Another example, but in this one the officer, who is standing right in front of the driver side of the vehicle, doesn't shoot and got run over and killed:
The teen driving the vehicle was charged with murder.
2020 US Election: Trump to be Re-elected, Surely? Let The Games Begin!
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The teen driving the vehicle was charged with murder.
SOTTREADER
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I think there's something to this.
I think Trump and what he supposedly represents will lead to an over correction to the right and the net effect is that the US will become overly authoritarian to non-conformists within its own borders.
I think there will be a thing about "getting in line" and if you can't, either shut up or get out of the way.
Let's see how it develops but I wouldn't be surprised if we see more incidents to this one this year and Trump making decisions without necessarily going through the usual congressional process.
This is all making for an interesting run to the mid-term elections.
I listened briefly to what Vance had to say and my take on it is he is addressing what I said earlier about the attacks on ICE and the relentless propaganda against ICE for a year. The #1 reason Trump was reelected was to remove the 20+ million illegals that where brought into the country under Biden. These people thoroughly support ICE and see them as the good guys. The protesters are seen as the bad guys. Some can't understand why they are doing this and think them crazy and unamerican. I think they are either brainwashed or paid. Whatever Trump and Vance say it will include counteracting the massive propaganda against deportations and TRUMP!
Minnesota is a fallen and captured state like Washington and California. Run by massive fraud, stealing money from the government not only to enrich themselves but to collapse the economy no doubt. The aim is to destroy the country, get rid of Constitutional freedoms and turn it into a socialist communist hell hole run by criminal dictators. A demented pathocracy.
OK, so she wasn't distracted by the cop at her window and watched him as he walked in front of her.
It seems like there’s a really high amount of emotional charge in the air around this and a lot of pressure to “take sides” here. I definitely think it’s plausible it is being magnified to harm ICE’s public relations and make the deportation of illegal aliens much harder practically.
In general I think is very dangerous and risky behavior to be involved with interfering directly with official government duties, especially ones that are by and large widely supported by the public and for which there’s been a glut of recruitment and therefore likely many more officers in the field with less locked-in training and experience. Tragic and unnecessary for sure, and thats what happens when people assent to be used as pawns on this deeply impersonal chessboard we’re on.
Also, the woman outside the car (her wife, presumably?), can be heard yelling "drive, baby, drive, drive!" just after the officer on the side told her to "get out of the f***ing car."
Right, but it is also quite clear that the cop had full view of the fact that she was steering the wheel well away from him right before he shot.
Seems to me you have two women who are playing at resistance. They seem to be clueless to the danger of the situation. They're like children who have no clue that the fantasy world they've imagined isn't how it actually is. Those are real agents with guns. How qualified those agents are is another matter. That agent should be prosecuted, however. We can't have a precedence set where everyone must comply immediately or face extrajudicial execution disguised as self defense. He wasn't in danger for his life, more like his ego.
IMO of course.
IMO of course.
He probably would have been able to see, assuming she kept her hands positioned on the top of the wheel. Video doesn't show that part, unfortunately, just her prior turn where she straightens her wheels. Mick West synced the two main videos.
Watching it again, it's clear the the car does make impact. I was wrong about that in a previous post. If you look at his right heel you can see it slide back 4 inches or so. He shoots immediately after impact.
John G
The Living Force
He may have had his attention diverted to the drive baby drive lady's side of the car. The hit may have surprised him and he had no idea how the car was positioned relative to him. He may have also stopped his walk across the path of the car due to the drive baby drive lady and the driver may have been looking too much towards the wrong side of the car too.
Yes, by instinct the first shot. 2nd and 3rd shot (out of being in danger from her car), was with another intention.
Seems to me that she straigthens and steers in the same continuous motion, so I don't see how he could have got the impression that she was aiming at him.
Also interesting that she previously said 'it's alright, I'm not mad at you', and that the recording is from his cell phone. At first I thought it was a body-cam but you can see on his reflection on the car that he is holding his phone and recording the whole thing. She wasn't having an attitude that would make him feel threatened and he didn't have the attitude of feeling threatened either.
John G
The Living Force
I think they are taught once you start shooting keep shooting to make sure you keep the upper hand. That policy could probably use some law of three amending.
Well, I wouldn’t assume fully that because sometimes for some people, our brains or minds could get a bit blinded or react in different ways if we get into panic mode or get a sudden raise of adrenaline for something happening.
On the other hand, you gotta really pay attention to tiny details, specially to what happens prior things like this occur, to determine more objectively what really happen, I mean, by footage alone I wouldn’t blame people to react negatively against the agent. But that’s the thing, like everything, the devil is in the details and besides, the way these agents react too (specially ICE) are a bit impulsive.
Precisely!
