A complaint: I do not know how to proceed

Galaxia2002

Dagobah Resident
I need advice on the following: I heard through a colleague who works as a clerk in the development of ink pigments they produce for distributing bags of food of the government. She told me that they (the government) are using a chromium-based ink for a color that should not be used in food packaging and that makes me very angry because they are putting at risk the health of millions of people for down prices a little. They can only use inks that do not bear metals (said my friend).
I don't know if you are aware but the government nationalized many food companies and now they are responsible for much of their distribution. The problem is that I have no evidence, only the testimony of my friend and all the power of the state against. I wouldn't like to Enter in a lawsuit, I think is to put me a rope around my neck. what can I can do?

Thank you!
 
Galaxia2002,

I guess I'm a little confused. Is the ink in contact with the food that's in the packaging? Wouldn't the ink be on the outside of the package and the food on the inside? I can't really picture what you're describing.

Also, is there any way you could tell us what type or brand of food this is so others can avoid it or look for alternatives? If this is a food supplier to restaurants, then maybe you could give us advise on which restaurants these are?

I don't know if you write, but maybe it would be educational and a service to others to write about your experience and compare it to what else is known about all the methods used by food processors that make their products toxic? Or maybe write about what you know about the nationalization of the food chain and how that has affected the end product. Just today SAO posted a link about lead getting in children's foods like juices and other products that have syrups. It would be interesting to know why this is among many other things about why food is so toxic.

I'm a big fan of full disclosure when it comes to methods used in food processing. I think people should even be told the contents of the cleaning products used to sterilize food processing equipment as well as all the ingredients that could ever possibly come in contact with the food.
 
I wouldn't like to Enter in a lawsuit, I think is to put me a rope around my neck. what can I can do?


Hi Galaxia2002, if what you heard is from one person, is there any way you can check it out to see if it is more than just a rumor? Gossip is sometimes used to find out who is willing to take action and who will just pass on the rumor to others. Be careful here.
 
Hi Galaxia2002, if what you heard is from one person, is there any way you can check it out to see if it is more than just a rumor? Gossip is sometimes used to find out who is willing to take action and who will just pass on the rumor to others. Be careful here.

Well I have elements to believe in her because that dye fabric is very small and she does quality control and she know and work with all dyes. But I can't ensure it 100 %. That's the problem I have also, if there is a rumor I probably never can know the truth but if it is true then I can prove that because I only have the contact of one person.

Galaxia2002,

I guess I'm a little confused. Is the ink in contact with the food that's in the packaging? Wouldn't the ink be on the outside of the package and the food on the inside? I can't really picture what you're describing.

Also, is there any way you could tell us what type or brand of food this is so others can avoid it or look for alternatives? If this is a food supplier to restaurants, then maybe you could give us advise on which restaurants these are?

I don't know if you write, but maybe it would be educational and a service to others to write about your experience and compare it to what else is known about all the methods used by food processors that make their products toxic? Or maybe write about what you know about the nationalization of the food chain and how that has affected the end product. Just today SAO posted a link about lead getting in children's foods like juices and other products that have syrups. It would be interesting to know why this is among many other things about why food is so toxic.

I'm a big fan of full disclosure when it comes to methods used in food processing. I think people should even be told the contents of the cleaning products used to sterilize food processing equipment as well as all the ingredients that could ever possibly come in contact with the food.

Hi RyanX thank you for the input. I am talking about PDVAL. They handle an average distribution of 30,000 tons of food month and sell food in popular markets at the street as alternative to private supermarkets so everybody can buy it.

The ink is in the external face of bags, boxes, powder milk packing, liquid milk, cheese, grains. It is also used in bags that contains a whole chicken, meat etc. But it doesn't matter if it is at the outside of the bag, it's equally harmful because people sometimes put the chicken, cheese, etc on the bag when they are going to cut the chicken or cut the cheese. I have seen that by myself.

You can see that chickens in that picture

http://agroca.com.ve/mundo/111_1.jpg

I'm looking for legislation of my country in that matter but I didn't find it. I found that in another countries is forbidden and that should say something about the danger of using that substances. In fact my friend tell me that the rest of the food industry uses organic dyes for his products but this brand of the government ignores that.

As chemistry I know about carcinogenicity of chromium compounds, almost nobody wants to work with that substances because are very contaminant for marine fauna for example.

Some more about chromium (From wiki)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium

Dye and pigment

The mineral crocoite (lead chromate PbCrO4) was used as a yellow pigment shortly after its discovery. After a synthesis method became available starting from the more abundant chromite, Chrome yellow was, together with cadmium yellow, one of the most used yellow pigments. The pigment does not degrade in the light and has a strong color. The signaling effect of yellow was used for school buses in the United States and for Postal Service (for example Deutsche Post) in Europe. The use of chrome yellow declined due to environmental and safety concerns and was substituted by organic pigments or other lead-free alternatives.[32] Other pigments based on chromium are, for example, the bright red pigment Chrome red, which is a basic lead chromate (PbCrO4•Pb(OH)2).[32] Chrome green is a mixture of Prussian blue and chrome yellow, while the Chrome oxide green is Chromium(III) oxide.[32]

Glass is colored green by the addition of chromium(III) oxide. This is similar to emerald, which is also colored by chromium.[33] A red color is achieved by doping chromium(III) into the crystals of corundum, which are then called ruby. Therefore, chromium is used in producing synthetic rubies.[34]

The toxicity of chromium(VI) salts is used in the preservation of wood. For example, chromated copper arsenate (CCA) is used in timber treatment to prevent wood from decay fungi, wood attacking insects, including termites, and marine borers.[35] The formulations contain chromium based on the oxide CrO3 between 35.3% and 65.5%. In the United States, 65,300 metric tons of CCA solution have been used in 1996.[35]

Biological role


Trivalent chromium (Cr(III) or Cr3+) in trace amounts influences sugar and lipid metabolism in humans, and its deficiency is suspected to cause a disease called chromium deficiency.[44] However, chromium deficiency is thought to be extremely rare in the general population and has only ever been confirmed in three people on parenteral nutrition, which is when a patient is fed a liquid diet through intravenous drips.[45] In contrast, hexavalent chromium (Cr(VI) or Cr6+) is very toxic and mutagenic when inhaled. Cr(VI) has not been established as a carcinogen when in solution, though it may cause allergic contact dermatitis (ACD).[46]

The use of chromium-containing dietary supplements is controversial due to the complex effects of the used supplements.[47] The popular dietary supplement chromium picolinate complex generates chromosome damage in hamster cells.[48] In the United States the dietary guidelines for daily chromium uptake were lowered from 50-200 µg for an adult to 35 µg (adult male) and to 25 µg (adult female).[49]


Precautions


Main article: Chromium toxicity

Water insoluble chromium(III) compounds and chromium metal are not considered a health hazard, while the toxicity and carcinogenic properties of chromium(VI) have been known for a long time.[50]

Because of the specific transport mechanisms, only limited amounts of chromium(III) enter the cells. Several in vitro studies indicated that high concentrations of chromium(III) in the cell can lead to DNA damage.[51] Acute oral toxicity ranges between 1500 and 3300 µg/kg.[52] The proposed beneficial effects of chromium(III) and the use as dietary supplements yielded some controversial results, but recent reviews suggest that moderate uptake of chromium(III) through dietary supplements poses no risk.[51]

The acute oral toxicity for chromium(VI) ranges between 50 and 150 µg/kg.[52] In the body, chromium(VI) is reduced by several mechanisms to chromium(III) already in the blood before it enters the cells. The chromium(III) is excreted from the body, whereas the chromate ion is transferred into the cell by a transport mechanism, by which also sulfate and phosphate ions enter the cell. The acute toxicity of chromium(VI) is due to its strong oxidational properties. After it reaches the blood stream, it damages the kidneys, the liver and blood cells through oxidation reactions. Hemolysis, renal and liver failure are the results of these damages. Aggressive dialysis can improve the situation.[53]

The carcinogenicity of chromate dust is known for a long time, and in 1890 the first publication described the elevated cancer risk of workers in a chromate dye company.[54][55]Three mechanisms have been proposed to describe the genotoxicity of chromium(VI). The first mechanism includes highly reactive hydroxyl radicals and other reactive radicals which are by products of the reduction of chromium(VI) to chromium(III). The second process includes the direct binding of chromium(V), produced by reduction in the cell, and chromium(IV) compounds to the DNA. The last mechanism attributed the genotoxicity to the binding to the DNA of the end product of the chromium(III) reduction.[56]

Chromium salts (chromates) are also the cause of allergic reactions in some people. Chromates are often used to manufacture, amongst other things, leather products, paints, cement, mortar and anti-corrosives. Contact with products containing chromates can lead to allergic contact dermatitis and irritant dermatitis, resulting in ulceration of the skin, sometimes referred to as "chrome ulcers". This condition is often found in workers that have been exposed to strong chromate solutions in electroplating, tanning and chrome-producing manufacturers.[57][58]
[edit] Environmental issues

As chromium compounds were used in dyes and paints and the tanning of leather, these compounds are often found in soil and groundwater at abandoned industrial sites, now needing environmental cleanup and remediation per the treatment of brownfield land. Primer paint containing hexavalent chromium is still widely used for aerospace and automobile refinishing applications.[59]

Something that I want to note is that the chromium dyes mentioned in this article are chromium (VI) so they are dangerous.
 
Galaxia2002 said:
I need advice on the following: I heard through a colleague who works as a clerk in the development of ink pigments they produce for distributing bags of food of the government. She told me that they (the government) are using a chromium-based ink for a color that should not be used in food packaging and that makes me very angry because they are putting at risk the health of millions of people for down prices a little. They can only use inks that do not bear metals (said my friend).
I don't know if you are aware but the government nationalized many food companies and now they are responsible for much of their distribution. The problem is that I have no evidence, only the testimony of my friend and all the power of the state against. I wouldn't like to Enter in a lawsuit, I think is to put me a rope around my neck. what can I can do?

Thank you!

Based on the way every thing we eat toxified, this is quite possible that they are doing it. After all 94% of the bills passed in congress are not read by the congress members. what else can you expect.

For the news to be credible, it needs some word or statement from some body who is expert in chemical toxification or some body who did the chemical or clinical analysis of toxification or a Doctor or atleast we need to be 100% sure of the toxicity.

May be look for signs or articles on the net and compile it and post it websites specialised in those subjects. websites like mercola is one example for doctor reviews. Here anyway you posted . The more data we accumulate and present, more people will pick it up easily.
 
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