1st, 2nd degree burns - need advice

[nicklebleu]

Hi Serg,

Sorry to hear from you predicament ...

Do you have any idea what grade burning you have?
First or superficial second don't need a particular treatment as long as they are kept clean and don't get infected. Pain medication is the only necessary thing.
Deep second degree and third degree need medical treatment ... silver coating dressing and regular checks.

If you get a fever or the wound starts to look funny (developing pus and a bad smell) you DEFINITELY need medical advice!

Hope that helps ...
All the best!
Nick

 

[pstott]

If your burns are 3rd degree that indicates damage to the underlying tissue, which may require more than just topical treatment.

Ist and 2nd degree are easier to treat. Keep the area clean and avoid movement as much as possible for the first several days. As mentiones aloe promotes healing, as does Zinc ointment. If it looks like there is danger of infection use an antibiotic such as polysporin. There are also topical anaesthetic creams and sprays that can be used to reduce discomfort.

If necessary to bandage the area, change dressings at least daily for the first several days.

There are also homeopathic remedies for burns.

Follow the link for more information:

http://www.doctorbhatia.com/diseases-and-treatment/skin-and-hair/burn-homeopathy-treatment-and-homeopathic-remedies/

 

[Search]

Hi Elisa, the brother of my wife said that honey can help. But I'm already healing it with the gel. Thank a lot for advice.

Hi Brewer, thanks for adveces. I trying to move ass less ass I can. I almost remove all hear from the burned area.

Hi nicklebleu, I've got 2nd grade on my private part and 1st on my legs. But in the hospital when I was leaving them I filling in documents that I refused to be hospitalized, they write that I have 2-3 grade burns. But I read on the web and it is definately not 3-d. According to what I saw on the web I'm sure it is not 3-d.

Thanks pstott for advices.

Also I forget to say that in the questionnaire had to fill in they ask whether I smoke, but do not ask if I drink alcohol. A huge amout of people in Ukraine drinking and considering that alcohol is not compatible with most medicine. And I don't get what is the connection between smoking and burns, unless you are burned with the cigarette.
I felt so ease after taking the decission to refuse from their treatment, like my intuition told me not to stay there even if I do not completely know how I will treat myself. Now I'm sure that I made the right decission.

Edit: spellcheck & few words adding

 

[rylek]

Also I forget to say that in the questionnaire had to fill in they ask whether I smoke, but do not ask if I drink alcohol. A huge amout of people in Ukraine drinking and considering that alcohol is not compatible with most medicine. And I don't get what is the connection between smoking and burns, unless you are burned with the cigarette.

I think the question about smoking is part of the standard procedure and that gets asked routinely in hospitals. Since smoking is considered bad it is maybe meant to re-assure you that they actually care about your well being. Just my take and I could be wrong :)

 

[Psalehesost]

Also I forget to say that in the questionnaire had to fill in they ask whether I smoke, but do not ask if I drink alcohol. A huge amout of people in Ukraine drinking and considering that alcohol is not compatible with most medicine. And I don't get what is the connection between smoking and burns, unless you are burned with the cigarette.

I think the question about smoking is part of the standard procedure and that gets asked routinely in hospitals. Since smoking is considered bad it is maybe meant to re-assure you that they actually care about your well being. Just my take and I could be wrong :)

It is also possible that they're gathering statistics which, if suitable, can then be used to justify the usual kinds of propaganda: "See? Yet another example of how smoking is very, very dangerous!"

 

[Graalsword]

Also I forget to say that in the questionnaire had to fill in they ask whether I smoke, but do not ask if I drink alcohol. A huge amout of people in Ukraine drinking and considering that alcohol is not compatible with most medicine. And I don't get what is the connection between smoking and burns, unless you are burned with the cigarette.

I think the question about smoking is part of the standard procedure and that gets asked routinely in hospitals. Since smoking is considered bad it is maybe meant to re-assure you that they actually care about your well being. Just my take and I could be wrong :)

It is also possible that they're gathering statistics which, if suitable, can then be used to justify the usual kinds of propaganda: "See? Yet another example of how smoking is very, very dangerous!"

Yes, that could be true. But what one say in such a case? "Yes" so that they can see that one is doing pretty well in spite of the cigarrette (I mean in the cases there is not a huge lungs problem that they would associate with cigs.), or "No" in order to avoid the Doctors lecturing on the "evils of tobacco" (in any case)?

 

[Psalehesost]

Yes, that could be true. But what one say in such a case? "Yes" so that they can see that one is doing pretty well in spite of the cigarrette (I mean in the cases there is not a huge lungs problem that they would associate with cigs.), or "No" in order to avoid the Doctors lecturing on the "evils of tobacco" (in any case)?

I don't have any general advice - no matter what, bogus claims about "dangers" related to smoking will be made. And perhaps handling the "lecture" situation without mechanical reaction could be a useful exercise - or simply a waste of time and energy.

I was struck, some time after making my previous post, by another possibility of the purpose behind such questions: Simply to cause an association between smoking on the one hand and illness and injury on the other, thereby making smokers feel uneasy about smoking, and non-smokers feel hostile towards smoking and smokers.

 

[Graalsword]

I don't have any general advice - no matter what, bogus claims about "dangers" related to smoking will be made. And perhaps handling the "lecture" situation without mechanical reaction could be a useful exercise - or simply a waste of time and energy.

Yes, you are right, that's a good one. Just adapting the response to the specific situation, in certain situations could be "yes" and in others could be "no".

 

[Voyageur]

Just caught this thread Serg and it has been over a week now and hope you are healing well; this is not nice. Every time i read about burns it hits hard. Your thread stands out too because just last weekend my mom passed me a book while smoking a cigarette on her patio called 'Tiny Dancer' written by Anthony Flacco about a young 9 year old girl from Afghanistan who "accidentally fell into a kerosene fire while heating water for a bath." She was left for dead and somehow ended up in hands that cared, eventually being treated by a Dr. Peter Grossman (plastic surgeon) in the US who reconstructed her. This was an amazing effort by many people and especially the will/spirit of this child. It is horrific to see her in those pages and so heart warming to see her smile after her treatments and changes.

Fwiw, i've had two encounters with burns. The fist was as a young kid falling into a camp fire with my hand (2nd degree). At the time, rinsed in cold water and then butter was applied; they say this is the wrong approach, yet the recovery was very quick and complete. The second time was in an industrial accident in the late 70's (summer job) whereby I took 3rd degree burns to the leg (lessons here). At the time it seemed as if it would heal, yet infection set in and that was that, it became much more serious and skin grafting came next.

Here is the link to the book cited above if interested.

http://books.google.ca/books/about/Tiny_dancer.html?id=0wYquvOj2DQC&redir_esc=y

Take good care Serg! :)

 

[Avala]

Re: 1st, 2nd degree burns - need advice

Hi, Serg, glad that all goes well :)

Hi Avala, that lady whom my wife met seemed to have mentioned this jel, but my five already bought the other jel and we don’t want to mix them and your post was after my wife went to the pharmacy. Can you give me the Latin name of the active components of in order for me to know if it is the same the lady spoke about.

I cant help you, on the box it is only said: "bees wax, olive oil and herbal extracts, all natural" (I believe it is, you can eat it, and it cant last long outside the fridge :) ) No chemical compounds listed.

 

[echo]

Hi Serg,

Hope your burns are healing well.

Another treatment that may be worth trying is lavender oil. I have tried it only on minor burns and it seems to work. You can read a little bit more about it here:

_http://www.joys-of-lavender.com/lavender-oil-and-burns.html

:)

 

[caballero reyes]

TEPEZCOHUITE OR "THE TREE OF THE SKIN"

Reino: Plantas.
División: Magnoliophyta.
Clase: Magnoliopsida (Dicotiledoneas).
Subclase: Rosidae.
Orden: Fabales.
Familia: Mimosoidae – Mimosaceae.
Especie: Acacia tenuifolia (L) Willd.

Tepezcohuite is the most famous medicine in Mexico for over a thousand years old heals burns. It's anti-inflammatory, great power of cell regeneration, has bacteriostatic qualities, antiseptic and analgesic.
The part used is the reddish bark of the tree that is rich in minerals like cooper, manganese, magnesium and zinc.
It was considered miraculous when it was used on the victims of the 1985 earthquake in mexico city hospitals. It is marketed.

 

[nicklebleu]

Hi Serg,

Just wanted to check back in ... and ask how your burns are going?
I hope you are healing well ...

 

[rylek]

Just caught this thread Serg and it has been over a week now and hope you are healing well; this is not nice. Every time i read about burns it hits hard. Your thread stands out too because just last weekend my mom passed me a book while smoking a cigarette on her patio called 'Tiny Dancer' written by Anthony Flacco about a young 9 year old girl from Afghanistan who "accidentally fell into a kerosene fire while heating water for a bath." She was left for dead and somehow ended up in hands that cared, eventually being treated by a Dr. Peter Grossman (plastic surgeon) in the US who reconstructed her. This was an amazing effort by many people and especially the will/spirit of this child. It is horrific to see her in those pages and so heart warming to see her smile after her treatments and changes.

Thank you for that recommendation Voyageur, that looks like a must read. Reading about cases such as this of extreme suffering, it just puts everything into perspective about how easy the lives for the few fortunate of us are, us who don't have to face daily violence and fear of death, suffering from horrible injuries, both physical and mental, hunger, displacement and the myriad of tragedies that are part of this existence.

 

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I'm getting better. I used to sleep badly because I was afraid to damage my wound any further because I stir a lot. A few days ago was some magical rain. My wife wakes me up (she knew that that I just love rain, It was already daytime) I hear the rain and go to sleep again. When I woke up I felt so good after it. I don't take sunlight very well, especially now, when it is really hot and seems like something wrong with the sun. But I was lucky for a couple of days there was rainy weather. :)
For few days I've got temperature, 37-37.5 degrees C., but I almost didn't feel it. I read in the web about what can cause it, there said that it because of pus (maybe there is another word, but I don't know it) on the wound. I tried to clean it, but I couldn't do it completely. The pus appeared because of some infection, I think it could be there from the start (maybe I even get it in the hospital), but it just developed with some time. The Solcoseryl Gel is amazing (the made of the blood of the breast-fed calves), I would be already healed if I don't have this pus. The wound around this pus is almost healed and my legs are almost healed. I also bought the Solcoseryl ointment, it is for the second stage of healing proccess, when the wound is covered with some skin. I already used for few days on my legs.
Back to the pus, I found in the web that the ointment that sucks out the pus. It is named Vishnevsogo's ointment. We put bandages on the woud for 2 days. I was feeling better. Then my wife, accidentally spooked on the phone with one of her acquaintances, she is a doctor. She said that I've got burns, and she recommends some medicine. She said that just recently they have been treating someone who got burns.
She recommended Baneocin, which contains two bactericidal (kills bacteria) antibiotics. My doesn't like chemicals, I'm feel some effects of it on my body, but it seems to be killing the remaining bacteria.