A question regarding Secret History of the World
- Thread starter tridean
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Dingo said:
Okay thanks. They could be legitimate copies since at one stage, QFG was selling them as an e-book version. That was stopped for quite sometime now once pirated copies started to appear.
tridean
Jedi Master
Oh, ok that makes sense. I have just purchased the physical book, I'm wondering if now that I have purchased this, I can get the pdf version in full?....here is my receipt:
Quantum Future Group Books
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Order Number: 4384
Detailed Invoice: http://www.qfgpublishing.com/account_history_info.php?order_id=4384
Date Ordered: Thursday 20 May, 2010
Products
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1 x The Secret History of the World () = 27.95EUR = $34.94 *
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Sub-Total: 27.95EUR = $34.94 *
Zone Rates (Shipping to AU : 4.08 lb(s)): 7.50EUR = $9.38 *
Total: 35.45EUR = $44.31 *
Delivery Address
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Dean Whittingham
Quantum Future Group Books
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Order Number: 4384
Detailed Invoice: http://www.qfgpublishing.com/account_history_info.php?order_id=4384
Date Ordered: Thursday 20 May, 2010
Products
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1 x The Secret History of the World () = 27.95EUR = $34.94 *
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Sub-Total: 27.95EUR = $34.94 *
Zone Rates (Shipping to AU : 4.08 lb(s)): 7.50EUR = $9.38 *
Total: 35.45EUR = $44.31 *
Delivery Address
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Dean Whittingham
lord jim
The Force is Strong With This One
hey all,
i can definitely attest that "a secret history" is very interesting. i'm still a new comer to all the c's stuff, and i got the book to read laura's thoughts on early christianity (something i know a little about) as sort of a check for the validity of the rest of her and the c's work. and there were some pretty heavy revelations in there...she pretty adeptly connected a lot of dots that have been floating around in my head for years. it's a good feeling to feel like things are gelling now.
one particular massive puzzle piece is the nature of the egyptian civilization, an outgrowth of the atlantean civilization with it's theological overlays and the manner in which it fundamentally altered christianity (the dead shall rise again and all that), as well as it's strict divide between the "haves" and "have-nots". really good food for thought.
and don't get me started on mouravieff and his ideas about gnosis. amazing!
the real value of this book (as far as i can tell) is parsing through data, ideas, evidence, and speculation. what is the best way to collate all of history to extract out real, objective truth. there were so many times when i was like, "laura! for the love of god, just tell me what you think, and i'll read all of these excerpts understanding the point you're trying to make!". i understand the frustration of asking the c's to spell something out, explicitly...and get a response "learning is fun, do it yourself." and that's the point. we need to be able to develop discretion and discernment ourselves. and that's what laura is doing, leading us with a carrot through the information, priming our pumps for us to be able to do it for ourselves...in the future. to see the unseen.
really good stuff.
i can definitely attest that "a secret history" is very interesting. i'm still a new comer to all the c's stuff, and i got the book to read laura's thoughts on early christianity (something i know a little about) as sort of a check for the validity of the rest of her and the c's work. and there were some pretty heavy revelations in there...she pretty adeptly connected a lot of dots that have been floating around in my head for years. it's a good feeling to feel like things are gelling now.
one particular massive puzzle piece is the nature of the egyptian civilization, an outgrowth of the atlantean civilization with it's theological overlays and the manner in which it fundamentally altered christianity (the dead shall rise again and all that), as well as it's strict divide between the "haves" and "have-nots". really good food for thought.
and don't get me started on mouravieff and his ideas about gnosis. amazing!
the real value of this book (as far as i can tell) is parsing through data, ideas, evidence, and speculation. what is the best way to collate all of history to extract out real, objective truth. there were so many times when i was like, "laura! for the love of god, just tell me what you think, and i'll read all of these excerpts understanding the point you're trying to make!". i understand the frustration of asking the c's to spell something out, explicitly...and get a response "learning is fun, do it yourself." and that's the point. we need to be able to develop discretion and discernment ourselves. and that's what laura is doing, leading us with a carrot through the information, priming our pumps for us to be able to do it for ourselves...in the future. to see the unseen.
really good stuff.
lord jim said:
That made me chuckle. Yeah, now you know how it feels.
Really, though, I didn't feel that it was yet time to make any definitive statements about anything. All the data is not in. But I did want to gather all the clues that seemed to me to be significant into one place in case I died. That way, a clever person could continue on their own.
lord jim
The Force is Strong With This One
haha, but you do make some pretty definitive statements, relatively speaking. i'm thinking of the other "secret history of the world", which i read right before i starting reading your's. jonathan black/mark booth's book is full of sound and fury signifying nothing...or at least, not a whole lot. i was getting ready to have a feast on all of his supposed "insider knowledge" but was pretty disappointed with all the half-baked non-sense and unsubstantiated conjecture. whether or not it was the conscious objective of the book to turn me off of other books called "a secret history", it almost did just that. i hesitated buying yours.
that said, it's certainly possible to make non-definitive, definitive statements...if that make sense. this is something that has to be done constantly in scientific writing...such and such seems to be the case when looking at this evidence. this or that may play a major role in what-have-you. if someone is speculating, i like to know when they're speculating...and to what degree their speculation deviates from the facts. that's actually what i really like about richard dolan's work; he waves his speculation flag in plain sight before engaging in guesswork. as opposed to "true love was invented by the troubadours." say what?!
anyhow, i'll stop complaining now ;)
i'm just happy to have a forum to get some critics before i waste hours and dollars on castles in the sky.
that said, it's certainly possible to make non-definitive, definitive statements...if that make sense. this is something that has to be done constantly in scientific writing...such and such seems to be the case when looking at this evidence. this or that may play a major role in what-have-you. if someone is speculating, i like to know when they're speculating...and to what degree their speculation deviates from the facts. that's actually what i really like about richard dolan's work; he waves his speculation flag in plain sight before engaging in guesswork. as opposed to "true love was invented by the troubadours." say what?!
anyhow, i'll stop complaining now ;)
i'm just happy to have a forum to get some critics before i waste hours and dollars on castles in the sky.
lord jim
The Force is Strong With This One
sure, i'd love to! let's do this: i need to listen to it again (i bought the audio version, so i can listen to it while i'm at work). i finished it about three months ago, and like i said, it's a lot of psycho babble, so i started checking out toward the middle. but once i can give it another whirl tomorrow, i'll pay better attention to try to extract the essence. then i'll post again with a succinct summary.
it's been a while since i've done a book report :P
it's been a while since i've done a book report :P
lord jim said:
I will appreciate it. My own research reading list is so enormous, and I'm basically pulling on threads and focusing on where they take me, that I would probably get all messed up if I diverted right now.
BUT, I am curious to find out what "they" propose as alternative ideas since it is kind of obvious that this other SH was put out as a red herring.
GRiM
The Living Force
I did a quick search for the book, its still out there. At the moment there is (adding the seeders (ie. full download who still share it via bittorrent)) somewhere around 450 seeders, that does not indicate the total downloads in anyway but it can only be higher.
fullsize: http://imgur.com/WLJDp.png
fullsize: http://imgur.com/WLJDp.png
