18 years old range

[wanderingthomas]

Hey guys!

I'm almost 18 years old now so I was just wondering how many of us are in that range here on the forum?

Would really like to chat with some of you since we don't really get a chance to talk to people of similar interest and views and our age.

It's pretty hard to be 18 and also a person that strives to inform one self and generally grow AND have what is these days considered to be a normal social life. So, you can imagine that most of my friends are merely "colleges" to me. Only a few are what could be considered friends, people of trust after 3 years of experience with them in school. I also got "into this business" when I was about 13 to 14 years old so I always stud out a little bit.

Anyways, would be glad to here from you!

 

[Carl]

Hi Domagoj.

I'm 21, joined here when I was 19. I think for anyone of any age it's a long and difficult journey, but you can count yourself lucky that you don't have decades of false programming to contend with, I guess. Then again, you also have the whole process of still growing up and becoming an adult, but the knowledge here will really help with that, if applied. And you also have to reach a certain point of being sick of all the BS before you can make progress towards something real.

I agree that it's pretty hard being alienated, especially when you're still young, but know that everyone deals with that too. We're a super rare breed here, and it can get lonely, it's just something you have to learn to deal with.

If there's any particular issues you'd like to share, I'm sure you'll receive good feedback here :).

 

[Nienna]

Hey guys!

I'm almost 18 years old now so I was just wondering how many of us are in that range here on the forum?

Would really like to chat with some of you since we don't really get a chance to talk to people of similar interest and views and our age.

It's pretty hard to be 18 and also a person that strives to inform one self and generally grow AND have what is these days considered to be a normal social life. So, you can imagine that most of my friends are merely "colleges" to me. Only a few are what could be considered friends, people of trust after 3 years of experience with them in school. I also got "into this business" when I was about 13 to 14 years old so I always stud out a little bit.

Anyways, would be glad to here from you!

Just a reminder that this is not a chat room type of forum. It is a research forum so any "chatting" would be considered noise.

However, if you would like to discuss any of the things that we discuss here, regardless of age, please do so. :) If you have special items you would like to discuss, you can use the search function in the upper right hand corner of the page to see if there is already a thread on that subject. Note that you can search the entire forum, or a specific board or thread. Just click on the drop-down menu which way you want to go.

 

[SMM]

Hey guys!

I'm almost 18 years old now so I was just wondering how many of us are in that range here on the forum?

Would really like to chat with some of you since we don't really get a chance to talk to people of similar interest and views and our age.

It's pretty hard to be 18 and also a person that strives to inform one self and generally grow AND have what is these days considered to be a normal social life. So, you can imagine that most of my friends are merely "colleges" to me. Only a few are what could be considered friends, people of trust after 3 years of experience with them in school. I also got "into this business" when I was about 13 to 14 years old so I always stud out a little bit.

Anyways, would be glad to here from you!

Hey Domagoj,

I joined the forum when I was 18, although had been following the material longer.

I'm 19. I think what Carlise says hits the target - the knowledge here, when applied, is of great assistance, as well as reaching the point of being sick of all the BS [there's a lot of that]. It can definitely get lonely or feel physically isolating as many around have no desire or interest in the matters presented here - or fear shaking the status quo, the unearthing of the false programs.

One of the really ironic things about a 'normal social life' at this age, I find, is that generally most people within such a context do feel alienated. It is an age of growth & finding yourself. In fact the thing that held me back from joining or participating earlier [despite forum rules I read saying you had to be 18 or older] was striving for a normal life, socially etc, a life like I saw others lead, which merely didn't mesh with my innards.

Glad to have you here, it is a most resourceful place to be. The search function works wonders too! :)

 

[Chris]

Hi Domagoj.

I'm 21, joined here when I was 19. I think for anyone of any age it's a long and difficult journey, but you can count yourself lucky that you don't have decades of false programming to contend with, I guess. Then again, you also have the whole process of still growing up and becoming an adult, but the knowledge here will really help with that, if applied. And you also have to reach a certain point of being sick of all the BS before you can make progress towards something real.

I agree that it's pretty hard being alienated, especially when you're still young, but know that everyone deals with that too. We're a super rare breed here, and it can get lonely, it's just something you have to learn to deal with.

If there's any particular issues you'd like to share, I'm sure you'll receive good feedback here :).

I agree with Carlise and second his advice. You can/and probably will feel very alienated at your age especially if no one around you (even your closest friends or family members) is interested in the kind of work that goes on in this forum. Therefore, my advise to you would be to prepare a strategic enclosure if you can (read Gnosis by Boris Mouravieff), and refrain from talking out about what you learn here unless you happen to find people who are seeking for the same info and ask for it. Respecting other's free will is an important part of learning and it can be very frustrating to see people around you not share your view of the world. And it is necessary also because, in general it seems to be an empirical law that if you do not follow this advice, you are going to face a lot of unnecessary flak and criticism from people around you.

I am 21 and joined the forum when I was 19 but it has taken me a long time to get off from "sitting on the fence" as there was a lot of emotional dumping and knowledge assimilation that I had to undergo before I could reach the point where I could contribute without possibly making just noise.

Personally, I am leading a double-life as far as I can see. My inner life is different from outward "social" life. It is important for me to maintain this division so as to avoid unwarranted attention from people who are too enmeshed in their own beliefs. My friends are not interested in what I read or learn here and they might think I am crazy if I ever make the mistake of trying to explain all I have to come to know here. And that would be a tragedy, not just for me but also for them, because then I would have taken away from them an opportunity to try and seek answers for themselves. This is why you have to really be sick of the falsehood of your former beliefs in order to find the Way. Plus, it gives me a chance to practice external consideration and reduce lies that I tell myself.

This is not to say that I do not talk about what I have learnt at all. I do try to appeal to their more reasonable side and talk about issues which are not very "conspiratorial". I try to push them and make them see contradictions in official narratives and the falseness of some of our culturally acquired beliefs. This is a slow process and I don't know how successful it ultimately is but I have to remember that everyone's lives is theirs to lead just as this is mine. :)

 

[wanderingthomas]

Hi Domagoj.

I'm 21, joined here when I was 19. I think for anyone of any age it's a long and difficult journey, but you can count yourself lucky that you don't have decades of false programming to contend with, I guess. Then again, you also have the whole process of still growing up and becoming an adult, but the knowledge here will really help with that, if applied. And you also have to reach a certain point of being sick of all the BS before you can make progress towards something real.

I agree that it's pretty hard being alienated, especially when you're still young, but know that everyone deals with that too. We're a super rare breed here, and it can get lonely, it's just something you have to learn to deal with.

If there's any particular issues you'd like to share, I'm sure you'll receive good feedback here :).

I agree with Carlise and second his advice. You can/and probably will feel very alienated at your age especially if no one around you (even your closest friends or family members) is interested in the kind of work that goes on in this forum. Therefore, my advise to you would be to prepare a strategic enclosure if you can (read Gnosis by Boris Mouravieff), and refrain from talking out about what you learn here unless you happen to find people who are seeking for the same info and ask for it. Respecting others free will is an important part of learning and it can be very frustrating to see people around you not share your view of the world. And it is necessary also because, in general it seems to be an empirical law that if you do not follow this advice, you are going to face a lot of unnecessary flak and criticism from people around you.

I am 21 and joined the forum when I was 19 but it has taken me a long time to get off from "sitting on the fence" as there was a lot of emotional dumping and knowledge assimilation that I had to undergo before I could reach the point where I could contribute without possibly making just noise.

Personally, I am leading a double-life as far as I can see. My inner life is different from outward "social" life. It is important for me to maintain this division so as to avoid unwarranted attention from people who are too enmeshed in their own beliefs. My friends are not interested in what I read or learn here and they might think I am crazy if I ever make the mistake of trying to explain all I have to come to know here. And that would be a tragedy, not just for me but also for them, because then I would have taken away from them an opportunity to try and seek answers for themselves. This is why you have to really be sick of the falsehood of your former beliefs in order to find the Way. Plus, it gives me a chance to practice external consideration and reduce lies that I tell myself.

This is not to say that I do not talk about what I have learnt at all. I do try to appeal to their more reasonable side and talk about issues which are not very "conspiratorial". I try to push them and make them see contradictions in official narratives and the falseness of some of our culturally acquired beliefs. This is a slow process and I don't know how successful it ultimately is but I have to remember that everyone's lives is theirs to lead just as this is mine. :)

Thanks for the great advices everyone! Probably the hardest part to me is actually applying the assimilated knowledge from what I've been able to see.

And chrismcdude, well that's exactly the life I've been leading for the past couple of years. And I didn't even read Gnosis, the strategic enclosure just came naturally. Just became a bit fed up with the isolation, that's all.

Now, back to learning! Been in Spain and Italy for the past week so missed a lot of the Sott news. :)

 

[RedFox]

Just became a bit fed up with the isolation, that's all.

fwiw I think it's worth remembering that's a normal thing we all go through, being human and all. Helping others on the forum and networking hear can help a great deal.
The following may be useful to consider:

http://www.sott.net/article/263639-We-are-wired-to-network-with-others-How-the-brain-creates-the-buzz-that-helps-ideas-spread

We're wired to want to share information with other people. I think that is a profound statement about the social nature of our minds.

Their is always someone on the forum - it being a global community. So you are never truly isolated if you think about it, and network. :)

 

[SMM]

Just became a bit fed up with the isolation, that's all.

Domagoj, have you read The Wave? There is a quote from ch. 52 that may be of relevance:

A very simple way of looking at it is in terms of what is popularly called Stockholm syndrome. A person who is not alienated from a world run amok, a system that is clearly operating based on manipulation and terror tactics has dissociated and identified with the oppressor; he or she has sold out in order to survive. The dynamics of Stockholm syndrome directly address the issue of those who view life as meaningful in the terms described in the SETI study as “desirable.” Victims have to concentrate on survival, becoming highly attuned to the approval or disapproval of the social norms and requiring avoidance of direct, honest reaction to destructive treatment.

But the alienated person is one who does not succumb to the system, the terrorists, the Matrix. To be alienated, in the terms of the SETI study, is to be free of Stockholm syndrome. And this, of course, poses its own set of problems.

There is more on the topic there - here's to a double life ;)

 

[wanderingthomas]

Just became a bit fed up with the isolation, that's all.

Domagoj, have you read The Wave? There is a quote from ch. 52 that may be of relevance:

A very simple way of looking at it is in terms of what is popularly called Stockholm syndrome. A person who is not alienated from a world run amok, a system that is clearly operating based on manipulation and terror tactics has dissociated and identified with the oppressor; he or she has sold out in order to survive. The dynamics of Stockholm syndrome directly address the issue of those who view life as meaningful in the terms described in the SETI study as “desirable.” Victims have to concentrate on survival, becoming highly attuned to the approval or disapproval of the social norms and requiring avoidance of direct, honest reaction to destructive treatment.

But the alienated person is one who does not succumb to the system, the terrorists, the Matrix. To be alienated, in the terms of the SETI study, is to be free of Stockholm syndrome. And this, of course, poses its own set of problems.

There is more on the topic there - here's to a double life ;)

Oh indeed I have, twice for now.

But that quote is actually very helpful! Thanks and here here! :)