zak
The Living Force
On this new alignment, I bet on the cat.
Do some French people see what's going on? Yellow Vest Protests
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They can follow us, know where we eat or where we go at any time , they even can know if it is raining on planet Mars and they can not find the terrorist of Strasbourg? With all the military personnel working on it? All their computers and stuff that cost millions of euros? Are they moron at that point? Do they think we are moron at that point?
Gwelan (too)
Jedi
With a thought for those people who have nothing to do with it, we can only observe, after the flop of the presidential speech, that this attack comes at the right time. Of course, as reasonable people, we cannot say it, but we will not refrain from thinking that the cynicism of those in power has no limits.
isparnid
Jedi Council Member
Indeed, It is necessary to maintain psychosis, dramatize the situation, activate patriotism. It is part of the scenario. For the unawakened, they follow these events on TV or social networks like a football game: Bread and games! The people must wait for the promised crumbs.
What a magnificent theatre even if the PTB stars are poor actors. The illusion is there. The matrix is full of resources and has not said its last word....
Hi_Henry
The Living Force
You would HOPE that people would ask a simple question , "So you have cameras everywhere, police and intelligence people everywhere and this little man shoots at you and then disappears ? That does not compute."
and then
Adaryn
The Living Force
An act V for the yellow vests on Saturday, December 15?
After the demonstration on Saturday, December 8 and Emmanuel Macron's speech on Monday evening, will there be a continuation in the action of the yellow vests?
According to social networks – the center of the movement – yes, there will be. And the next actions promise to be strong in symbolism.
Many events are emerging on Facebook for Saturday, December 15. The demonstration is baptized by all: Act V of the yellow vests.
The most popular, and most classic, will be the march on the Champs-Elysées entitled "Act 5: Macron Resignation", which already has 9,900 participants and 63,000 interested parties. While some call for a rally without violence (the event is called "Let's prepare for Christmas") and do not yet give the itinerary of the demonstration, others specify only one address: Palais de l'Elysée, and one hour: 10pm Saturday evening. Already a success for this last call, which brings together 5,500 participants and 39,000 interested parties.
Symbolism for the next actions of the yellow vests
With four days to go before the next demonstration, Internet users are calling for a takeover of the public media. The objective ? "To ensure the communication of ideas in all their diversity in France and not to spread propaganda for all the predatory interests" underlines the event "Yellow Vests: we regain control of the media" on Facebook. The itinerary? A departure from the Maison de la Radio, to join the premises of France Télévisions.
The yellow vests are already anticipating a symbolic action, called Act 8 "The YV's New Year's Eve", which will take place on December 31, with 3,100 participants and 30,000 interested parties already on Wednesday, December 12 at 4:15 p.m. The participation rate continues to increase. Destination: always the Champs Elysées.
Will the events in Strasbourg change the course of Act V?
Following the shooting in Strasbourg on the evening of 11 December, the event in support of Act V of the Strasbourg yellow vests is postponed: "The event is put in brackets, we address our thoughts to our Strasbourg capital. Moreover, a prefectoral decree signed during the night of 11 to 12 December prohibits any gathering or demonstration until further notice, according to BFM TV, in Strasbourg.
If personalities are calling for a "truce" in the demonstrations, the yellow vests call on the networks not to turn away from them. On the Parisian event "Act V: Macron Resignation", a minute's silence was announced in memory of the victims of the Strasbourg attack on Saturday on the Champs-Élysées. The post, published during the night of December 11-12, was liked by more than 3,700 Internet users. But to the extent that France is placed in an "emergency attack", the course of Act V of the yellow vests could change.
After the demonstration on Saturday, December 8 and Emmanuel Macron's speech on Monday evening, will there be a continuation in the action of the yellow vests?
According to social networks – the center of the movement – yes, there will be. And the next actions promise to be strong in symbolism.
Many events are emerging on Facebook for Saturday, December 15. The demonstration is baptized by all: Act V of the yellow vests.
The most popular, and most classic, will be the march on the Champs-Elysées entitled "Act 5: Macron Resignation", which already has 9,900 participants and 63,000 interested parties. While some call for a rally without violence (the event is called "Let's prepare for Christmas") and do not yet give the itinerary of the demonstration, others specify only one address: Palais de l'Elysée, and one hour: 10pm Saturday evening. Already a success for this last call, which brings together 5,500 participants and 39,000 interested parties.
Symbolism for the next actions of the yellow vests
With four days to go before the next demonstration, Internet users are calling for a takeover of the public media. The objective ? "To ensure the communication of ideas in all their diversity in France and not to spread propaganda for all the predatory interests" underlines the event "Yellow Vests: we regain control of the media" on Facebook. The itinerary? A departure from the Maison de la Radio, to join the premises of France Télévisions.
The yellow vests are already anticipating a symbolic action, called Act 8 "The YV's New Year's Eve", which will take place on December 31, with 3,100 participants and 30,000 interested parties already on Wednesday, December 12 at 4:15 p.m. The participation rate continues to increase. Destination: always the Champs Elysées.
Will the events in Strasbourg change the course of Act V?
Following the shooting in Strasbourg on the evening of 11 December, the event in support of Act V of the Strasbourg yellow vests is postponed: "The event is put in brackets, we address our thoughts to our Strasbourg capital. Moreover, a prefectoral decree signed during the night of 11 to 12 December prohibits any gathering or demonstration until further notice, according to BFM TV, in Strasbourg.
If personalities are calling for a "truce" in the demonstrations, the yellow vests call on the networks not to turn away from them. On the Parisian event "Act V: Macron Resignation", a minute's silence was announced in memory of the victims of the Strasbourg attack on Saturday on the Champs-Élysées. The post, published during the night of December 11-12, was liked by more than 3,700 Internet users. But to the extent that France is placed in an "emergency attack", the course of Act V of the yellow vests could change.
So, I reckons we should all be tweeting about Act V.
"Internet users are calling for a takeover of the public media. The objective ? "To ensure the communication of ideas in all their diversity in France and not to spread propaganda for all the predatory interests""
An idea that should spread everywhere.
"Internet users are calling for a takeover of the public media. The objective ? "To ensure the communication of ideas in all their diversity in France and not to spread propaganda for all the predatory interests""
An idea that should spread everywhere.
NEW CALIFORNIA STATE GRIEVANCE 47 "YELLOW VESTS"
Published on Dec 12, 2018
December 11, 2018 SUTTER COUNTY, CA READER: PAUL PRESTON https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/
December 11, 2018 SUTTER COUNTY, CA READER: PAUL PRESTON https://www.newcaliforniastate.com/
Adaryn
The Living Force
Dissent within the movement has already started, between the promoters of a 'hard' line (-> to continue the protests/road blocks, to demand Macron's resignation, to refuse to discuss with politicians) and those who want to 'talk'/come to some compromise with the government. Of course, the media are all too happy to report such infighting which puts the YV movement into jeopardy:
Jacline Mouraud, a figure in the "yellow vest" movement, believes that dialogue with the government must now be given way and that mobilization must stop at roundabouts.
Two days before another Saturday feared by the government and 48 hours after the Strasbourg attack that killed at least three people, Benjamin Griveaux called on Thursday morning not to demonstrate.
On RTL, Jacline Mouraud, who had repeatedly called out to the Head of State in videos that became viral, tried to calm the situation down.
While it is necessary to "continue the fight", she believes that we must discuss. "I don't think standing at roundabouts picking daisies next Spring is going to change government policy. You have to act intelligently and strategically," she says.
As a reminder, a 23-year-old young man died this Thursday morning after being hit by a truck on a roundabout in Avignon. This is the sixth death on the fringe of the movement since it began on 17 November.
"The door is open for us to meet the members of the government, everyone must make appointments to do so," continues the movement's initiator.
When asked about the conspiracy theories largely fuelled by "yellow vests" on the Internet since the attack on the Christmas market, Jacline Mouraud considers them "downright despicable".
A meeting between elected officials and "yellow vests" turns into a clash
While elected officials had agreed to meet "yellow vests" near Limoges (Haute-Vienne), another group of "yellow vests" did not like it, says 20 minutes. The scene turned into a brawl.
It was supposed to be a pacification meeting.
But the interview turned into a skirmish. Near Limoges, elected officials had agreed to meet a group of "yellow vests", more precisely the "citizens 87" collective. An interview not really to the liking of other "yellow vests", reports 20 Minutes. The reason? They had not been invited, and obviously did not want to discuss.
On Tuesday evening, nearly fifteen local elected officials of all tendencies accepted the group's invitation to a restaurant in Saint-Just-le-Martel. But the situation worsened when the uninvited "yellow vests" tried to enter the establishment.
At first they were turned away, but then they tried to talk to one of the meeting organizers, but then blows were exchanged. A man, himself hit, hit another man with a motorcycle helmet, injuring him in the head before everyone was dispersed shortly before 9pm.
Condemned violence
Violent acts that have been ongoing in recent days and have been denounced by the "citizens 87" collective. "Gangs are calling for a rally right now. It is better to leave".
In the other group, any responsibility is rejected, arguing that it is simply a request for information. "We just wanted to know in what name they were organizing this meeting. These people are not representative of the movement, they have no legitimacy. They claim to be apolitical but they hold meetings with politicians. It was obviously going to end like that," explained a member of the group "united yellow vests 87", in comments relayed by 20 Minutes.
A war of ego and influence that is beginning to undermine the movement from within.
Jacline Mouraud, a figure in the "yellow vest" movement, believes that dialogue with the government must now be given way and that mobilization must stop at roundabouts.
Two days before another Saturday feared by the government and 48 hours after the Strasbourg attack that killed at least three people, Benjamin Griveaux called on Thursday morning not to demonstrate.
On RTL, Jacline Mouraud, who had repeatedly called out to the Head of State in videos that became viral, tried to calm the situation down.
While it is necessary to "continue the fight", she believes that we must discuss. "I don't think standing at roundabouts picking daisies next Spring is going to change government policy. You have to act intelligently and strategically," she says.
As a reminder, a 23-year-old young man died this Thursday morning after being hit by a truck on a roundabout in Avignon. This is the sixth death on the fringe of the movement since it began on 17 November.
"The door is open for us to meet the members of the government, everyone must make appointments to do so," continues the movement's initiator.
When asked about the conspiracy theories largely fuelled by "yellow vests" on the Internet since the attack on the Christmas market, Jacline Mouraud considers them "downright despicable".
A meeting between elected officials and "yellow vests" turns into a clash
While elected officials had agreed to meet "yellow vests" near Limoges (Haute-Vienne), another group of "yellow vests" did not like it, says 20 minutes. The scene turned into a brawl.
It was supposed to be a pacification meeting.
But the interview turned into a skirmish. Near Limoges, elected officials had agreed to meet a group of "yellow vests", more precisely the "citizens 87" collective. An interview not really to the liking of other "yellow vests", reports 20 Minutes. The reason? They had not been invited, and obviously did not want to discuss.
On Tuesday evening, nearly fifteen local elected officials of all tendencies accepted the group's invitation to a restaurant in Saint-Just-le-Martel. But the situation worsened when the uninvited "yellow vests" tried to enter the establishment.
At first they were turned away, but then they tried to talk to one of the meeting organizers, but then blows were exchanged. A man, himself hit, hit another man with a motorcycle helmet, injuring him in the head before everyone was dispersed shortly before 9pm.
Condemned violence
Violent acts that have been ongoing in recent days and have been denounced by the "citizens 87" collective. "Gangs are calling for a rally right now. It is better to leave".
In the other group, any responsibility is rejected, arguing that it is simply a request for information. "We just wanted to know in what name they were organizing this meeting. These people are not representative of the movement, they have no legitimacy. They claim to be apolitical but they hold meetings with politicians. It was obviously going to end like that," explained a member of the group "united yellow vests 87", in comments relayed by 20 Minutes.
A war of ego and influence that is beginning to undermine the movement from within.
Adaryn
The Living Force
Even in a bad movie, what follows would defy credulity. Almost as good as the intact passport in the WTC's rubble:
Strasbourg attack: what Cherif Chekatt told the taxi driver
In particular, the suspect allegedly admitted to being the perpetrator of the shooting. Cherif Chekatt got into a taxi to escape.
On Tuesday evening, December 11, after opening fire a few metres from the Christmas market in Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin), the attacker managed to escape.
In circumstances that are still unclear, the perpetrator of the Strasbourg attack was able to take a taxi to the Neudorf district, where a new exchange of fire with the police took place, before he disappeared.
According to information from BFMTV, Cherif Chekatt, 29 years old, with an S record for his Islamist radicalization, reportedly spoke with the taxi driver. "After admitting the facts, he allegedly told him that he had acted because he wanted to 'avenge his brothers who died in Syria'," says the news channel.
"The police raided my house this morning."
Franceinfo confirms these comments. "You know what I did? I killed people", the terrorist is also reported to have said, according to statements reported by a source close to the case to France 2. "Police raided my house this morning, they found a grenade," he reportedly added.
According to Franceinfo, the taxi driver then went to a police station. He thinks he had his life saved because, as a Muslim, signs of his religion are visible in his cab, explains the public radio. Cherif Chekatt reportedly showed him his wounded arm. The taxi driver reportedly indicated that the assailant knew the streets of Strasbourg very well but seemed not to know where to go. The trip was very short," continues Franceinfo, the taxi driver having convinced the terrorist to leave the car.
Strasbourg attack: what Cherif Chekatt told the taxi driver
In particular, the suspect allegedly admitted to being the perpetrator of the shooting. Cherif Chekatt got into a taxi to escape.
On Tuesday evening, December 11, after opening fire a few metres from the Christmas market in Strasbourg (Bas-Rhin), the attacker managed to escape.
In circumstances that are still unclear, the perpetrator of the Strasbourg attack was able to take a taxi to the Neudorf district, where a new exchange of fire with the police took place, before he disappeared.
According to information from BFMTV, Cherif Chekatt, 29 years old, with an S record for his Islamist radicalization, reportedly spoke with the taxi driver. "After admitting the facts, he allegedly told him that he had acted because he wanted to 'avenge his brothers who died in Syria'," says the news channel.
"The police raided my house this morning."
Franceinfo confirms these comments. "You know what I did? I killed people", the terrorist is also reported to have said, according to statements reported by a source close to the case to France 2. "Police raided my house this morning, they found a grenade," he reportedly added.
According to Franceinfo, the taxi driver then went to a police station. He thinks he had his life saved because, as a Muslim, signs of his religion are visible in his cab, explains the public radio. Cherif Chekatt reportedly showed him his wounded arm. The taxi driver reportedly indicated that the assailant knew the streets of Strasbourg very well but seemed not to know where to go. The trip was very short," continues Franceinfo, the taxi driver having convinced the terrorist to leave the car.
Meanwhile, more and more people of dubious backgrounds are joining the YV movement just ahead of "Act 5" and observers are asking themselves whether "a war of ego and influence will be beginning to undermine the movement from within."
From the dailycrusader.com
"Uninvited "yellow vests" are trying to enter the establishment. These people are not representative of the movement, they have no legitimacy."
As always the Powers-That-Be are trying to divide and conquer anything directed against their own interests and will not shy away from inserting their agents into popular movements.
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zak
The Living Force
Cherif Chekatt shot dead by police in Strasbourg, Neudorf district.
After 48 hours of stalking, Cherif Chekatt, the author of the attack near the Christmas market, was found in the Neudorf on Thursday evening and neutralized by the police at around 9pm. The fugitive was shot dead by a police crew at 74 rue du Lazaret, in the Neudorf district, the area where he was last located on Tuesday evening.
DeepL.
Cherif Chekatt abattu par la police à Strasbourg, dans le quartier du Neudorf
After 48 hours of stalking, Cherif Chekatt, the author of the attack near the Christmas market, was found in the Neudorf on Thursday evening and neutralized by the police at around 9pm. The fugitive was shot dead by a police crew at 74 rue du Lazaret, in the Neudorf district, the area where he was last located on Tuesday evening.
DeepL.
Cherif Chekatt abattu par la police à Strasbourg, dans le quartier du Neudorf
Adaryn
The Living Force
"According to our police and justice specialists, many residents said they had seen Cherif Chekkat, walking alone, fearful, in the streets of Neudorf in the last few hours. RAID personnel went to the site and missed him by a few minutes. Tonight, the operation is due to chance: public security police officers came across Chekkat.
"He shot at a team of public security police officers who retaliated," told a police source to the AFP."
zak
The Living Force
Yellow vests: the motion of censure
The vote on the motion of censure tabled by members of the PS, PC and LFI won only 70 votes.
The essentials:
The vote on the motion of censure was supported by only 70 votes. It took 289 to make it happen.
In their motion, the left-wing MPs considered that the announcements made by Emmanuel Macron on Monday evening (removal of the CSG increase for pensioners, €100 monthly increase for smicards, tax-free overtime...), "neither fair nor responsible, are not likely to respond to the anger and demands of the French".
The right and the centrists had already indicated that they would not vote in favour of this motion of censure, while stressing that their action was not "a white paper" in favour of the government.
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan and the Rassemblement national MPs supported the motion.
During the debates, Édouard Philippe and the LREM deputies threw numerous picks at the usually divided left-wing parties, which united to table this motion.
The context of the vote, which follows the Strasbourg attack, was the subject of some heated exchanges between the socialist Olivier Faure and his opponents.
DeepL.
Gilets jaunes : le débat de la motion de censure, rejetée, minute par minute
The vote on the motion of censure tabled by members of the PS, PC and LFI won only 70 votes.
The essentials:
The vote on the motion of censure was supported by only 70 votes. It took 289 to make it happen.
In their motion, the left-wing MPs considered that the announcements made by Emmanuel Macron on Monday evening (removal of the CSG increase for pensioners, €100 monthly increase for smicards, tax-free overtime...), "neither fair nor responsible, are not likely to respond to the anger and demands of the French".
The right and the centrists had already indicated that they would not vote in favour of this motion of censure, while stressing that their action was not "a white paper" in favour of the government.
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan and the Rassemblement national MPs supported the motion.
During the debates, Édouard Philippe and the LREM deputies threw numerous picks at the usually divided left-wing parties, which united to table this motion.
The context of the vote, which follows the Strasbourg attack, was the subject of some heated exchanges between the socialist Olivier Faure and his opponents.
DeepL.
Gilets jaunes : le débat de la motion de censure, rejetée, minute par minute