I've got a work in progress that deals with some of my bible research that I'll be sharing on the forum under various topic headings. I'm locking this thread so that continuity of the text can be maintained. If you wish to discuss it, there is a separate thread for that here: https://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,39804.0.html
Josephus, Pilate and Paul: It’s Just a Matter of Time
Observations and Speculations on Parameters for a Historical Pauline Chronology
(by LKJ)
Pauline studies have taken on an all-new importance in recent years due to the development of new critical methods. As more and more research indicates that the search for a historically situated Jesus of Nazareth, as depicted in the gospels, only leads to negative returns, the focus has turned to Paul and the realization is growing that what we know as Christianity today was, essentially, invented by Paul. Perhaps “invented” is too strong a word since he certainly had a full field of inspiration all around him in the theological speculations of his time that we now understand were abundant and varied. While it appears that “Christian churches” – ecclesia populated by individuals following something or other referred to as Chrestus – existed even before Paul, Paul’s writings influenced those organizations and, ultimately, became foundational for a particular variation of early Christianity. Thus, if, in the end, we find that there is no “Jesus of Nazareth” – which seems rather certain – what then to make of what Paul was claiming about the Cross of Christ?
It seems to me that it is actually necessary to dispense with any reference to the later invention of Jesus of Nazareth of the gospels in order to get a full grip on who Paul was and what he was thinking and doing with such passionate conviction and intensity. It appears that something moved him powerfully and we might very much want to know what it was. Thus, situating him in an accurate historical context might be helpful in trying to figure out what, exactly, it was that he was actually saying.
Thus, in trying to sort out the problem of a Pauline chronology, one first has to firmly reject the use of Acts which is little more than a "historical novel" where the author picked out some authentic names and events from historians extant in his time and wrote his novel around them. Richard Pervo and others have made this abundantly clear in their detailed studies. The letters of Paul can be considered to be historical documents (with some care: see Douglas Campbell’s study) but Acts is not. There is so much of Josephus and Paul himself in the gospels and Acts that any rational historical approach would naturally conclude influence flowing from Josephus and Paul toward the later gospels and Acts. But, it's pretty clear that there is very little of this approach in biblical studies because of the a priori privileged position given to the gospels and Acts, the assumption that they are histories and not myths fables or historical fiction.
Paul was historically prior to Josephus, but Josephus is the only historian who has survived to give us a picture of the times in which Paul lived and worked. But the problem involved here has to do with using Josephus as a historical source – both from the point of view of the modern researcher AND from the point of view of the ancient authors of gospels and Acts who could not know that much that Josephus wrote was seriously embellished or even falsified. Despite problems of editorial redaction and transmission of the text, his first work, Wars, is probably the most reliable since it was written with Imperial support. On the other hand, this factor can strongly suggest that many representations were skewed in favor of the Flavians. So, with Josephus hiding or disguising many of his own doings while also doing the same for his sponsors, effectively writing Jewish and Imperial apology, the end result is a so-called history that must be handled very carefully. Obviously, the most reliable reports would be those items that were generally known to the Greek speaking/reading public anyway, though such things can still be “spun”. Josephus was definitely spinning and blowing smoke everywhere while still trying to establish himself in the eyes of his readers as a truthful historian.
The end result of this is, if the gospel writers and author of Acts utilized Josephus to compose their alleged histories – as they most certainly did, along with other texts and techniques that are not the topic of this short discussion - we find ourselves already on a double layer of shifting sand and must take great care to try to cross check if possible anything we accept as factual when we use Josephus as our historical source.
This realization leads us to reject ANY use of Acts or the gospels as historical checks. Pervo makes this abundantly evident in his analysis of the speech put into the mouth of Gamaliel in respect of Judas and Theudas. It is evident that the author of Acts was being rather careless in his use of Josephus who, in his text, mentions Theudas first, and Judas second, as though they acted in that chronological order, though it is clear in Josephus that Judas was historically the earlier character and was brought up as a digression. This reversed order was carried over into Acts due to carelessness and reveals starkly the novelizing activities – and one of the sources - of its author. Further studies by Thomas Brodie and D. R. MacDonald – and others - reveal other sources used in the composition of the gospels and Acts. It seems that creating a religious “history” was quite an industry in the second century and the writers were using anything and everything to hand to do it. All of this makes a good, critical examination of the Pauline texts even more crucial for the understanding of the origins of Christianity as we know it.
However, setting aside the theological/Christological/redactional problems that have obviously invaded the letters to some extent, we can consider the authentic letters of Paul to be the earliest Christian literature/witness extant and thus, properly seen as crucial to figuring out the whole dating/historicity of Jesus problem.
Using the letters of Paul can be problematical too as the work of Baur, Knox, Tyson, BeDuhn, Campbell, Ludemann and Trobisch (and others) reveal. However, the problems encountered there are more along the line of theology, Christology and ecclesiology, and not so much chronology and I don’t intend to engage in those issues here; I am mainly concerned with a particular problem of chronology because I think that situating Paul accurately within what might be said to be real history, might go a long way toward helping us understand what he was thinking and doing.
Although Paul does make mention of a few things that may be linked to actual historical events or personages, he does not do so in such a way as to make anything very secure in respect of real history. In one place only does he mention a historically anchored person, King Aretas of the Nabateans; though it has been suggested that “The Man of Sin” of II Thessalonians was the emperor Caligula (Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (31 August AD 12 – 24 January AD 41)). If that is the case – and it is a decent enough argument – then that can give a fairly secure date for the text of II Thessalonians of around 40 AD. Off to the side, it is interesting that Paul might have been writing his letter at around the same time that Philo was in Rome on his Embassy to Gaius. Tagging 40 AD as the time of II Thessalonians helps only a little because there are, apparently quite a few years of Pauline activity prior to the penning of that epistle.
Douglas Campbell’s conclusions about the order of the letters based on the internal evidence, and with no resort to Acts, places them in this order:
• I Thessalonians
• II Thessalonians
• Laodiceans (known as Ephesians in our NT)
• Colossians
• Philemon
• 1 Corinthians
• II Corinthians
• Galatians
• Philippians
• Romans
Campbell demonstrates, strictly from the epistolary data, that Laodiceans, Colossians, and Philemon were all written at the same time and in the same place and under the same general circumstances. He opines that it was after the second meeting in Jerusalem with the “pillars” that he describes in Corinthians and Galatians. His arguments are close and meticulous and deserve a careful reading.
It was following the events inferred from the Laodicean cluster of letters that Corinthians and Galatians were written and it is there that we find a few crumbs of chronological data. Paul does give us a few temporal periods between one thing and another though, unfortunately, as mentioned, without tying any of these remarks to an externally verifiable historical date or personage. He says, effectively, that this meeting occurred 17 years after the beginning of his ministry. A rather simple perspective that would suggest that all of his letters resulted from the issues surrounding the second meeting in Jerusalem, and that this meeting was in the early to mid 40s, results in putting the beginning of Paul's ministry between 23 and 27 AD which would be a serious problem for the accepted "Jesus timeline".
Douglas Campbell has done a masterful job of analyzing the letters for chronological clues with the interesting result that several letters that were rejected as authentic by both Baur and the later Westar scholars, achieve rehabilitation as authentic. The arguments are detailed, acute, and convincing. There is only one main weakness there and it has to do with Campbell’s attempt to establish a second chronological hook: Campbell’s reliance on an assumption regarding the above-mentioned King Aretas. He utilizes Josephus and Tacitus as his historical yardsticks and this is where the problem comes into play.
As noted, the larger, overarching problem is the need to fit the Pauline timeline into some sort of Jesus timeline and it is standard that everyone accepts that Jesus was “crucified under Pontius Pilate” – it’s part of the creed, even. Jesus had to have been crucified under Pilate before Paul’s “conversion” and the beginning of his ministry, but that can’t be too late because of the Herod Antipas/ King Aretas problem. Campbell decides that the only time Aretas could have ruled Damascus was during a short period when he was having a set-to with Herod Antipas over the divorce of Aretas’ daughter and this story comes from Josephus. He thus places Paul’s conversion at Damascus followed quickly by his missionary activity in Arabia, Syria, and Cilicia, followed by his escape from Damascus and his first visit to Jerusalem, all jammed into the period from 34 to 40/41AD. He then places the second visit to Jerusalem in 49/50, following which the Laodicean cluster was written, and then the Corinthian/Galatians/Philppians/Romans cluster. In this way, he is able to stretch that backward, the requisite 17 years, so that Paul’s conversion lands around 33/34 AD, just in time. The key to anchoring this, of course, is the Aretas/Antipas story fixed by Josephus around 36/37 AD. It certainly works, though it is a bit cramped. The Aretas story provides the context for Paul’s escape from Damascus in a basket, and his subsequent first visit to Jerusalem three years after his conversion following which he went on his merry way and a couple of years later he wrote I and II Thessalonians in 40/41 AD which took place in the 14 year period between his first and second visit to Jerusalem.
There are two problems that I see here: the first is the historicity of the Aretas/Antipas engagement. Whether or not it happened is actually irrelevant to whether or not Paul was being pursued by the governor of Damascus on behalf of Aretas if Aretas was, most certainly ruling Damascus. What is relevant is that one can no longer so firmly fix the date: it could have happened at any time between 9 BC and 40 AD, the period of the rule of Aretas. That realization unpegs Paul from a definite time window, but that is all.
The second problem is more severe: the timing of the governorship of Pontius Pilate and that, I will argue, was much earlier than tradition holds and that, in fact, the tradition of that time period was created and texts were manipulated to support it. In this sense, it is useful to have unpegged Paul from a narrow window of time because he clearly tells us about his adventures in Damascus and they could have happened earlier as well, in concert with the earlier time period of Pontius Pilate.
The severity of the problem of redating the governorship of Pontius Pilate has multiple and far reaching ramifications for all of early Christian “history”. Yet, at the same time, it frees Paul from the entanglements of a Jesus of Nazareth that he had clearly never heard of. And most definitely, Paul, as the foundation of Christian theology, Christology, eschatology, ecclesiology, needs to be freed from that sticky mess of myth and fantasy if Christianity as a viable response to our world is to survive.
In the following discussion, it may not seem apparent how a particular item bears on the topic, but please bear with me to the end; it will be worth it.
Josephus, Pilate and Paul: It’s Just a Matter of Time
Observations and Speculations on Parameters for a Historical Pauline Chronology
(by LKJ)
Pauline studies have taken on an all-new importance in recent years due to the development of new critical methods. As more and more research indicates that the search for a historically situated Jesus of Nazareth, as depicted in the gospels, only leads to negative returns, the focus has turned to Paul and the realization is growing that what we know as Christianity today was, essentially, invented by Paul. Perhaps “invented” is too strong a word since he certainly had a full field of inspiration all around him in the theological speculations of his time that we now understand were abundant and varied. While it appears that “Christian churches” – ecclesia populated by individuals following something or other referred to as Chrestus – existed even before Paul, Paul’s writings influenced those organizations and, ultimately, became foundational for a particular variation of early Christianity. Thus, if, in the end, we find that there is no “Jesus of Nazareth” – which seems rather certain – what then to make of what Paul was claiming about the Cross of Christ?
It seems to me that it is actually necessary to dispense with any reference to the later invention of Jesus of Nazareth of the gospels in order to get a full grip on who Paul was and what he was thinking and doing with such passionate conviction and intensity. It appears that something moved him powerfully and we might very much want to know what it was. Thus, situating him in an accurate historical context might be helpful in trying to figure out what, exactly, it was that he was actually saying.
Thus, in trying to sort out the problem of a Pauline chronology, one first has to firmly reject the use of Acts which is little more than a "historical novel" where the author picked out some authentic names and events from historians extant in his time and wrote his novel around them. Richard Pervo and others have made this abundantly clear in their detailed studies. The letters of Paul can be considered to be historical documents (with some care: see Douglas Campbell’s study) but Acts is not. There is so much of Josephus and Paul himself in the gospels and Acts that any rational historical approach would naturally conclude influence flowing from Josephus and Paul toward the later gospels and Acts. But, it's pretty clear that there is very little of this approach in biblical studies because of the a priori privileged position given to the gospels and Acts, the assumption that they are histories and not myths fables or historical fiction.
Paul was historically prior to Josephus, but Josephus is the only historian who has survived to give us a picture of the times in which Paul lived and worked. But the problem involved here has to do with using Josephus as a historical source – both from the point of view of the modern researcher AND from the point of view of the ancient authors of gospels and Acts who could not know that much that Josephus wrote was seriously embellished or even falsified. Despite problems of editorial redaction and transmission of the text, his first work, Wars, is probably the most reliable since it was written with Imperial support. On the other hand, this factor can strongly suggest that many representations were skewed in favor of the Flavians. So, with Josephus hiding or disguising many of his own doings while also doing the same for his sponsors, effectively writing Jewish and Imperial apology, the end result is a so-called history that must be handled very carefully. Obviously, the most reliable reports would be those items that were generally known to the Greek speaking/reading public anyway, though such things can still be “spun”. Josephus was definitely spinning and blowing smoke everywhere while still trying to establish himself in the eyes of his readers as a truthful historian.
The end result of this is, if the gospel writers and author of Acts utilized Josephus to compose their alleged histories – as they most certainly did, along with other texts and techniques that are not the topic of this short discussion - we find ourselves already on a double layer of shifting sand and must take great care to try to cross check if possible anything we accept as factual when we use Josephus as our historical source.
This realization leads us to reject ANY use of Acts or the gospels as historical checks. Pervo makes this abundantly evident in his analysis of the speech put into the mouth of Gamaliel in respect of Judas and Theudas. It is evident that the author of Acts was being rather careless in his use of Josephus who, in his text, mentions Theudas first, and Judas second, as though they acted in that chronological order, though it is clear in Josephus that Judas was historically the earlier character and was brought up as a digression. This reversed order was carried over into Acts due to carelessness and reveals starkly the novelizing activities – and one of the sources - of its author. Further studies by Thomas Brodie and D. R. MacDonald – and others - reveal other sources used in the composition of the gospels and Acts. It seems that creating a religious “history” was quite an industry in the second century and the writers were using anything and everything to hand to do it. All of this makes a good, critical examination of the Pauline texts even more crucial for the understanding of the origins of Christianity as we know it.
However, setting aside the theological/Christological/redactional problems that have obviously invaded the letters to some extent, we can consider the authentic letters of Paul to be the earliest Christian literature/witness extant and thus, properly seen as crucial to figuring out the whole dating/historicity of Jesus problem.
Using the letters of Paul can be problematical too as the work of Baur, Knox, Tyson, BeDuhn, Campbell, Ludemann and Trobisch (and others) reveal. However, the problems encountered there are more along the line of theology, Christology and ecclesiology, and not so much chronology and I don’t intend to engage in those issues here; I am mainly concerned with a particular problem of chronology because I think that situating Paul accurately within what might be said to be real history, might go a long way toward helping us understand what he was thinking and doing.
Although Paul does make mention of a few things that may be linked to actual historical events or personages, he does not do so in such a way as to make anything very secure in respect of real history. In one place only does he mention a historically anchored person, King Aretas of the Nabateans; though it has been suggested that “The Man of Sin” of II Thessalonians was the emperor Caligula (Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus Germanicus (31 August AD 12 – 24 January AD 41)). If that is the case – and it is a decent enough argument – then that can give a fairly secure date for the text of II Thessalonians of around 40 AD. Off to the side, it is interesting that Paul might have been writing his letter at around the same time that Philo was in Rome on his Embassy to Gaius. Tagging 40 AD as the time of II Thessalonians helps only a little because there are, apparently quite a few years of Pauline activity prior to the penning of that epistle.
Douglas Campbell’s conclusions about the order of the letters based on the internal evidence, and with no resort to Acts, places them in this order:
• I Thessalonians
• II Thessalonians
• Laodiceans (known as Ephesians in our NT)
• Colossians
• Philemon
• 1 Corinthians
• II Corinthians
• Galatians
• Philippians
• Romans
Campbell demonstrates, strictly from the epistolary data, that Laodiceans, Colossians, and Philemon were all written at the same time and in the same place and under the same general circumstances. He opines that it was after the second meeting in Jerusalem with the “pillars” that he describes in Corinthians and Galatians. His arguments are close and meticulous and deserve a careful reading.
It was following the events inferred from the Laodicean cluster of letters that Corinthians and Galatians were written and it is there that we find a few crumbs of chronological data. Paul does give us a few temporal periods between one thing and another though, unfortunately, as mentioned, without tying any of these remarks to an externally verifiable historical date or personage. He says, effectively, that this meeting occurred 17 years after the beginning of his ministry. A rather simple perspective that would suggest that all of his letters resulted from the issues surrounding the second meeting in Jerusalem, and that this meeting was in the early to mid 40s, results in putting the beginning of Paul's ministry between 23 and 27 AD which would be a serious problem for the accepted "Jesus timeline".
Douglas Campbell has done a masterful job of analyzing the letters for chronological clues with the interesting result that several letters that were rejected as authentic by both Baur and the later Westar scholars, achieve rehabilitation as authentic. The arguments are detailed, acute, and convincing. There is only one main weakness there and it has to do with Campbell’s attempt to establish a second chronological hook: Campbell’s reliance on an assumption regarding the above-mentioned King Aretas. He utilizes Josephus and Tacitus as his historical yardsticks and this is where the problem comes into play.
As noted, the larger, overarching problem is the need to fit the Pauline timeline into some sort of Jesus timeline and it is standard that everyone accepts that Jesus was “crucified under Pontius Pilate” – it’s part of the creed, even. Jesus had to have been crucified under Pilate before Paul’s “conversion” and the beginning of his ministry, but that can’t be too late because of the Herod Antipas/ King Aretas problem. Campbell decides that the only time Aretas could have ruled Damascus was during a short period when he was having a set-to with Herod Antipas over the divorce of Aretas’ daughter and this story comes from Josephus. He thus places Paul’s conversion at Damascus followed quickly by his missionary activity in Arabia, Syria, and Cilicia, followed by his escape from Damascus and his first visit to Jerusalem, all jammed into the period from 34 to 40/41AD. He then places the second visit to Jerusalem in 49/50, following which the Laodicean cluster was written, and then the Corinthian/Galatians/Philppians/Romans cluster. In this way, he is able to stretch that backward, the requisite 17 years, so that Paul’s conversion lands around 33/34 AD, just in time. The key to anchoring this, of course, is the Aretas/Antipas story fixed by Josephus around 36/37 AD. It certainly works, though it is a bit cramped. The Aretas story provides the context for Paul’s escape from Damascus in a basket, and his subsequent first visit to Jerusalem three years after his conversion following which he went on his merry way and a couple of years later he wrote I and II Thessalonians in 40/41 AD which took place in the 14 year period between his first and second visit to Jerusalem.
There are two problems that I see here: the first is the historicity of the Aretas/Antipas engagement. Whether or not it happened is actually irrelevant to whether or not Paul was being pursued by the governor of Damascus on behalf of Aretas if Aretas was, most certainly ruling Damascus. What is relevant is that one can no longer so firmly fix the date: it could have happened at any time between 9 BC and 40 AD, the period of the rule of Aretas. That realization unpegs Paul from a definite time window, but that is all.
The second problem is more severe: the timing of the governorship of Pontius Pilate and that, I will argue, was much earlier than tradition holds and that, in fact, the tradition of that time period was created and texts were manipulated to support it. In this sense, it is useful to have unpegged Paul from a narrow window of time because he clearly tells us about his adventures in Damascus and they could have happened earlier as well, in concert with the earlier time period of Pontius Pilate.
The severity of the problem of redating the governorship of Pontius Pilate has multiple and far reaching ramifications for all of early Christian “history”. Yet, at the same time, it frees Paul from the entanglements of a Jesus of Nazareth that he had clearly never heard of. And most definitely, Paul, as the foundation of Christian theology, Christology, eschatology, ecclesiology, needs to be freed from that sticky mess of myth and fantasy if Christianity as a viable response to our world is to survive.
In the following discussion, it may not seem apparent how a particular item bears on the topic, but please bear with me to the end; it will be worth it.