehran, which Trump has warned against. Iran in Pakistan is asking for sanctions to be lifted. If the US grants this, Iran will be in a better position than went the war started, which will be tantamount to gains made through the fight."
(USS H.W. Bush is presently in route to the ME)

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Macrocosm said:
Whether they stick to their rules and avoid widescale destruction of infrastructure remains to be seen.
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Yes, there are also steps in escalation that the US and Israel have not taken yet, such as the destruction of Iranian oil production or other critical infrastructure like the power plants.

Survival for Iran certainly includes not getting its critical infratructure destroyed (or nuked) and they agreed to negotiations when Trump was threatening to destroy their power plants.

Though it seems unlikely that a peace deal will be reached soon, primarily because Israel doesn't want it and Trump seems completely beholden to the Zionists.

Two pretty good clairvoyants (Egon Fischer and Lada Ray) see the war ending in the summer. Which also makes sense that it will be wrapped up before the midterm elections in November.

Though the damage to Trump is already done and it seems unlikely he will be able to spin it in a positive way. Unless he does turn on the Zionists while currently "playing his cards close to the chest", as the C's have said. Considering that it looks like he completely lost it, that too seems very unlikely and the chances of him extricating himself from Zionist control are "close to 0", according to the latest session.
 
Is "Rift in NATO" a Performance Orchestrated by the US?
Apr 11, 2026
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Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova responds to claims that divisions between the United States and European NATO members over Middle East policy reflect growing European sovereignty. She rejects the idea of a staged conflict and instead argues that NATO lacks genuine solidarity. According to her, the alliance operates under a command-and-control system rather than voluntary unity, raising deeper questions about power dynamics between the U.S. and Europe. Moscow, April 8, 2026
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Alastair Warren Crooke and William Schyrver talk about the Iranians maintaining an underground fortified position that Israel has not yet penetrated, despite what MSN suggests.

CEASEFIRE IS NO EXIT RAMP for Trump or Netanyahu /Alastair Crooke
Apr 10, 2026
This video dovetails nicely with yesterday’s post of William Schyrver’s article on “magazine depth” and “shields”, which indicates that the US just doesn’t have the resources to continue fighting—or support Israel..

Iran’s capability was reinforced by its downing of the --MQ-4C Triton super drone, which is also super expensive, somewhere between $240 million and $618 million for the most recent version. Naturally, the US media is quoting the lower figure and saying It “might” have been shot down by an Iranian missile, The drone is designed to operate for long periods of time above 50,000 ft, as high 60,000 ft.

So presumably the Iranians were using high altitude pigeons.

Of course, Iran has Russian and Chinese AD systems capable to interceptions at high altitudes, but their own newest AD missiles can do it too and are said to incorporate both Russian and Chinese technologies, with the advantage that Iran can produce its missiles in its underground factories so it has “magazine depth” of “shields”.

We should keep in mind that in just the last month of fighting, Iran has introduced a number of new and very powerful weapons, while upgrading its capabilities at the same time. If the ceasefire is not extended, you can expect to see some excitement.

So far it seems that the Israel is not agreeing to a ceasefire on its operations against Hezbollah, while trying to provoke a civil war in Lebanon, which would lead to the collapse of the American-owned government, which no one trusts anymore.

Short and sweet? Hezbollah is winning.
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Iran war live: US, Iran hold historic direct ceasefire talks in Pakistan
  • Ceasefire talks between the United States and Iran are under way in Pakistan’s capital, Islamabad – the first direct in-person talks between Washington and Tehran since the 1979 Islamic revolution.

  • US Vice President JD Vance leads the US delegation. He met Pakistani PM Shehbaz Sharif ahead of ceasefire negotiations. Iranian officials, including Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi, also met Sharif.


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Adobe said:
Being "reported" today.

It seems some of this information is "dubious" first to be reported, and mostly from Western sources. One issue is, the US says one thing about the War Ships and the Iranians says something quite different and then, nothing from the Iranians. Anyway here's the latest I can find.

  • President Trump announces start of "clearing out the Strait" as a favor to the rest of the world as two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers passed without incident.

  • Peace talks in Pakistan begin in indirect format, led by Vance and on Iran side - Ghalibaf, Arachchi.

  • Saturday sees more Israeli strikes on Lebanon, with Hezbollah supporting Pakistan talks but rejecting 'separate deal' directly with Israel.

  • Trump on talks and potential bigger future attacks on Iran: "You don’t need a backup plan" as Iran's "military is defeated".
"The Wall Street Journal that two U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers passed through the Strait of Hormuz on Saturday, marking the first transit of American warships through the waterway since the war began six weeks ago."

Several US Warships Cross Hormuz Strait: Axios​

"Just as indirect talks kick off in Islamabad, a shocking and surprise development is being reported by Axios' Barak Ravid, though this is not confirmed:"

"We’re now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor to Countries all over the World, including China, Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, and many others."
Incredibly, they don’t have the Courage or Will to do this work themselves.
Very interestingly, however, empty Oil carrying ships from many Nations are all heading to the United States of America to LOAD UP with Oil.
Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DONALD J. TRUMP"

"Iran explicitly informed the Pakistani mediator during talks that if the vessel continued its movement it would be targeted within 30 minutes and the Iran-US negotiations would be damaged."

"The (successful) timing of this action - as talks begin in Islamabad - is certainly a show of strength amid the delicate negotiations."

"If accurate, are we witnessing Trump suddenly pile on more leverage before negotiations even get off the ground? It seems like the Iranians would have noticed several US Navy warships passing. Either they held off attack for the sake of pursuing peace, or this was truly done 'stealthily' and Iranian capabilities are degraded to the point they may have 'missed' it. Or is this an attempt to muddy the negotiations? Sabotage? Ravid after all has long stood accused of pushing an Israeli agenda in his reporting".

"And yet, the reality is that Iran remains in control of the Strait of Hormuz, with only a tiny trickle of 'vetted and approved' vessels making it through, and reportedly paying hefty toll fees to Tehran, which Trump has warned against. Iran in Pakistan is asking for sanctions to be lifted. If the US grants this, Iran will be in a better position than went the war started, which will be tantamount to gains made through the fight."
(USS H.W. Bush is presently in route to the ME)

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I've found other information:

A US destroyer returned from the Strait of Hormuz after a stern warning from Iran.

In an interview with IRIB News Channel, a spokesperson for the Iranian Foreign Ministry mentioned "cases of potential ceasefire violations" that were prevented thanks to the immediate response of the diplomatic ministry and the decisive warning from the armed forces.

According to the Fars news agency, the Foreign Ministry spokesperson's speech referred to an incident involving the US destroyer's movement from the port of Fujairah toward the Strait of Hormuz, which was immediately detected by the armed forces.

According to the investigation, the armed forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran, closely monitoring the destroyer's location, relayed the information to the negotiating delegation in Pakistan, after which the Iranian delegation immediately relayed it to the American side through a Pakistani intermediary.

At the same time, a stern warning was sent to the destroyer that it would be struck if it approached the Strait of Hormuz.

Iran made it clear through a Pakistani intermediary that "if the ship's movement continues, it will be struck within 30 minutes, and the negotiations between Iran and the US will also be jeopardized."

According to the information, the decisive response of the armed forces, along with the warning and actions of the negotiating delegation, resulted in the ship being ordered to stop.

This responsible and decisive approach by Iran, demonstrating close cooperation between the armed forces and the diplomatic apparatus, was highly praised by the Pakistani intermediary.
 
N34 said:
For me the difference is like day and night. The former videos give people hope and strength and are noble and admirable, while the latter gives me ick, and is just petty or even malignant.
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There's multiple outlets making these AI Lego videos so what you saw as a distinct difference probably is due to this more than anything else.

N34 said:
I think I understand what you did A Jay. You played devil's advocate didn't you? You got me to think! But you know what is funny, the first time I read you message I had this knee jerk reaction, like why are you attacking me, I just shared my thoughts and this is what I get?
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To be fair, I could have worded my response to be less direct. I don't think I was excessively pointed but it wouldn't have hurt to soften the edges a bit.

At any rate, yes, the idea was to try and get you to think about your thinking a bit more. ;-D

N34 said:
So yes I am sure my strings are still attached, and I observe myself often and see myself doing stupid things and it just makes me sad. If I could be free, If I could somehow get rid of the strings, I know I could be really happy.

Thank you for helping even someone like me, a complete stranger, with only handful of posts on the forum. I am eternally grateful to you. I still feel lost, but now I know what I really want to do. I want to be free, I want to get rid of the strings.
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Nothing will serve you better in such a journey than improving your ability to think clearly, deeply, and systematically.
 
ra888 said:
EDIT: The website is really hard to read for comprehension, with barely 2-3 sentences visible on my screen vs say tg and X. I am going to slowdown for such cases in the future, as they probably do that on purpose.
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I agree! The New York Post is way overloaded with ads and it does make it difficult to read.

For those in the US, a reinstatement of the draft would be an especially big escalation and development, and huge news, so it was an easier catch for me. It has also been noted by various commentators that the draft hasn’t been used in modern wars due to the resistance it caused during the Vietnam war. That said, given the craziness of this current war, I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point it is activated. Americans already don’t want this war, and a draft along with extreme gas and food prices might lead to the resistance that the C’s were talking about.
 
sToRmR1dR said:
During the ongoing US-Iran negotiations in Islamabad, the US is deploying significant forces, including elite units and modern aviation to the Iranian borders, while Iran's armed forces remain on full alert, "with fingers on the trigger".
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Every body knows "Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me". How many times Usrael cheated in the name of negotiations? The recent lebanon attack on lebanon after the announcement of truce killed 2000 people and injured 6000 people. Imagine the monstrocity of killing 2000 people in one attack? But still Iran went for negotiations despite unreconcilable huge differences. Why?

I guess Iran knows its vulnerabilities and I hope they know what they are doing. In a way, Russia too did similar type of negotiations knowing it is hopeless to believe in NATO puppets. I guess practicalities of War are lot more harsher distant spectators can imagine and wish.
 
axj said:
And they are all looking exactly the same - McGregor always staring straight into the camera and delivering an uninterrupted speech for 40 minutes.
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Yeah it's AI... I actually couldn't handle watching it or even listening. It didn't have McGregor's 'essence' and 'human-ness'.
You can tell from the eyes - even though AI is clever and getting 'better' doing all it can to mimic human behaviour even down to making it look like MacGregor really is reading from a screen, and the skin on his neck was moving (that sounds creepy!) but the blinks and expressions are 'wrong': there are no natural pauses, no real change in tone, no 'breath'... no space for the listener to receive more deeply, to emphasise a point or even express genuine emotion (ie: concern) on some level.

There is so much subtle nuance when observing another human that I just don't feel computers will ever be able to replicate us. I guess that's because each of us truly are so unique - and it also shows how well we are paying attention to subtle nuance as well as the vibration and 'energy signature' of another souled being. I think it's essential to have that kind of discernment if we are going to be able to hold onto our collective human-ness and know how to 'read' one another with real accuracy. We seem to be getting better at picking up that something is 'off'. So AI is kinda training us too, I guess, to learn how to recognise human and non human as the lines become increasingly blurred.

Have to say I am catching up on a few shows and paying attention to the live comments people are making - man, people are not only really really funny, but also honest to the point that I'm cringing or laughing because so much of what they say is SO true. Their BS radar seems to be pretty strong. People clearly know when they are being lied to and that instinct seems to be getting stronger. 🌻🌻🌻
 
The BBC say they have interviewed the people behind the AI Lego videos.

This podcast is mostly the hosts introducing and discussing the videos, while providing their opinions on them. They basically explain the context of the videos and point out what they consider factual inaccuracies or unproven claims.

bbc.com

BBC Audio | Marianna in Conspiracyland | Iran, slopaganda, and the lego-inspired creator behind it all

Explosive Media are accused of working for the Iranian government
bbc.com bbc.com

They have an article about the interview.

We spoke to the man making viral Lego-style AI videos for Iran. Experts say it's powerful propaganda

There is a short video inside the article with a section of the interview. I couldn't manage to find the whole interview anywhere.

There isn't much new to be gathered other than the meme war comparison at around 16:00 between the US's and Iran's versions of what happened regarding the pilot rescue/uranium heist event(s). They then link this to the concept of hyperreality (social media becoming more real than reality itself) and say that Iran is using Trump's tactics against him.

They could have done some actual investigate journalism to see where the actual reality is closer to, but guess not.
 
axj said:
Yes, there are also steps in escalation that the US and Israel have not taken yet, such as the destruction of Iranian oil production or other critical infrastructure like the power plants.

Survival for Iran certainly includes not getting its critical infratructure destroyed (or nuked) and they agreed to negotiations when Trump was threatening to destroy their power plants.

Though it seems unlikely that a peace deal will be reached soon, primarily because Israel doesn't want it and Trump seems completely beholden to the Zionists.

Two pretty good clairvoyants (Egon Fischer and Lada Ray) see the war ending in the summer. Which also makes sense that it will be wrapped up before the midterm elections in November.

Though the damage to Trump is already done and it seems unlikely he will be able to spin it in a positive way. Unless he does turn on the Zionists while currently "playing his cards close to the chest", as the C's have said. Considering that it looks like he completely lost it, that too seems very unlikely and the chances of him extricating himself from Zionist control are "close to 0", according to the latest session.
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I guess the reprieve is over with the talks collapsing without much trying on the US side. Now, we wait and see how the situation develops. Let's hope Trump cooled his head down watching some UFC and won't go back to crazy civilization-ending rhetoric.

The Israelis are just hopeless.

axj said:
This seems to be another AI video on a channel that posted its first video 4 days ago.

And they are all looking exactly the same - McGregor always staring straight into the camera and delivering an uninterrupted speech for 40 minutes.
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I mostly listened to it while doing housework. Looking back at it now, there is a very good chance it's AI. Too much padding and repetition that made it annoying to listen to. No sources for the claims or evidence presented.

Ruth said:
Some more Lego memes, this time featuring Lego ships, the Strait of Hormuz and international sentiment.

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These are some strange-looking missiles...

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