2 dreams, 1 night - Importance of salt and networking?

miguel angel

Jedi Council Member
FOTCM Member
I would like to share with you this couple of dreams that I had the same night:

14/07/2016 I am in front of a building that is the place where I worked a few years ago. (It's a few kilometers away from my home). I'm on the street. I am talking to a client from my actual job (in real life I know him since many years ago). He is the owner of a company that manufactures kitchen and bath cabinets. He tells me I should visit him because they have just published "a book about salt". ¿? My father appears (they know each other in real life) and they start to chat about the old times and wood machinery. - The curious thing is that I had to get a sick leave 3 months ago (I have had a burnout, emotional depression, anxiety, stress which I am treating with professionals, I am quite well now and expect to come back to work in September), and I have not been with this client for 5 months.

Due to it has no sense that this person talks to me about "salt" I interpret it I SHOULD consider taking back iodine + salt or at least salt. But due to I am having anti-depressants I do not want to start with the iodine (lugol) + Nac + Selenium + Alpha Lipoid Acid + niacin amide + B2 + Vit.C because of the possible or unknown reactions that it may cause. The following day I had a glass of salt in the morning and I had a bad reaction in my stomach. I have stopped it and I'm thinking about to start again or wait.

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The same night: I am driving through one of the entrance to my city, it's an uphill road, suddenly from my right it appears a kind of tandem bicycle but with 3 people on it (I don't know if there exist a word for that bicycle), I step on the gas pedal to overtake them but I realize I can't. I decide to quit my foot from the gas pedal and let them to go on. I gaze them. I come to the conclusion I have not been able to overtake them because they were pedaling in unison.

I wake up and think about it like this: I have to come back to write on the forum and do networking.
 
Miguel Ángel said:
The curious thing is that I had to get a sick leave 3 months ago (I have had a burnout, emotional depression, anxiety, stress which I am treating with professionals, I am quite well now and expect to come back to work in September), and I have not been with this client for 5 months.

Hello Miguel Ángel,

It does sounds like you need more networking and I'm glad you chimed in.

I think it is interesting how you mention your sick leave in passing, almost as if it is nothing, "business as usual". I'm happy to hear that you're feeling better though.

From what you say, it sounds like you didn't really met the criteria for anti-depressants. I could imagine what you went through, however, a burnout and all that goes with it is not a reason to take medications that might make it more difficult for you to get in touch with yourself. Working with a dedicated therapist might be more fruitful.

A little bit of food for thought:

https://www.sott.net/article/196903-Excerpts-from-Robert-Whitakers-Anatomy-of-an-Epidemic-Psychiatric-Drugs-and-the-Astonishing-Rise-of-Mental-Illness-in-America

Antidepressants were making people chronically ill, just like the anti-psychotics were. In 1985, a U.K. group reported that in a 2-year study comparing drug therapy to cognitive therapy, relapse was significantly higher in the pharmacotherapy group. Long-term use of antidepressants may increase the patient's biochemical vulnerability to depression and thus worsen the course of affective disorders. An analysis of 27 studies showed that whether one treats a depressed patient for 3 months of 3 years, it does not matter when one stops the drugs. The longer the drug treatment, the higher the likelihood of relapse.

BTW, the book is available in Spanish (Anatomía de una epidemia de Robert Whitaker).

People's health are going down the tubes due to stress, the ponerized system and the tendency to normalize pathology or unacceptable situations, a la Spanish style. It is terribly tragic. I witness it every single day.

Now that you feel better, perhaps it would be the time to reevaluate your true needs and what will encourage healing and growth?

The iodine protocol is not incompatible with anti-depressants. I'm assuming you were placed in the standard ones though. 5 HTP is a supplement which might also help you to wean off from drugs:

Boosting Your Happy Brain Chemistry with 5-HTP
https://www.sott.net/article/215212-Boosting-Your-Happy-Brain-Chemistry-with-5-HTP

Perhaps the dreams are more symbolic and/or an invitation to re-visit all friends (i.e. this network) and that you need to attend or give the appropriate energy to your body, mind and soul (3 people in a tandem bicycle) in order to heal and move forward?

My 2 cents!
 
Thanks for sharing Miguel Ángel, I don't have much to add but I'm sorry about your recent spate of poor health. I do hope that you can get yourself off the anti-depressants if that is what you wish. Gaby has given you some great advice and treating your body, mind and spirit as one seems like a good way to go.
How is your diet right now? Do you follow the paleo/ketogenic diets at all?
 
Gaby said:
Perhaps the dreams are more symbolic and/or an invitation to re-visit all friends (i.e. this network) and that you need to attend or give the appropriate energy to your body, mind and soul (3 people in a tandem bicycle) in order to heal and move forward?

Thank you very much for your kind reply, Gaby. I appreciate it. I like your interpretation of that dream about body, mind and soul. I think I am starting to balance them now or at least to stop having them completely unbalanced.

About re-visiting this network/forum, I am always reading & lurking, but thought I had nothing to write about. Funnily I have a lot to write about.

And about editing sott and translating I needed to take a rest as well.

I really think the anti-depressants were needed in this moment of my life + the need to stop doing/thinking things as I was. There is much more background about my situation and I will explain it all soon in the swamp section. Kind Regards.
 
lainey said:
Thanks for sharing Miguel Ángel, I don't have much to add but I'm sorry about your recent spate of poor health. I do hope that you can get yourself off the anti-depressants if that is what you wish. Gaby has given you some great advice and treating your body, mind and spirit as one seems like a good way to go.
How is your diet right now? Do you follow the paleo/ketogenic diets at all?

Thank you lainey. I was reluctant to have anti-depressants so I told my therapist when he advised them to me 3 months ago. I told him I don't like to take pills and I prefer more natural ways. But he told me this way he could work with me and my mind more easily and the treatment could go faster. I trust him and at the moment the process and myself go far better than when I met him. I am visiting as well a psychiatrist (the former is a psychologist) and she considers I am much better than before but that I should go on taking them.

I've asked her if I've changed so much due to the pills (Escitalopram 20 mg) or the therapy or the light exercise (walking and going up stairs) or having a sick leave and "forgetting" the daily problems in my job, etc., and she considers it as a bit of everything.

I realize I am more balanced now, before I tried paleo, I tried EE, cold showers, a bit of iodine + supplements, reading a few books (The vegetarian myth, Primal Body Primal Mind, Life without bread, Grain brain, You are not so smart, Gurdjieff-Ouspensky, Political Ponerology, Without conscience, Snake in suits, and many more from the recommended list, and lately 2 written by my actual psychologist about emotions: Es emocionante saber emocionarse (It's moving to know to move) and La emoción decide y la razón justifica (Emotion decides and reason justifies), apart from having read the Angry book once recommended here on the forum). But all of this just took me to have a lot of knowledge but a bit of being.

After these months I've realized that some drug abuse I did in my younger days, 20 years ago, may have affected some brain and body connections. Add to that some low self-esteem, perfectionism, an obsessive about cleaning mother and an authoritarian father that although didn't hurt me physically did it emotionally. According to Gabor Mate When The Body Says No, I had lack of Emotional Attunement, the same my parents from theirs, osit.

I would like to add that since the staged economic crisis began, 7-8 years ago, my stress began to soar because my family had some business (factories) and we've had to close some (and living in the meantime stress with workers, banks, suppliers, clients, ourselves) and we are fighting hard to avoid the closure of what is left. Funnily this year we go better but I had to explode inside, in some way.

What I want to tell with all this is that it is a long process, many factors involved and I really think it is not a matter of having or not the anti-depressants. Now I think they are necessary because I've got this:

- At lunch time, more often that I would like, I became automatically angry if I was hungry. Now it doesn't happen. I think there was some chemistry involved.
- I was becoming angry more and more often, with the stupidest things, now no more.

I am lucky to have a good family in general and good friends, above all my wife and my 3 years old son and they have been putting up with my ups and downs. And I've discovered that in some way this is what I had, ups and downs. I was living in a fear-anger-blame-sadness cycle and with this psychologist books I've learned a lot about adrenaline, noradrenaline, serotonin, dopamine and acetylcholine, as well as G.A.B.A. and glutamate.

I was having a kind of emotional block, recurrent thoughts and lately I had started to have some suicidal thoughts. Which I didn't understand because I am pretty sure that I wanted to live but when this sadness came to me I couldn't live through it without damaging myself psychologically speaking. This man has given to me some good techniques to deal with these problems and at the moment I am very satisfied. As I told my psychiatrist the last time I was with her: "now I feel I am the man I always wanted to be".

To finish I would like to add that now it seems I need to work in the production of acetylcholine because I was used to have a lot of dopamine but when serotonin went down I was directly onto sadness. He gave me some technique to calm down and I am pretty sure that very soon I will start with EE again (I make POTS almost everyday for years). And I guess that when the crystals arrive I will walk another huge step.

I'm sorry if this post looks like a bit of mumbo jumbo but it is a long time ago since I wanted to tell this about me in the swamp section of the forum, but I don't mind if it rests here. I've tried to give all this information as best as possible and I'm pretty sure you will know me now a bit better now. Thanks for reading me.
 
Miguel Ángel said:
lainey said:
Thanks for sharing Miguel Ángel, I don't have much to add but I'm sorry about your recent spate of poor health. I do hope that you can get yourself off the anti-depressants if that is what you wish. Gaby has given you some great advice and treating your body, mind and spirit as one seems like a good way to go.
How is your diet right now? Do you follow the paleo/ketogenic diets at all?


I realize I am more balanced now, before I tried paleo, I tried EE, cold showers, a bit of iodine + supplements, reading a few books (The vegetarian myth, Primal Body Primal Mind, Life without bread, Grain brain, You are not so smart, Gurdjieff-Ouspensky, Political Ponerology, Without conscience, Snake in suits, and many more from the recommended list, and lately 2 written by my actual psychologist about emotions: Es emocionante saber emocionarse (It's moving to know to move) and La emoción decide y la razón justifica (Emotion decides and reason justifies), apart from having read the Angry book once recommended here on the forum). But all of this just took me to have a lot of knowledge but a bit of being.

That's great that you have investigated so much, so are you currently on the paleo diet now?
 
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