A course of action

[ark]

It came also to my mind that it is like demanding from scientists; "Give me (almost) free energy." And scientists do not give you one. You get frustrated. They are "so ahead" and yet they can't give you the solution you seeking.

What to do? Perhaps you can study some subject that science has given insufficient attention so far. For instance "Pyramid's power" or the "Coral Castle mystery". Then, perhaps, you will be able to sort out some truth from many lies, and shed some new light? Our world is non-linear. A very small, seemingly insignificant, contribution from yourselves can (if not now, then, perhaps, in 100 or 1000 years), make a difference?

 

[Fifth Way]

75+ percent are opposed to the war, yet they continue to increase troop numbers.

My point exactly. None of the 75+ % have done anything to change themselves. They are (as pointed out already) watching American-Idol, probably inside their SUVs and allow their leaders to send more troops. No critical mass change here.
What have you done?
... or after reading the above posts: What will you DO?
This is not the whining-forum.

 

[Cyre2067]

My question to 'mattersnot' would be what would you imagine 'DOing' to be? Some in the midwest enjoy training with weapons and stockpiling ammo, here you'll find logical reasons why that's not such a great idea.

Further, in order to solve a problem you must understand it fully. The problem on our world is immensely complex, shrouded in thousands of years of history and rewriting that said history. A good chunk of it is psychological deviants in power, and learning about them, their weaknesses, and their modes of operation is DOing quite alot more then anyone else ever has.

Another problem is that our world is likely manipulated by higher beings, much similarly to the way we manipulate animals to 'get what we want' from them. Investigating this isssue and understanding is also crucial.

So right there are two very broad topics investigated here that you've likely never heard of, researching them increases our knowledge base and allows the information to spread as all information does. Only when we can use our minds scientifically, question, research, experiment and discover will we begin to move forward. As many before me have already stated, most are too comfortable to want to do that.

 

[mattersnot]

You seem to have a US perspective on US politics, and that may be part of problem of why you're frustrated. Maybe living in a different country for a while will help you understand how very engineered and ridiculous this two party system is.
Given the way your unions went, a 3rd party would be infiltrated very soon.

I have lived overseas for many years. I speak 3 languages fluently and view satellite TV frequently. If you are referring to living in some European nation, allow me to predict that you will have a much greater problem quite soon. I would say 10 years maximum but perhaps sooner. If you have recently lived in the US and watched
things unfold in Europe, you would see how what has happened here over the past 10-15 years is slowly taking shape there. It is almost identical. The EU serves no other purpose than to allow a very federal or centralized point of decision-making that is very far removed from its citizens. Not only has monetary policy been removed from each country's government but they are starting to introduce laws that affect the cultures of individual nations. Each country has already been reduced to the equivalent of a US state and you have the language barriers to deal with as well. Luckily a few countries opposed the EU constitution. I repeat, A FEW. 2-3 was it?
Very funny how the Europeans are being trapped/fooled into thinking that by supporting a strong EU they will be a counterbalance to the US in world affairs. Even if that were true, at what cost does this "balance" come?


Overall, I agree that the reading and studying must continue. That is a given. I have these discussions with an "intellectual" friend of mine. He insists the solution is to vote. So he voted and got yet another governor that was full of promises before the election and full of hot air after he was elected. "Yes, but I voted!" was his reply.
"Yay!" was mine.

Ark made mention of scientists providing free or cheap energy. They have done that already. They have done that many years ago. What good is all that thinking and studying if the ideas are bought and buried? Once again proving, that while ideas are fabulous, they take many many years to come to fruition yet they are killed in an instant.

They have been screaming about global warming for years now. What else needs to take place before people realize that ice is melting and that their homes will soon become part of the ocean? Al Gore (not that I like him any more than the other goofball politicians) made a documentary that outlined this perfectly. I think enough people have seen it to know that the global swimming pool is only about 15-20 years away.

Fifth Way made reference to the 75% of people that are against the war not changing anything about themselves. What else can they change? They are against the war, they voice their opinion and the voted on the MSNBC poll 87% to impeach the president. What else can people do? Write cards to the soldiers and ask them to come home on their own? What?

There are two things happening in today's society that are exceptionally dangerous:
1. Those who exercise their right to free speech many times are discredited to the point of being the village idiot. Of course there is always, wire-tapping, intimidation and the usual if one actually starts making too much sense.

2. Those in power are always one step ahead, one trick above the masses.

This process has progressed so far, that (once again) what takes years to build is trumped within days by the media and the brainwashing mechanism. Even if one of the ideas is good enough to survive the crushing powers of the establishment, it takes so long to convince people that the establishment has already started executing their plans for the next "trick."

Short term the solution appears to be electing officials from smaller parties. Longer term eliminating career politician positions is one possible answer.

Anyway you look at it though, if one of the experienced and knowledgeable people from this or any other site
started writing proactive articles it may a nice addition. Many people, myself included quite obviously, are frustrated and want a channel to join, participate in, further and grow. They just don't know how.


Thanks.

 

[mattersnot]

My question to 'mattersnot' would be what would you imagine 'DOing' to be? Some in the midwest enjoy training with weapons and stockpiling ammo, here you'll find logical reasons why that's not such a great idea.

Not exactly. That idea is preposterous. The main goal is to create an environment where good ideas can flourish.
What good has ever come of weapons? I think it is limiting the amount of power that politicians can have
is the answer. I think they should be a revolving door of citizens instead of a small group of elites that can be very easily influenced.

Further, in order to solve a problem you must understand it fully. The problem on our world is immensely complex, shrouded in thousands of years of history and rewriting that said history. A good chunk of it is psychological deviants in power, and learning about them, their weaknesses, and their modes of operation is DOing quite alot more then anyone else ever has.

Maybe but once again, how much can we study while these "deviants" trample on everything? Are you waiting or another Stalin so you can study him? Being honest and forthcoming has nothing to do with thousands of years of mystery. Perhaps after so much studying you can pinpoint the reason and find a way to prevent the next "deviant"

Another problem is that our world is likely manipulated by higher beings, much similarly to the way we manipulate animals to 'get what we want' from them. Investigating this issue and understanding is also crucial.

Very well may be. I simply have no clue.

So right there are two very broad topics investigated here that you've likely never heard of, researching them increases our knowledge base and allows the information to spread as all information does. Only when we can use our minds scientifically, question, research, experiment and discover will we begin to move forward. As many before me have already stated, most are too comfortable to want to do that.

Yes you are correct that I have not studied that at all. To put it bluntly, take a speed reading course.
Hurry up and read because if this trend continues you won't have much left to read pretty soon. And even if it is there, it won't be allowed.

 

[ark]

Ark made mention of scientists providing free or cheap energy. They have done that already. They have done that many years ago.

Please, when you are making statements on this forum, support them with verifiable data. Otherwise they are "opinions". If you do not know what is the difference between opinions and knowledge - search this forum, find the thread about opinions, find the thread about truth. Study them before any further posting.

Fifth Way made reference to the 75% of people that are against the war not changing anything about themselves. What else can they change?

Please, read and think before posting here. They can change their understanding. You will say "I don't care about my understanding, I understand enough." If so - then this forum is certainly not for you.

 

[Bholanath]

...a banquet of knowledge...

INDEED!
This thread should have been in "Tickle Me" 'cause it's exactly why I love this forum. Thanks, all!
The time calls for "sharp" weapons.

BTW: I'd recommend checking out an old Tibetan text named The Wheel of Sharp Weapons composed in 10th century ("for the unruly nomad tribes") - kind of a sledge-hammer of spiritual humility....you DON'T have to be a Buddha-believer to appreciate.
http://www.bodhicitta.net/The%20Wheel%20of%20Sharp%20Weapons.htm
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Bad dog! Don't bite the hand that feeds you. Don't you know what freedom means? - John Trudell

 

[brandon]

They have been screaming about global warming for years now. What else needs to take place before people realize that ice is melting and that their homes will soon become part of the ocean? Al Gore (not that I like him any more than the other goofball politicians) made a documentary that outlined this perfectly. I think enough people have seen it to know that the global swimming pool is only about 15-20 years away.

Hi mattersnot... the article Fire and Ice: The Day After Tommorrow, at
http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/articles/show/125454-Fire+and+Ice%3A+The+Day+After+Tomorrow
is a very interesting read about "global warming"/climate change.

Fifth Way made reference to the 75% of people that are against the war not changing anything about themselves. What else can they change? They are against the war, they voice their opinion and the voted on the MSNBC poll 87% to impeach the president. What else can people do? Write cards to the soldiers and ask them to come home on their own? What?

I think something they could do is observe their own thoughts and feelings and see how they themselves operate... and then maybe change this. Learn how to stop themselves every time they see they are acting like a predator. And this doesn't necessarily mean a physical predatory action... it's all the little things, the ways people interact with other people in order to take their energy, maybe without even realising! (not letting yourself be preyed upon in the same way is also part of this).

It may seem like such a tiny thing, but I don't think it is... I think it's a kind of practical activism. Like Fifth Way said, you can't change what anyone does but yourself... so the battle starts in yourself.

 

[ark]

Like Fifth Way said, you can't change what anyone does but yourself....

Well, we CAN. That is what manipulators do. But here we are learning about manipulation techniques to be be able to spot them when they are applied to us. It is simply a part of the learning process. To NOT manipulate, we need to know about manipulations and to know ourselves. Every knowledge can be applied for servicing others or for servicing selves. The choice is ours.

 

[domi]

If you are referring to living in some European nation, allow me to predict that you will have a much greater problem quite soon. I would say 10 years maximum but perhaps sooner.

I wasn't referring to living in a European nation per se.

*How* is the problem going to be greater there?