144 Cubits - 144 Atoms

[Guardian]

Word-salad shooting at it's finest. Any more of that and I'd need to pipe breathe to ward off the migraine!

First thing that ran through my mind was the Monty Python skit:

"Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate."

:P

 

[mkrnhr]

Hi Gonzo. I understand your point. What bothered me was that this reader could be a newcomer and people can be perturbed with some superficial similarities. Lies can be hidden among some truth and maybe if the reader asked, it could be in order to have more data. I'm rereading the post alongside with your explanation and it is clear that i did not understand and i lacked some external consideration with you.

 

[Seamus]

Word-salad shooting at it's finest. Any more of that and I'd need to pipe breathe to ward off the migraine!

First thing that ran through my mind was the Monty Python skit:

"Every sperm is sacred.
Every sperm is great.
If a sperm is wasted,
God gets quite irate."

:P

 

[he_who_supplants]

With respect and gratitude for everyone here, I am the person that forwarded that link to Laura.

First things first, I wanted to apologize for being carried away so easily, however I can confess that there were personal reasons for clinging to this, which was my first mistake in the first place. I'm not just some other grub beginner, although my actions have said otherwise. I don't want to post personal things here, but I feel that I must do this to explain my foolishness. I'm adopted and have had the aching urge to be able to filter between within my adopted parents' realm of understanding and my own esoteric knowledge, so that I may remain in harmony with them. This is due to the fact that they're all I have in this material world to depend on, and I'm slipping away from even them. I left the church almost three years ago because I was shunned for asking questions. I have, since then, searched for "greener pastures" if you will, in every particular information genre that I could get my hands on. I was taken away quite easily by this imposter because he seemed to unify everything that I had researched, and my ego's beckoning to bring myself back together on a focal point where I could remain somewhat more stable with my parents, if that makes sense. I'm naturally a very unstable, phobic person, mostly due to my overly-receptive and sometimes self-imposed empathic abilities. I'm trying to do a balancing act with this, my spiritual development, meditation, work, and scraping to survive in North Dakota. I don't expect pity, not at all. We all have trials and tribulations to bring us to infinity with lessons learned, and I realize that. All I ask for is your understanding of my situation, and realize that I do wish to learn, and to sharpen the blade that is my intuition and discernment. However, I also realize that my emotions and others' get very much in the way at times, and I am trying my hardest to control them. That is all.

Thank you for listening.

~He who supplants

 

[he_who_supplants]

And the use of the word grub was not meant to be derogatory. I usually refer to enlightenment as being a metamorphosis, as many, including Chopra, do. Just clarifying.

 

[mkrnhr]

Welcome to the forum he_who_supplants :)

 

[Nawd]

Looking forward to your intro he_who_supplants. Welcome to the forum. :)

 

[andi]

Hi he_who_supplants, and welcome to the forum ;)

 

[manitoban]

Hi, he_who_supplants,

Welcome! We encourage all new members to make a post in the Newbies section -- something about yourself and how you found the forum. You can read some of the other threads to see how it's done -- looking forward to seeing you there :)

 

[Gonzo]

Hi, he_who_supplants.

Thank you for your candid honesty. If I had a dime for every wrong turn I made, well, I'd give a lot of it to Laura, the Signs of the Times team, Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind and the Quantum Future Group, for helping me adjust my tool of discernment.

Like many here, I have wandered a winding path, full of dark corners promising illumination. One thing that was really hard for me to learn was the concept of things resonating with me was a planted program, thanks to the new age. I thought that the sense of things resonating with me was quite an accurate way of discerning appropriateness.

Sadly,this was so untrue. How could I possibly know my own resonant frequency when there were (and still are to a large degree) the added vibrations of programs, emotions, wishful thinking and an unhealthy body interfering and overpowering any true vibration I thought I had.

Geez, I hope that made sense.

Anyway, all this to say, it's a learning process, this life of ours, and the more we learn, the better equipped we are to live in authenticity.

Learning to walk usually involves falling and, as long as we get up after each fall, dust the embarrassment off so we can learn how we tripped, we will eventually become stable enough in our stride that we can lend support to others still awkward in step.

Welcome.

Gonzo

 

[he_who_supplants]

Hi, he_who_supplants.

Thank you for your candid honesty. If I had a dime for every wrong turn I made, well, I'd give a lot of it to Laura, the Signs of the Times team, Fellowship of the Cosmic Mind and the Quantum Future Group, for helping me adjust my tool of discernment.

Like many here, I have wandered a winding path, full of dark corners promising illumination. One thing that was really hard for me to learn was the concept of things resonating with me was a planted program, thanks to the new age. I thought that the sense of things resonating with me was quite an accurate way of discerning appropriateness.

Sadly,this was so untrue. How could I possibly know my own resonant frequency when there were (and still are to a large degree) the added vibrations of programs, emotions, wishful thinking and an unhealthy body interfering and overpowering any true vibration I thought I had.

Geez, I hope that made sense.

Anyway, all this to say, it's a learning process, this life of ours, and the more we learn, the better equipped we are to live in authenticity.

Learning to walk usually involves falling and, as long as we get up after each fall, dust the embarrassment off so we can learn how we tripped, we will eventually become stable enough in our stride that we can lend support to others still awkward in step.

Welcome.

Gonzo

Thanks to everyone who welcomed me here, and thanks again for the advice Gonzo. And that made sense, don't worry. Thank you for the support. I'll re-read all the information I have on the Transient Passengers and come back to hopefully have a better understanding of all of this. Enjoy your day.

 

[henry]

I'm adopted and have had the aching urge to be able to filter between within my adopted parents' realm of understanding and my own esoteric knowledge, so that I may remain in harmony with them. This is due to the fact that they're all I have in this material world to depend on, and I'm slipping away from even them.

he_who_supplants, it can be a very painful process when we start to search for answers and find that the search leads us away from family. Believe me, you are not alone in going through it.

Do you know anything of the work of G.I. Gurdjieff? He talks about the concept of “external consideration”.

External considering is however not the same thing as being socially polite or considerate, although it may be expressed in this manner.

The key concept is to be aware of and to adapt oneself to the level of being and knowledge of others. Thus, external considering involves for example not talking about things which would simply offend others' beliefs or simply not be understood. External considering relates to an idea of general good will towards the environment, then in the sense of letting the environment be as it wishes and responding to its requests in a manner that honors its right to be as it will.

It can be very difficult in the early stages to learn how to practice external considering. In dealing with parents, it often means keeping silent on many things that are the most important to you because they are unable to understand, because it might frighten them, because it threatens their core beliefs. So often we must let them think that nothing has changed in our beliefs, while at the same time being considerate, kind, and understanding in our actions. If they are to see any changes, let them see positive changes of concern and caring.

Of course, the specific circumstances in each family are different. I am not talking about how someone would act if the family relationships were abusive.

Regular practice of the Éiriú Eolas breathing programme will help you in this work with your family, as well in helping you become more stable and less phobic. Changing your diet might also help. You can find a lot of helpful information in our threads on Diet and Health.