A Psychopath's Nightmare!

[BassMann22]

Who are these relatively unclassified people who are not psychopath?
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Some medical definitions of what is Psychopathy.

"Psychopath: The subject of a psychoneurosis. One who is of apparently sound mind in the ordinary affairs of life but who is dominated by some abnormal sexual, criminal or passional instinct."
--Stedman's Medical Dictionary (1972)

"Psychopath: A person who has an antisocial personality. sexual p., an individual whose sexual behavior is manifestly antisocial and criminal."
--Dorland's Illustrated Medical Dictionary (1974)

Psychopath: "A morally irresponsible person: one who continually comes in conflict with accepted behavior and the law."
--Blakiston's New Gould Medical Dictionary (1949)

Psychopath: "The only conclusion that seems warrantable is that some time or other and by some reputable authority the term psychopathic personality has been used to designate every conceivable type of abnormal character."
--Curran and Mallinson- (1944)

Psychopath: "A mentally ill or unstable person; especially : a person affected with antisocial personality disorder"
--International Scientific Vocabulary (1885)

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Bm22

 

[Psalehesost]

I suggest you read this - the book in question also explains a lot.

It should not strike anyone as strange how the sexual revolution's first appearance matches that of homo-sapiens arrival where it's inceptions in all likelyhood were in acted out with very little speech but a radicalized degree of instinct, violence and that there within smolders the psychopaths preexistence and beginnings.

I'll just have to say that I have a bit of a hard time following your writing there.

Could the cure to psychopathy be the quiet mind or a silent soul or a heart that finds itself at peace? Or would such attributes simply be a psychopaths nightmare?

Given that psychopathy is a genetic condition - in other words, literally part of their nature - there is no cure. The propagation of their genes propagate the condition, and those who have the nature of a psychopath are naturally inclined to behave the way they do. Also, their hearts - in their non-existence - seem very much at peace; psychopaths are not emotionally disturbed in the sense of being upset or wounded - they rather lack them - except rage, frustration (at unfulfilled desires) and desire (perhaps also some other primitive proto-emotions) - by nature.

 

[BassMann22]

The Universe is a cruel Place.

 

[Azur]

The Universe is a cruel Place.

No it isn't, if you can understand the reason for it's existence.


That understanding alone can be the differentiator between students and imitators.

 

[BassMann22]

The Universe is a cruel Place.

I think you may be surprised when you learn the significance of my statement
that a correct understanding has to do with living a good life.

No it isn't, if you can understand the reason for it's existence.

Are you saying that you understand the reason for the existence of the universe?
The problem of appearance and reality takes many forms; all of them involve
discrepancies between the way things really are and the way they appear to us.

That understanding alone can be the differentiator between students and imitators.

Azur, what do think that people usually have in mind when they inquire about the existence of anything?

 

[anart]

Hi Bassman22,

Your posts in this thread have been very difficult to understand - they actually qualify as 'word salad'. Could you please take a moment to clarify your point to reduce the noise factor?

 

[webglider]

In answer to Bassman's statement, "The universe is a cruel place" Azur responded, "No it isn't if you can understand the reason for it's existence."

I'd really like to explore this thought a little more. From what I understand, everything in the universe is evolving back to the Absolute. Thus the earth is evolving into a sun and the moon is evolving into a planet.
We, as three-brained beings, have the capacity to evolve into a higher form of human and escape General Law by working on ourselves to enough see through the illusions society constructs to keep us from waking up and clearly seeing objective reality.

Please help me out with the next part. It seems that at some point, hyperdimensional beings hijacked this planet and began to genetically modify life here to serve their own aims which, (and here I get lost), are not the aims of the Absolute? Not the true purpose of why humans were created in the first place?

We humans are an experiment of the Absolue. We, and all organic life, serve the earth by acting as transmitters of planetary influences. That is our role, and if we do not carry out our mission properly, the experiment which is all of us will be terminated and something else will take our place? Or the growing tip of creation which is the moon will not be able to evolve and thus each planet, sun, galaxy will not be able to evolve either.

Eons ago our DNA was modified so that we could not make contact with our higher centers which transmitted these planetary inflluences? Instead, we were hijacked into serving these hyperdimensional beings. Are these hyperdimensional beings part of the program to help each stage of the universe evolve, or are they analogous to a type of cancer that is invading the body of the earth?

In other words, is the universe operating the way it was created to work, or has something evil come in to create entropy?

The point of my writing all of this is to clarify Azur's statement. If the Absolute is not running the show here on earth, but some malignant beings are, what prevents the Universe from being a cruel place?

But aren't the hyperdimensional beings also part of the Absolute?

The way I explain this to myself is that just as we humans are creating absolute hell on this earth so that the natural world can not function in the way it was designed, so the hyperdimensional beings are creating absolute hell within us so that we can not function for the purpose for which we were designed. Isn't part of the plan to create this malfunction the introduction of psychopaths among us to destroy our souls, spirits, psyches by perverting our institutions?

When the earth cleanses itself - if, for example Yellowstone erupts, comets strike, other natural disasters occur would that cleanse the earth so that it could begin again so that it can evolve into a sun?

Am I making any sense? I'm really trying to put this all together, and even though I am a hopeful person, the horror of the world at this moment is totally overwhelming. Everything seems perverted, falling apart, and all that is good and noble seems so endangered that I wonder why am I here to witness it if I'm not supposed to do something.

But do what? Is all the suffering that is happening now for any purpose whatsoever? Azur, please explain to me how the reason for the existence of the Universe justifies all of this suffering?

 

[BassMann22]

Hi Bassman22, Your posts in this thread have been very difficult to understand - they actually qualify as 'word salad'. Could you please take a moment to clarify your point to reduce the noise factor?

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[T.C.]

Hi Webglider

Have you read The Wave? I'd say all the answers to your questions can be found in its various chapters.

As far as your ideas about planetary evolution and influences go, it links into your question in another thread about the law of analogy, or analogy in general.

The ray of creation represented by moon, earth, sun, solar system etc. is probably an analogy of densities. The idea of planetary influences acting through us is probably an analogy of which thought centres we are aligned with at any moment.

Hope that helps.

 

[webglider]

Hi Webglider

Have you read The Wave? I'd say all the answers to your questions can be found in its various chapters.

As far as your ideas about planetary evolution and influences go, it links into your question in another thread about the law of analogy, or analogy in general.

The ray of creation represented by moon, earth, sun, solar system etc. is probably an analogy of densities. The idea of planetary influences acting through us is probably an analogy of which thought centres we are aligned with at any moment.

Hope that helps.

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Hi T.C. I did read "The Wave", hungrily, gulping the information down for hours a day until I finished it. Still, there are questions that remain unanswered.

Your post here is very helpful:

As far as your ideas about planetary evolution and influences go, it links into your question in another thread about the law of analogy, or analogy in general.

The ray of creation represented by moon, earth, sun, solar system etc. is probably an analogy of densities. The idea of planetary influences acting through us is probably an analogy of which thought centres we are aligned with at any moment.

It clarifies the need for purifying oneself of negative emotions: of remaining silent rather than giving vent to expressions of anger, frustration, recrimination, revenge, etc. It also clarifies the importance of not identifying with the purely physical vibrations of the earth which exist in a lower density than the higher vibrational energies of the sun.

Helpful as this is, however, it does not answer the question that arose in response to Azur's comment

Azur, please explain to me how the reason for the existence of the Universe justifies all of this suffering?

From what I understand, only a very few people have the ability to escape the General Law. These are people who are fortunate enough to live in a time and place where it is possible to have a school. For all the rest, as I understand it, the chances are practically nill. Their lives are fraught with disease, war, poverty, fear - emotions that are natural responses to the conditions in which they find themselves.

Some people, may, even under those circumstances, find their way to the Work, but the odds are against them which brings me back to concept of the injustice of suffering.

I do believe that intentional suffering which serves an AIM is extremely important. But suffering such as that of innocent civilians whose lives are destroyed in times of war, are purely sacrifices to feed those beings that have hijacked this planet, (as I understand it). I think that a section of The Wave addresses this issue to some extent in by saying that 4th Density STS is part of creation as well, as entropy is itself a part of it.

But what exactly is the role of 4th Density STS? Can the moon only evolve by absorbing negativity? This seems antithetical to that which feeds the earth. For the moon to evolve, must the earth be sacrificed? Is the 360,000 year cycle a way for it to clear itself of all this negativity and begin once again. But if so, what happens to the moon?

But more than that, and this is my real question, if suffering is so integral to evolution, than what is the purpose of the Signs Page which alerts us to the ponorization of our world? Isn't it because this ponorization does not serve any good purpose - that it leads to entropy thus precluding any possibility of further growth?

It seems that what one must desire is growth, to keep the tip of the branch of creation alive. So here is my question again: In the larger scheme of things, what purpose do these STS beings serve - these hyperdimensional beings who flaunt who are disrupting the natural order, (as I still see it), and these psychopaths which are destroying the earth and everything on it?

 

[Oxajil]

Helpful as this is, however, it does not answer the question that arose in response to Azur's comment

Azur, please explain to me how the reason for the existence of the Universe justifies all of this suffering?

Why is ''justify'' used in the question and what do you mean with that word? And what is ''suffering''? Why should I not ask:
"how the reason for the existence of the Universe justifies all of this happiness?" What I mean is; when we think too much in 3d thinking, we tend to ask these questions, even if we might already have some possibilities of answers..
If you'd ask the same question to the C's, what would they say?

Their lives are fraught with disease, war, poverty, fear - emotions that are natural responses to the conditions in which they find themselves.

Perhaps some chose to live the way they do, to perhaps learn from it?

But what exactly is the role of 4th Density STS? Can the moon only evolve by absorbing negativity? This seems antithetical to that which feeds the earth. For the moon to evolve, must the earth be sacrificed? Is the 360,000 year cycle a way for it to clear itself of all this negativity and begin once again. But if so, what happens to the moon?

I don't know what you mean with ''evolve'' here. Laura asked a question to the C's that I think is related to this:

Q: (L) Georges Gurdjieff proposed the idea that the earth is, in a sense, food for the moon. What he meant was, what he had learned from these ancient teachers was that earth was a food source for some level of being, and that possibly these beings had encampments or bases on the moon, but that earth was eventually to become a star and that then the moon would become an inhabited planet as the earth was, and so on... Is this a fairly...
A: Close.

 

[T.C.]

I did read "The Wave", hungrily, gulping the information down for hours a day until I finished it. Still, there are questions that remain unanswered.

The questions remain unanswered because you hungrily gulped down the information for hours a day until you finished it.

I may be wrong, but IMO, Laura gave detailed explanations of everything you're asking about.

Also, don't take the evolution of the moon, earth etc. too literally. The info was given in the most appropriate way for the time. Now, we live in a different time, and have access to the info in explanations more appropriate to our level of awareness.

 

[webglider]

Also, don't take the evolution of the moon, earth etc. too literally. The info was given in the most appropriate way for the time. Now, we live in a different time, and have access to the info in explanations more appropriate to our level of awareness.

This helps. Much of my difficulty arises frustrating attempts to correlate the metaphor of evolution of the moon, earth, etc. to what seems to be the objective reality of the hyperdimensiional beings in our midst.

I still don't understand how the universe allows them to get away with their transgressions; or perhaps it isn't.

Using an analogy - perhaps what is happening to humans who have adopted practices that are disrupting the proper functioning of the natural world that is putting human survival at risk may be analogous to what may eventually happen to the 4D STS beings who are disrupting the proper functioning of the human world. They may succeed for a while, but if we're the source of their food, and everything breaks down because we can not do what we were designed to do in the larger frame of things, then they too may fall with us - eventually.

Just some thoughts. I'll go back and read The Wave again, more slowly this time.

 

[BassMann22]

I still don't understand how the universe allows them to get away with their transgressions; or perhaps it isn't.

No one really understands exactly and if they say that they do, they know nothing! I understand your frustrations and anger and you have every right. It is a phase those on the path must experience and I can promise you that it will die off. Of course there will appear other challenges and you will have to also get through them. One thing to keep in mind and I don't mean this in any funny way...We are Owned, we are property and that being one both sides of the coin.

Bm22

 

[webglider]

We are Owned, we are property and that being one both sides of the coin.

I have been aware of this for some time, but up until now, I have not felt it quite so strongly.
The realilzation is fully hitting me, and I'm trying to understand it. Understanding ususally helps me deal with most situations, but it can not mitagate the horror of this particular one.

The information on The Signs Pages is almost too much to bear. There are so many changes and shocks that are happening so quickly and relentlessly, that I'm trying to find my bearings by seeing how everything fits together. In other words, I'm trying to consolidate all of the information I have been gathering into a coherent system which will provide me with a map by which to navigate through what is to come.