A Saudi 'Night of the Long Knives'? Prince Salman's crackdown

Joe said:
This is all they have left? Transparent propaganda to try and create the 'reality' that Lebanon is a rogue state run by Hezbollah. They're trying scare up some international sanctions or something similar. Pretty pathetic.

All this saber rattling reminds me of the US, which, lately, multiplied threatening statements towards this or that state without following them with concrete actions. Maybe because the US is less and less in position to implement its destructive ambitions. Maybe Saudi Arabia and Israel are in a similar position: the Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and Lebanon (not to mention Russia) are not a bunch of rock-throwing teenagers.

Keeping in mind Israel defeat against the Hezbollah in 2005-2006, I don't see how, today, Israel could win against those trained and well-equipped armies. From this perspective, the best they can hope for are, indeed, international sanctions but this is also a dangerous game, for example the recent statements and actions made by Trump against Iran is probably one of the reasons for the 30 billion dollars energy deal between Russia and Iran.
 
Re: A Saudi 'Night of the Long Knives'? Prince Salman's crackdown signals significan

Joe said:
Turgon said:
There was some discussion about this in today's Behind the Headlines: U.S. Republic Goes Bananas: Rats Fleeing the Sinking Ship as U.S. Democracy Unravels and in the chat room as well. That this recent crackdown in Saudi Arabia has to do with the changing of the guard in the Middle East. With Russia taking it's rightful place as a major player in the region, helping Syria fend off the Saudi/US/Israeli-backed terrorists, those in Saudi Arabia are realizing they better change their ways because the US is on a decline.

And the Israelis are, of course, fit to be tied (as the saying goes). The removal of Hariri points directly to a desperate Israeli move (with the help of the Saudis). The Israelis have, of course, been meddling in Lebanon for decades, causing great harm in the process. It was the Mossad that murdered Hariri's father in 2005 (the apple fell far from the tree there) and then a year later the Israelis began, and lost, a war against Hezbollah.

Today Hezbollah forces are likely much stronger than in 2006, fresh from military experience fighting Western (and Israeli)-backed jihadis in Syria. Iranian and Syrian influence in Lebanon is growing stronger by the day, and with Russia in the 'hood' now to stay, it's not looking good for little 'ol Israel. But the Israelis should not be underestimated, they have nukes after all, and allegedly a 'samson option'.

The Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) were seen digging a new fortified ditch, Wednesday, near the Lebanese border-town of ‘Udayseh in the Nabatiyeh Governorate.

Israeli Army fortifies positions near Lebanese border town, violates UN agreement 09/11/2017
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/israeli-army-fortifies-positions-near-lebanese-border-town-violates-un-agreement/

Lebanese Army and UNIFIL soldiers watched as Israeli bulldozers began digging the ditch near ‘Udayseh, prompting the Lebanese government to issue a complaint over the IDF’s violation of the blue line.

While digging the ditch, Israeli warplanes repeatedly crossed through Lebanon’s airspace, conducting mock raids over several towns in the Nabatiyeh Governorate.

Israel has been repeatedly warned about illegally entering Lebanese airspace and territorial waters; however, Tel Aviv continues to violate Lebanon’s sovereignty without any consequences from the international community.


The so-called leader of the Lebanese Forces, Samir Geagea, stated on Wednesday that he has ruled out any military strike against Hezbollah, adding that the aforementioned group is “our problem.”

Geagea ‘rules out’ military strike against Hezbollah 09/11/2017
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/geagea-rules-military-strike-hezbollah/

“I have not sensed any indications of a military strike against Hezbollah, and in the end Hezbollah is our problem as Lebanese, seeing as we cannot continue having two states,” Geagea told MTV, as quoted by Naharnet.

“PM Hariri has revolted against the abnormal situation in the country,” Geagea added.

“We are undoubtedly in a crisis, but it is similar to the rest of the crises that we went through, and like we managed to overcome the previous crises, we will overcome this crisis,” he added.

The self-proclaimed doctor is a notorious critic of Hezbollah and is well-known for blaming most of Lebanon’s problems on the latter.


Two high ranking Islamic State (ISIS) commanders were arrested by the Lebanese Army near the Syrian-Lebanese border, Wednesday, a military communique read.

Two high ranking ISIS commanders arrested near Syrian-Lebanese border 09/11/2017
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/two-high-ranking-isis-commanders-arrested-near-syrian-lebanese-border/

According to the communique, the two ISIS emirs, Ibrahim Ahmad Zarzour (Lebanese) and ‘Uday Hussein Khatib (Syrian), were arrested by the Lebanese Army inside the city of ‘Arsal on Wednesday.

The communiqué added that the two men had participated in battles against the Lebanese Army in Arsal, and had planned future terrorist attacks against the state.

The apprehended Syrian was involved in the explosion of al-Qalamoun Scholars’ Committee headquarters in Arsal and the attack on an army patrol that was heading to inspect the blast, the National News Agency (NNA) of Lebanon stated.


Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was invited to Riyadh to discuss plans to form a grand regional alliance including both Israel and Palestine to confront Iran, reported Middle East Eye.

Abbas and Saudi Crown Prince discuss anti-Iran alliance November 9, 2017
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171109-abbas-and-saudi-crown-prince-discuss-anti-iran-alliance/

Palestinian officials and western diplomats speaking on condition of anonymity said: “Abbas had been summoned to discuss renewed American efforts to secure a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinian Authority which the Crown Prince sees as a crucial step towards his goal of enabling Saudi Arabia and Israel to work together openly against Iran.”

According to one western diplomat, “Saudi Arabia cannot work openly with Israel in the face of Iran, before solving the Palestinian issue, and having the Palestinians themselves involved directly in such an axis.”

Palestinian officials said that Abbas had been assured by both King Salman and Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman that “Arab states would not establish formal diplomatic relations with Israel until Palestinian statehood was recognized and a regional peace deal had been agreed”.

“President Abbas raised his concerns of the Israeli intention to implement the Arab Peace Initiative from Z to A, not from A to Z, meaning that Israel is interested in having a relationship with the Arab countries before having a Palestinian statehood,” one said.

He continued: “The King and the Crown Prince assured President Abbas that will not happen. The Saudis are keen to see a regional peace deal that solves the Palestinian cause first.”


An Israeli official told AFP on Friday that Saudi Crown Prince Emir Mohammed bin Salman secretly visited Tel Aviv in September.

Israeli official confirms: Bin Salman visited Tel Aviv last month October 21, 2017
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171021-israeli-official-confirms-bin-salman-visited-tel-aviv-last-month/

The official, who requested that his identity remains anonymous, refused to reveal the nature of bin Salman’s meetings in Tel Aviv, the people he met, as well as the results of his discussions with the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Israeli official’s statement confirmed the accuracy of what the official Hebrew radio broadcast earlier, when it revealed that “an emir from the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly on 7 September and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of pushing forward regional peace.”

During that time, journalist Ariel Kahana, who works for the nationalist and right-wing weekly Makor Rishon, tweeted: “Bin Salman visited Israel with an official delegation and met with officials.”

A few days later, the famous Saudi blogger Mujtahidd wrote: “The journalist Noga Tarnopolsky, a specialist in Israeli affairs who possesses international credibility, has confirmed Mohammed bin Salman’s visit to Israel.”

Immediately after, the hashtag #Bin_Salman_Visited_Israel topped the most circulated Twitter hashtags in a number of countries, including Saudi Arabia and Qatar. (Article continues.)


Timeline: Crisis in Saudi
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171109-timeline-crisis-in-saudi/

Video: The Saudi Purge: The Middle East Is on the Verge of A New War (Video - 4:28 min.)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-the-saudi-purge-the-middle-east-is-on-the-verge-of-a-new-war/5617345
 
In the house of Saudi, one wonders what exactly Jarad Kushner was doing, and he would not be doing without Israels acknowledgements. Jared was there three times and it seems each was with MBS. Prior, back in May, there was a Saudi delegation in Washington working on the big 100 billion arms sale. And, at least during his last trip (the MSN seems to focus on a Palestine/Israel peace deal) Jared was with Dina Powell (deputy National Security Advisor) and Jason Greenblatt. No mention below of where Dina Powell was directed.

Foreign Policy points out that; _http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/07/jared-kushner-mohammed-bin-salman-and-benjamin-netanyahu-are-up-to-something/

snip said:
Mohammed bin Salman may or may not have recently visited Tel Aviv, where Israel’s Defense Ministry is located. But even if he never set foot in the HaKirya complex, there is little doubt that he has authorized ever closer relations with the Israelis, who view the Iranian threat exactly as he does. And the crown prince is not the only one Jared Kushner has been speaking to: Trump has given his son-in-law overall leadership on the peace process between Israel and the Arabs, and he is reportedly a welcome guest in Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office.

Given Kushner’s role, did Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman signal his plans when Kushner last met with him — and did Kushner then inform his father-in-law? And if so, how far will Washington, or more precisely, the White House, go to back up the Saudis if their confrontation with Iran gets hot? Or will Israel serve as Trump’s proxy? With this president, this crown prince, and the current prime minister of Israel, anything is possible.

It is a given that Jared is tight with Bibi.

Haaretz mentioned; _https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/1.819768

The official added that Greenblatt also recently met with officials from Jordan, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, but that "while these regional talks will play an important role, the President reaffirms that peace between Israelis and Palestinians can only be negotiated directly between the two parties," adding that "the United States will continue working closely with the parties to make progress toward that goal."

From the Spectator; _https://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/11/saudi-arabia-has-united-with-israel-against-iran-and-a-desert-storm-is-brewing/

Whose side will the West be on? Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s adviser and son-in-law, recently left Riyadh after his third visit this year, staying up talking with the Crown Prince until the small hours of the morning at a ranch in the desert. Robert W. Jordan, a former American ambassador, says that the recent purges were conducted after ‘what people would call a green light from President Trump’. And all this while Israel was conducting its biggest-ever aerial military drill, just a month after its largest-ever land military drill — both simulating war with Hezbollah.

Pierre said:
Joe said:
This is all they have left? Transparent propaganda to try and create the 'reality' that Lebanon is a rogue state run by Hezbollah. They're trying scare up some international sanctions or something similar. Pretty pathetic.

All this saber rattling reminds me of the US, which, lately, multiplied threatening statements towards this or that state without following them with concrete actions. Maybe because the US is less and less in position to implement its destructive ambitions. Maybe Saudi Arabia and Israel are in a similar position: the Hezbollah, Iran, Syria and Lebanon (not to mention Russia) are not a bunch of rock-throwing teenagers.

Keeping in mind Israel defeat against the Hezbollah in 2005-2006, I don't see how, today, Israel could win against those trained and well-equipped armies. From this perspective, the best they can hope for are, indeed, international sanctions but this is also a dangerous game, for example the recent statements and actions made by Trump against Iran is probably one of the reasons for the 30 billion dollars energy deal between Russia and Iran.

Fast looking around the web, the echo chamber has zeroed in on what seems like one, a deflection (Palestine peace) and the other Hezbollah/Iran narrative. So, was also wondering just how many IS/ISIS Daesh proxies exited Syria in the last six months/year and where they would be? Jordan looks like a possibility for their reemergence if Lebanon is indeed a focus (I know they are also in Iraq and elsewhere).

It seems like this old saber thing with Iran, unless Pakistan and Afghanistan factor in some sort of combined action is just silly, yet the deep state and politicians in Israel pulling strings may have crazy plans yet to see. Whatever the case, there will likely be some big miscalculation if they push a green light.

In the end of Thierry Meyssan analysis, he states;

Then President Vladimir Putin went to Teheran on 1 November. He assured his Iranian counterpart, Cheikh Hassan Rohani, that the declarations of his US opposite number contesting the 5+1 agreements concerning nuclear energy would not be followed through. He reminded Guide Ali Khameneï of the Israëli demand that there be no Revolutionary Guards and no Hezbollah in Southern Syria. Above all, he agreed with the Ayatollah about a plan for the future Syria based on the idea that soon Saudi Arabia would cease to play a destructive role.

Finally, the Greater Middle East has everything to gain by Saudi Arabia evolving from obscurantist dictatorship to enlightened despotism. In any case, the change in methods, leaders and objectives in Riyadh opens many opportunities. [Eb]ach of the regional actors will attempt to adapt even faster in order to promote their interests before the situation freezes once again[/b].

A new article on Meyssan's site (back to discussing Hariri) sates that Israel orchestrating Hariri’s resignation to provoke a war http://www.voltairenet.org/article198697.html

[...]In fact, the international press is treating Saad Hariri’s resignation as a matter quite separate from the Palace coup which followed at Riyadh. However, all elements revealed since then lead us to think that this resignation was only an element of the Palace coup and point to Hassan Nasrallah being right.

Israel is not envisaging attacking Hezbollah again since it is well aware of the military and diplomatic risks of such an operation. But Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is pushing Saudi Arabia to attack the Lebanese resistance in its place and is preparing international public opinion for this.

I guess will see...
 
Re: A Saudi 'Night of the Long Knives'? Prince Salman's crackdown signals significan

angelburst29 said:
Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was invited to Riyadh to discuss plans to form a grand regional alliance including both Israel and Palestine to confront Iran, reported Middle East Eye.

Abbas and Saudi Crown Prince discuss anti-Iran alliance November 9, 2017
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171109-abbas-and-saudi-crown-prince-discuss-anti-iran-alliance/

Palestinian officials and western diplomats speaking on condition of anonymity said: “Abbas had been summoned to discuss renewed American efforts to secure a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinian Authority which the Crown Prince sees as a crucial step towards his goal of enabling Saudi Arabia and Israel to work together openly against Iran.”


An Israeli official told AFP on Friday that Saudi Crown Prince Emir Mohammed bin Salman secretly visited Tel Aviv in September.

Israeli official confirms: Bin Salman visited Tel Aviv last month October 21, 2017
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171021-israeli-official-confirms-bin-salman-visited-tel-aviv-last-month/

The official, who requested that his identity remains anonymous, refused to reveal the nature of bin Salman’s meetings in Tel Aviv, the people he met, as well as the results of his discussions with the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

The Israeli official’s statement confirmed the accuracy of what the official Hebrew radio broadcast earlier, when it revealed that “an emir from the Saudi royal court visited the country secretly on 7 September and discussed with senior Israeli officials the idea of pushing forward regional peace.”


I don't know if this has any bearing on the Saudi-Israel connection and a possible confrontation with Lebanon, Hezbollah and Iran but it was stated that MBS secretly visited Israel on September 7th and what possible connection (if any) Britain's secretary of state for international development, Priti Patel secret meetings (including with Netanyahu) might play in this war scenario? "In total Patel revealed she had 12 meetings in Israel." Patel has been steadily reducing U.K. financial aid to the Palestinian Authority. It's claimed - that in a meeting with Netanyahu, Patel discussed funneling UK tax-payers' money to the Israeli army in the Golan Heights. Now that Patel has been sacked, Netanyahu might not get the financial backing, he secretly tried to obtain from the U.K.? Then the Saudi Crown Prince summoned Palestinian President Abbas to get him to form an alliance with Israel against Iran which Abbas is not in favor of.



Priti Patel, Britain's secretary of state for international development, has resigned from her official government duties following the discovery that she'd held a series of secret meetings with Israeli officials.

UK Cabinet Member Forced to Resign Over Secret Meetings With Israeli Officials
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201711081058933322-priti-patel-forced-resign-secret-meeting-israeli-officials/

The British Secretary of State for International Development has been accused of breaking a ministerial code after holding undisclosed meetings with the leader of one of Israel's main political parties.


Senior UK Gov't Minister Accused of Ignoring Strict Code to Hold Israel Meetings
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201711031058786398-uk-israel-priti-patel/

Mr. Lapid, a former finance minister in Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition government, tweeted a picture of the meeting on Thursday, August 24:


Britain's international development secretary Priti Patel looks to be facing the sack from Theresa May's cabinet after it emerged she failed to disclose information about two further meetings with Israeli officials.

Back to Face the Axe? UK Gov't Minister Patel Ordered Home as Israel Row Deepens
https://sputniknews.com/europe/201711081058913285-uk-priti-patel-job-israel/

Having already reprimanded Patel on Monday, November 6, over a series of unauthorized meetings with Israeli figures, including prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu in August, while on a family holiday, the British premier has now ordered her back from an official trip to Africa for another showdown at Downing Street — at which she is expected to lose her job.

During this meeting, Patel appears to have omitted to tell May that she discussed funneling UK tax-payers' money to the Israeli army to treat wounded Syrian refugees in the Golan Heights region.

Now it has emerged that she also conducted two further meetings the following month without government officials being present, although Lord Polak, honorary president of the Conservative Friends of Israel did attend.

It is unclear whether the British prime minister has spoken to Patel since this further revelation.

Israeli Public Security Minister Meeting

She met Israeli public security minister Gilad Erdan in Westminster on Thursday, September 7, who later tweeted about their meeting including posting a photograph of them.

​Sources suggest that this meeting had been declined on her behalf by her department officials, but unbeknownst to them, it was then fixed up by her constituency office. None of her officials attended it.

Israeli Foreign Ministry Official Meeting

Patel, a senior UK government minister then later met with Israeli foreign ministry official Yuval Rotem in New York on Monday, September 18. As details of her earlier series of meetings in August involving Israeli officials became known, Patel initially attempted to cover up them up, insisting that foreign secretary Boris Johnson knew of the trip in advance — but she was later forced to detract this.

UK minister Priti Patel secretly urged aid for al-Qaida via Israel 8 November 2017
https://www.electronicintifada.net/blogs/asa-winstanley/uk-minister-priti-patel-secretly-urged-aid-al-qaida-israel

Anticorruption leaks name UK MP Priti Patel in funding Israel army with UK ‘aid’ money 5 November, 2017
http://www.alsahawat.com/2017/11/07/anticorruption-leaks-name-uk-mp-priti-patel-in-funding-israel-army-with-uk-aid-money/
 
The Middle East soap opera is going on. After Saudi Gulf affairs minister Thamer al-Sabhan accused Lebanon to declare war against Saudi Arabia, it's now Hezbollah leader Nasrallah who accuses Saudi Arabia to have declared war against Lebanon.

Well, accusing another country of declaring war against one's own country is not a declaration of war, it's just an accusation.

So, it seems that Saudi Arabia and the Hezbollah have started not a war but a muscle flexing contest.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-10/hezbollah-leader-says-saudi-arabia-has-declared-war-lebanon

If three days ago the middle east was on the "verge of a catastrophe", then moments ago it took one big step closer to the edge.

Recall that on Tuesday we reported that Saudi Arabia had again cast itself as the victim of external Shia plotting, after its internal weekend of chaos which included a missile attack from Yemen, the deaths of two princes and other high officials within a mere 24 hours, and an aggressive crackdown against dissent in the royal family which saw close to a dozen princes placed under house arrest. And while Saudi Arabia has long blamed Iran for sowing unrest in the region, Tuesday's declaration by Saudi Gulf affairs minister Thamer al-Sabhan that Lebanon has "declared war" against the kingdom was an historic first. But perhaps the biggest problem is that international media is currently uncritically spreading the statement, whereas what such a bizarre claim actually warrants is laughter. Thankfully, Nassim Nicholas Taleb sums it up nicely with a basic geography lesson: "Either the media is stupid, or Saudi rulers are stupid, or both. Lebanon did not formally declare war and there is no common border."

Well, fast forward three days when Lebanon has still not declared war on Saudi Arabia, however it has turned the table on Riyadh, when moments ago Hassan Nasrallah, leader of Hezbollah, said that "Saudi Arabia has declared war on Lebanon and Hezbollah." In a televized address to mark Hezbollah’s so-called Martyr Day, Nasrallah warned Israel against what he called "miscalculations" and said Saudis are angry because "their dreams did not come true in Syria, Lebanon."

The Hezbollah leader also said he sees an Israeli war with Lebanon as unlikely, and warns Israel against any attempt to exploit the political chaos in Lebanon, claiming "today we are stronger." Nasrallah also said that Yemenis have capacity to produce missiles, denying Saudi claims that Hezbollah fired a missile at Riyadh.

Claiming that the failed Saudi faceoff with Qatar, and its intervention in Bahrain made its government bankrupt, he also warned that Saudi Arabia - which claims to be helping Yemenis, but has only killed its people, spread disease, hunger - "will fail in Lebanon as it did in all other arenas in the region."

The Hezbollah leader also said former Lebanon premier Saad Hariri, who unexpectedly resigned over the weekend, is being kept under house arrest in Saudi Arabia after resigning as Lebanese Prime Minister from its capital on Saturday, and must be allowed to return home.

And now that both sides have mutually accused each other of having declared war on each other, the question is which country will break the stalemate and move from words to actions.
 
Saudi "Deep State" Prince Bandar Among Those Arrested In Purge: Report

Sometimes it is the names involved in the purge that can be interesting. Prince Bandar, also referred to as 'Bander Bush being one of those names maybe is one of those.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-10/saudi-deep-state-prince-bandar-bin-sultan-among-those-arrested-purge-report

Quote from article:

According to a new report by Middle East Eye, Prince Bandar bin Sultan - Saudi Arabia's most famous arms dealer, longtime former ambassador to the US, and recent head of Saudi intelligence - was among those detained as part of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman's (MBS) so-called "corruption purge" that started with the initial arrests of up to a dozen princes and other top officials last weekend.

If confirmed, the arrest and detention of Bandar would constitute the most significant and high profile figure caught up in the purge - even above that of high profile billionaire investor Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal - given Bandar's closeness to multiple US administrations and involvement in events ranging from Reagan's Nicaraguan Contra program (including direct involvement in the Iran-Contra scandal), to making the case for the Iraq War as a trusted friend of Bush and Cheney, to directing US-Saudi covert operations overseeing the arming of jihadists in Syria.

Middle East Eye issued the report based on multiple contacts "inside the royal court" and indicates further that the scale of MBS' aggressive crackdown is much larger than previously reported, and even involves the torture of "senior figures" among those detained:

Some senior figures detained in last Saturday's purge in Saudi Arabia were beaten and tortured so badly during their arrest or subsequent interrogations that they required hospital treatment, Middle East Eye can reveal. People inside the royal court also told MEE that the scale of the crackdown, which has brought new arrests each day, is much bigger than Saudi authorities have admitted, with more than 500 people detained and double that number questioned.

And shockingly, those sources say that the longtime Saudi 'deep state' power broker and liaison with the West, Prince Bandar, is among the detained:

One of the most famous is Prince Bandar bin Sultan, a former Saudi ambassador to Washington and confidant of former US President George W Bush. There is no word on his fate, but Saudi authorities said that one of the corruption cases they are looking at is the al-Yamamah arms deal, in which Bandar was involved.

While no doubt Bandar's very well-known role in Saudi "oil for arms" programs which have come to define Saudi relations with the West over the past decades is a trumped up and "selective" charge (insofar as the highest levels of the state have overseen such shady dealing) the al-Yamamah deal in particular - which goes back to the mid-1980's - has been an historical embarrassment to both the UK and Saudi governments (BAE Systems was the prime British contractor involved) for the astounding level of fraudulent accounting exposed in UK courts.

Concerning Prince Bandar's role in the al-Yamamah deal, Middle East Eye continues:


(click the link above to read the remainder of the article)
 
Hello H2O said:
Sometimes it is the names involved in the purge that can be interesting. Prince Bandar, also referred to as 'Bander Bush being one of those names maybe is one of those.

Finian Cunningham writes about the reasoning behind the arrests:

For a start, the number of detained princes, as well as current and former government ministers, are in the dozens. The profiles of those arrested suggest a pattern that has more to do with eliminating potential rivals than with alleged corruption.

Potentially most sinister is that on the day of the mass arrests, a contender for inheriting the Saudi throne was killed in a helicopter crash. Prince Mansour bin Muqrin (42) was among eight officials who died when their chopper went down in southern Asir Province near the border with Yemen. Saudi media have not given any details about the cause of the crash. One might have expected the Saudis to lay the blame on Houthi rebels and, by extension, Iran. But no. The House of Saud and its media outlets have said little about the death of this senior royal. Significantly, too, the Houthi rebels and their media have said little about the incident. If there was a chance of the rebels being involved, one might expect them to prompt a propaganda coup claiming a spectacular blow against the Saudis whom they have been fighting a war against since March 2015.

The chopper victim Prince Mansour was the son of 72-year-old Prince Muqrin, who is one of the last surviving sons of the Saudi kingdom's founder Ibn Saud. (He is a half-brother to the sitting King Salman.)

Prince Muqrin was also former head of Saudi state intelligence (2005-2012) before he was made Crown Prince in January 2015 upon the death of his brother, the late King Abdullah. In the arcane world of Saudi power inheritance, the throne has always passed between Ibn Saud's sons, or from brother to brother. When Abdullah died in January 2015, the next in line was their brother Salman (the present king). After Salman, according to traditional succession rules, the next heir to the throne should have been Muqrin, who indeed was made Crown Prince in January 2015. However, three months later, King Salman demoted Muqrin as heir apparent. He was sidelined to make way for the emergence of Mohammed bin Salman, the son of the king, as Crown Prince. That marked an unprecedented rupture in Saudi royal tradition, and no doubt has left a seething resentment among the clans comprising the House of Saud.

Prince Muqrin and his lineage of six sons therefore can be seen as a dangerous rival to the ambitions of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. As his own father King Salman's health declines, the next-in-line appears to be clearing the royal court of potential competition for the throne.

It is not yet known what actually happened to the helicopter ferrying Prince Mansour last weekend. But it seems more than a coincidence that the crash occurred on the same day as the arrest and round-up of several other senior royals. Two of those arrested were Prince Mataib bin Abdullah and Prince Turki bin Abdullah. They are the sons of the late King Abdullah, and like Prince Mansour, they are cousins of Crown Prince MbS, and therefore could potentially mount a challenge to his succession to the throne.

The arrests also targeted the heads of national security, the National Guard and Navy, as well as Western-connected Saudi media magnates Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal and Waleed Al-Ibrahim, who are major shareholders in 20th Century Fox, News Corporation, Apple, Twitter, and TV satellite companies. Those arrests suggest that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman is trying to close down any backlash from within the Saudi security establishment, as well as shut off potentially negative media coverage.
 
Wayne Madsen goes into more detail on son-in-law Jared Kushner role in all this.

How Israel and Saudi Arabia Conspire to Seize Control of the Middle East
https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2017/11/09/how-israel-saudi-arabia-conspire-to-seize-control-middle-east.html

The leak of the Israeli cable followed two events in Saudi Arabia. The first was the de facto internal coup d’état launched by MbS against perceived enemies of his father, King Salman. The coup followed by a few days the second major event: a secretive trip made by President Donald Trump’s senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner to Riyadh. Kushner and MbS remained awake for many evenings until 0400 the next morning, jointly “planning strategy.” Kushner was accompanied to Riyadh by the Cairo-born US deputy national security adviser Dina Powell, a supporter of the government of the pro-Saudi Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sisi, and White House Middle East envoy Jason Greenblatt, a strong supporter of Israeli Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu and a close friend of the Kushner family.

As seen from the leaked Israeli cable, Kushner, Greenblatt, Powell, and MbS were strategizing a series of events that would push the Middle East toward a major Sunni/Wahhabist war, with the backing of Israel, against Iran, Lebanon, and the Houthi government in Yemen. MbS’s coup against senior princes of the House of Saud effectively changed the regime from “Saudi” to “Salmani.” MbS was a prime motivator behind the creation of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL), or "Da'esh," in Iraq and Syria; the chief architect of the genocidal Saudi-led war in Yemen; and the driving force behind the Gulf Cooperation Council's economic and travel sanctions imposed on Qatar. MbS, working with Kushner and the Israelis, also want to lure the United States into a major military conflict with Iran.

Rather than being a reformer or "moderate," MbS hearkens back to an age when rival sheikhs and tribal leaders vied for control over wide patches of desert lands in Arabia. MBS's ongoing coup d'état against rival princes of the House of Saud points to his determination to become an autocratic ruler over Saudi Arabia once his father, King Salman, leaves the scene. Although MbS has curbed the power of Saudi Arabia's dreaded religious police and allowed women the right to drive to gain popular support for his own "Salmani" movement in Saudi Arabia, his Salmani regime has shown an inclination to brook no political dissent, as seen with MbS’s arrests of powerful Saudi princes, businessmen, and moderate Wahhabist clerics.

Some Middle East experts see MbS’s rapid rise to power as eventually achieving the same autocratic rule over Saudi Arabia as that commanded by the founder of the modern Saudi state, Abdulaziz bin Saud, in the 1930s. And like Abdulaziz bin Saud, MbS has no problem cooperating with Zionists to achieve his goals. Historical documents and biographies show that the Abdulaziz, or Ibn Saud as he is commonly known, had no problem in expressing support in 1953 to Dr. Chaim Weizmann, the president of the World Zionist Organization and, later, the first president of the State of Israel, for the establishment of a Jewish state in Palestine. In a memo written for President Franklin Roosevelt, Lt. Col. Harold B. Hoskins, the president’s Middle East envoy, reported that Ibn Saud accepted the Zionist plan for a Jewish state in return for a £20,000,000 bribe paid to Ibn Saud by Weizmann. The recent “deal” between the Saudis and Israelis would appear to involve a bribe of a US war with Iran, backed by Riyadh and Jerusalem, that would mutually satisfy Trump and Kushner, in addition to Netanyahu and MbS. (Article continues.)
 
Emma said:
There is a recent interesting conversation with Marwa Osman Lebanese correspondent about what's happening in Saudi Arabia by Corbett Report Extras:

Thanks for the link. Well worth listening to. She is a very clear speaker. The last five minutes, she talks about Lebanon and how the people are reacting. As it is there is a great unity in Lebanon among all the leaders. They all want him back even if they didn't all agree with everything he did, but in the last year he had shown a lot of openness and doing good for the country. She doesn't believe in a war any time soon against Lebanon.
 
Here is an interesting analysis about the situation in Saudi Arabia:

https://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/113426/if-saudi-arabia-situation-doesnt-worry-youre-not-paying-attention

If The Saudi Arabia Situation Doesn't Worry You, You're Not Paying Attention
A key geopolitical axis is swiftly shifting
by Chris Martenson


While turbulent during the best of times, gigantic waves of change are now sweeping across the Middle East. The magnitude is such that the impact on the global price of oil, as well as world markets, is likely to be enormous.

A dramatic geo-political realignment by Saudi Arabia is in full swing this month. It’s upending many decades of established strategic relationships among the world's superpowers and, in particular, is throwing the Middle East into turmoil.

So much is currently in flux, especially in Saudi Arabia, that nearly anything can happen next. Which is precisely why this volatile situation should command our focused attention at this time.

The main elements currently in play are these:

A sudden and intense purging of powerful Saudi insiders (arrests, deaths, & asset seizures)
Huge changes in domestic policy and strategy
A shift away from the US in all respects (politically, financially and militarily)
Deepening ties to China
A surprising turn towards Russia (economically and militarily)
Increasing cooperation and alignment with Israel (the enemy of my enemy is my friend?)

Taken together, this is tectonic change happening at blazing speed.

That it's receiving too little attention in the US press given the implications, is a tip off as to just how big a deal this is -- as we're all familiar by now with how the greater the actual relevance and importance of a development, the less press coverage it receives. This is not a direct conspiracy; it's just what happens when your press becomes an organ of the state and other powerful interests. Like a dog trained with daily rewards and punishments, after a while the press needs no further instruction on the house rules.

It does emphasize, however, that to be accurately informed about what's going on, we have to do our own homework. Here's a short primer to help get you started.

A Quick Primer


Unless you study it intensively, Saudi politics are difficult to follow because they are rooted in the drama of a very large and dysfunctional family battling over its immense wealth. If you think your own family is nuts, multiply the crazy factor by 1,000, sprinkle in a willingness to kill any family members who get in your way, and you'll have the right perspective for grasping how Saudi 'politics' operate.

The House of Saud is the ruling royal family of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (hereafter referred to as "KSA") and consists of some 15,000 members. The majority of the power and wealth is concentrated in the hands of roughly 2,000 individuals. 4,000 male princes are in the mix, plus a larger number of involved females -- all trying to either hang on to or climb up a constantly-shifting mountain of power.

We’ll get to the current ruler, King Salman, and his powerful son, Mohammed Bin Salman (age 32), shortly. Before we do, though, let’s talk about the most seminal moment in recent Saudi history: the key oil-for-money-and-protection deal struck between the Nixon administration and King Faisal back in the early 1970’s.

This pivotal agreement allowed KSA to secretly recycle its surplus petrodollars back into US Treasuries while receiving US military protection in exchange. The secret was kept for 41 years, only recently revealed in 2016 due to a Bloomberg FOIA request:

The basic framework was strikingly simple. The U.S. would buy oil from Saudi Arabia and provide the kingdom military aid and equipment. In return, the Saudis would plow billions of their petrodollar revenue back into Treasuries and finance America’s spending.

It took several discreet follow-up meetings to iron out all the details, Parsky said. But at the end of months of negotiations, there remained one small, yet crucial, catch: King Faisal bin Abdulaziz Al Saud demanded the country’s Treasury purchases stay “strictly secret,” according to a diplomatic cable obtained by Bloomberg from the National Archives database.

“Buying bonds and all that was a strategy to recycle petrodollars back into the U.S.,” said David Ottaway, a Middle East fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center in Washington. But politically, “it’s always been an ambiguous, constrained relationship.”

The essence of this deal is pretty simple. KSA wanted to be able to sell its oil to its then largest buyer, the USA, while also having a safe place to park the funds, plus receive military protection to boot. But it didn’t want anybody else, especially its Arab neighbors, to know that it was partnering so intimately with the US who, in turn, would be supporting Israel. That would have been politically incendiary in the Middle East region, coming as it did right on the heels of the Yom Kipper War (1973).

As for the US, it got the oil it wanted and – double bonus time here – got KSA to recycle the very same dollars used to buy that oil back into Treasuries and contracts for US military equipment and training.

Sweet deal.

Note that this is yet another secret world-shaping deal successfully kept out of the media for over four decades. Yes Virginia, conspiracies do happen. Secrets can be (and are routinely) kept by hundreds, even thousands, of people over long stretches of time.

Since that key deal was struck back in the early 1970s, the KSA has remained a steadfast supporter of the US and vice versa. In return, the US has never said anything substantive about KSA’s alleged involvement in 9/11 or its grotesque human and women’s rights violations. Not a peep.

Until recently. Then Things Started To Break Down

In 2015, King Salman came to power. Things began to change pretty quickly, especially once he elevated his son Mohammed bin Salman (MBS) to a position of greater power.

Among MBS's first acts was to directly involve KSA into the Yemen civil war, with both troops on the ground and aerial bombings. That war has killed thousands of civilians while creating a humanitarian crisis that includes the largest modern-day outbreak of cholera, which is decimating highly populated areas. The conflict, which is considered a 'proxy war' because Iran is backing the Houthi rebels while KSA is backing the Yemeni government, continues to this day.

Then in 2016, KSA threatened to dump its $750 billion in (stated) US assets in response to a bill in Congress that would have released sensitive information implicating Saudi Arabia's involvement in 9/11. Then-president Obama had to fly over there to smooth things out. It seems the job he did was insufficient; because KSA-US relations unraveled at an accelerating pace afterwards. Mission NOT accomplished, it would seem.

In 2017, KSA accused Qatar of nefarious acts and made such extraordinary demands that an outbreak of war nearly broke out over the dispute., The Qatari leadership later accused KSA of fomenting ‘regime change’, souring the situation further. Again, Iran backed the Qatar government, which turned this conflict into another proxy battle between the two main Gulf region superpowers.

In parallel with all this, KSA was also supporting the mercenaries (aka "rebels" in western press) who were seeking to overthrow Assad in Syria -- yet another proxy war between KSA and Iran. It's been an open secret that, during this conflict, KSA has been providing support to some seriously bad terrorist organizations like Al-Qaeda, ISIS and other supposed enemies of the US/NATO. (Again, the US has never said 'boo' about that, proving that US rhetoric against "terrorists" is a fickle construct of political convenience, not a moral matter.)

Once Russia entered the war on the side of Syria's legitimate government, the US and KSA (and Israel) lost their momentum. Their dreams of toppling Assad and turning Syria into another failed petro-state like they did with Iraq and Libya are not likely to pan out as hoped.

But rather than retreat to lick their wounds, KSA's King Salman and his son are proving to be a lot nimbler than their predecessors.

Rather than continue a losing battle in Syria, they've instead turned their energies and attention to dramatically reshaping KSA's internal power structures:

Saudi Arabia’s Saturday Night Massacre

For nearly a century, Saudi Arabia has been ruled by the elders of a royal family that now finds itself effectively controlled by a 32-year-old crown prince, Mohammad bin Salman. He helms the Defense Ministry, he has extravagant plans for economic development, and last week arranged for the arrest of some of the most powerful ministers and princes in the country.

A day before the arrests were announced, Houthi tribesmen in Yemen but allied with Iran, Saudi Arabia’s regional rival, fired a ballistic missile at Riyadh.

The Saudis claim the missile came from Iran and that its firing might be considered “an act of war.”

Saudi Arabia was created between the two world wars under British guidance. In the 1920s, a tribe known as the Sauds defeated the Hashemites, effectively annexing the exterior parts of Saudi Arabia they did not yet control. The United Kingdom recognized the Sauds’ claim shortly thereafter. But since then, the Saudi tribe has been torn by ambition, resentment and intrigue. The Saudi royal family has more in common with the Corleones than with a Norman Rockwell painting.

The direct attack was undoubtedly met with threats of a coup. Whether one was actually planned didn’t matter. Mohammed Bin Salman had to assume these threats were credible since so many interests were under attack. So he struck first, arresting princes and ex-minsters who constituted the Saudi elite. It was a dangerous gamble. A powerful opposition still exists, but he had no choice but to act. He could either strike as he did last Saturday night, or allow his enemies to choose the time and place of that attack. Nothing is secure yet, but with this strike, there is a chance he might have bought time. Any Saudi who would take on princes and clerics is obviously desperate, but he may well break the hold of the financial and religious elite.

This 32 year-old prince, Mohammed bin Salman has struck first and deep, completely upending the internal power dynamics of Saudi Arabia.

He's taken on the political, financial and religious elites head on. For example, pushing through the decision to allow women to drive; a provocative move designed to send a clear message to the clerics who might oppose him. That message is: "I'm not fooling around here."

This is a classic example of how one goes about purging the opposition when either taking over a government after a coup, or implementing a big new strategy at a major corporation. You have to remove any possible opponents and then install your own loyalists. According the Rules for Rulers, you do this by diverting a portion of the flow of funds to your new backers while diminishing, imprisoning or killing all potential enemies.

So far, Mohammed bin Salman's action plan is par for the course. No surprises.

The above article from Stratfor (well worth reading in its entirety) continues with these interesting insights:

The Iranians have been doing well since the nuclear deal was signed in 2015. They have become the dominant political force in Iraq. Their support for the Bashar Assad regime in Syria may not have been enough to save him, but Iran was on what appears to be the winning side in the Syrian civil war. Hezbollah has been hurt by its participation in the war but is reviving, carrying Iranian influence in Lebanon at a time when Lebanon is in crisis after the resignation of its prime minister last week.

The Saudis, on the other hand, aren’t doing as well. The Saudi-built anti-Houthi coalition in Yemen has failed to break the Houthi-led opposition. And Iran has openly entered into an alliance with Qatar against the wishes of the Saudis and their ally, the United Arab Emirates.

Iran seems to sense the possibility of achieving a dream: destabilizing Saudi Arabia, ending its ability to support anti-Iranian forces, and breaking the power of the Sunni Wahhabis. Iran must look at the arrests in Saudi Arabia as a very bad move. And they may be. Mohammad bin Salman has backed the fundamentalists and the financial elite against the wall.

They are desperate, and now it is their turn to roll the dice. If they fall short, it could result in a civil war in Saudi Arabia.
If Iran can hit Riyadh with missiles, the crown prince’s opponents could argue that the young prince is so busy with his plans that he isn’t paying attention to the real threat. For the Iranians, the best outcome is to have no one come out on top.

This would reconfigure the geopolitics of the Middle East, and since the U.S. is deeply involved there, it has decisions to make.

So given Yemen, Syria, and its recent domestic purges, Saudi Arabia is in turmoil. It's in a far weaker position than it was a short while ago. This leaves the US in a far weaker regional position, too, at precisely the time when China and Russia are increasing their own presence (which we’ll get to next).

But first we have to discuss what might happen if a civil war were to engulf Saudi Arabia. The price of oil would undoubtedly spike. In turn, that would cripple the weaker countries, companies and households around the world that simply cannot afford a higher oil price. And there's a lot of them.

Financial markets would destabilize as long-suppressed volatility would explode higher, creating horrific losses across the board. That very few investors are mentally or financially prepared for such carnage is a massive understatement.

So..if you were Saudi Arabia, in need of helpful allies after being bogged down in an unwinnable war in Yemen, just defeated in a proxy war in Syria, and your longtime 'ally', the US, is busy pumping as much of its own oil as it can, what would you do?

Pivot To China


Given its situation, is it really any surprise that King Salman and his son have decided to pivot to China? In need of a new partner that would align better with their current and future interests, China is the obvious first choice.

So in March 2017, only a very short while after Obama's failed visit, a large and well-prepared KSA entourage accompanied King Salman to Beijing and inked tens of billions in new business deals:

China, Saudi Arabia eye $65 billion in deals as king visits

Mar 16, 2017

BEIJING (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia’s King Salman oversaw the signing of deals worth as much as $65 billion on the first day of a visit to Beijing on Thursday, as the world’s largest oil exporter looks to cement ties with the world’s second-largest economy.

The deals included a memorandum of understanding (MoU) between giant state oil firm Saudi Aramco and China North Industries Group Corp (Norinco), to look into building refining and chemical plants in China.

Saudi Basic Industries Corp (SABIC) and Sinopec, which already jointly run a chemical complex in Tinajin, also agreed to develop petrochemical projects in both China and Saudi Arabia.

Salman told Xi he hoped China could play an even greater role in Middle East affairs, the ministry added.

Deputy Chinese Foreign Minister Zhang Ming said the memorandums of understanding and letters of intent were potentially worth about $65 billion, involving everything from energy to space.

This was a very big deal in terms of Middle East geopolitics. It shook up many decades of established power, resulting in a shift away from dependence on America.

The Saudis arrived in China with such a huge crowd in tow that a reported 150 cooks had been brought along to just to feed everyone in the Saudi visitation party.

The resulting deals struck involved everything from energy to infrastructure to information technology to space. And this was just on the first visit. Quite often a brand new trade delegation event involves posturing and bluffing and feeling each other out; not deals being struck. So it’s clear that before the visit, well before, lots and lots of deals were being negotiated and terms agreed to so that the thick MOU files were ready to sign during the actual visit.

The scope and size of these business deals are eye catching, but the real clincher is King Salman's public statement expressing hope China will play "an even greater role in Middle East affairs."

That, right there, is the sound of the geopolitical axis-tilting. That public statement tells us everything we need to know about the sort of change the Salman dynasty intends to pursue.

So it should have surprised no one to hear that, in August this year, another $70 billion of new deals were announced between China and KSA. The fanfare extolled that Saudi-Sino relations had entered a new era, with “the agreements covering investment, trade, energy, postal service, communications, and media.”

This is a very rapid pace for such large deals. If KSA and China were dating, they’d be talking about moving in together already. They're clearly at the selecting furniture and carpet samples stage.

As for the US? It seems KSA isn't even returning its calls or texts at this point.

You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet...

All of the above merely describes how we arrived at where things stand today.

But as mentioned, the power grab underway in KSA by Mohammed bin Salman is unfolding in real-time. Developments are happening hourly -- while writing this, the very high-profile Prince Bandar bin Sultan (recent head of Saudi Intelligence and former longtime ambassador to the US) has been arrested.

The trajectory of events is headed in a direction that may well end the arrangement that has served as the axis around which geopolitics has spun for the past 40 years. The Saudis want new partners, and are courting China hard.

China, for reasons we discuss in Part 2 of this report, has an existential need to supplant America as Saudi Arabia's most vital oil customer.

And both Saudi Arabia and China are inking an increasing number of strategic oil deals with Russia. Why? We get into that in Part 2, too -- but suffice it to say, in the fast-shifting world of KSA foreign policy, it's China and Russia 'in', US 'out'.

Maybe not all the way out, but the US clearly has lost a lot of ground with KSA over the past few years. My analysis is that by funding an insane amount of shale oil development, at a loss, and at any cost (such as to our biggest Mideast ally) the US has time and again displayed that our ‘friendship’ does not run very deep. In a world where loyalty counts, the US has proved a disloyal partner. Can China position itself to be perceived of as a better mate? When it comes to business, I believe the answer is ‘yes.’

In Part 2: The Oil Threat we couple these developments with China and Russia’s recent efforts to drop the dollar from trade, especially when purchasing oil, and clearly see the unfolding of the biggest new driver of the world’s financial, monetary and geopolitical arrangements in 50 years.

We also explain why, unless something very dramatically changes in either the supply or demand equation for oil, and soon, we can now put a timeline in place for when the great unraveling begins. Somewhere between the second half of 2018 and the end of 2019 oil will dramatically increase in price and that will shake the foundations of the global mountain of debt and its related underfunded liabilities. Think 9.0 on the financial Richter scale.

Let me be blunt - you have to have your preparations done before this happens. You really, really want to be a year early on this (at least). When it starts happening, the breakdown will progress faster than you can react.
 
I may be looking at this wrong but I don't think Lebanon is the target but Hezbollah? And Israel and the Saudi's are using the excuse of Hezbollah - to directly target Iran for a major military conflict?

If the reports are accurate, that son-in-law Jared Kushner is working closely with MBS, behind closed doors, I have to assume that Trump gave his approval? Then Trump publically endorses the Saudi's behavior in rounding up the Crown Prince's rival's by stating "they were robbing the Kingdom blind".
For a President that promised to reduce troop activity in the Middle East and bring our solders home - starting a War with Iran - makes no sense?

What's also troubling, all the hype of Trump and Putin meeting on the sidelines of the APEC Summit for private talks - never materialized. Granted, they shook hands and exchanged a few words in public but there was no private meeting. Unless, when Trump was getting the "Royal" treatment in China, he conveyed information to Xi Jinping to relay to Putin? Putin and Xi Jinping did have a private meeting.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has held a meeting with Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the APEC summit.
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201711101058996639-russia-china-cooperation-putin/

Since the Niger Ambush incident made headlines, I have come across very few news articles on the "General's in the White House". Prior to that, there were at least a hand full of reports, each day (sending extra troops here or there or the Pentagon giving updates on the Drills).

Even VP Pence keeps a low profile. This is his latest appearance with Turkey's Prime Minister Binali Yildirim but to find another report on Pence, I have to go back 4 or 5 weeks, before he made the news again.

Turkey Expects US to Stop Arming Syrian Kurds After Daesh's Defeat
https://sputniknews.com/world/201711101058981893-turkey-no-arms-kurds/

My concern up to this point, especially with the recent developments with the Saudi's Crown Prince, that as soon as the Crown Prince is made King - all hell is going to break loose? Israel and the Saudi's will attack Iran and NATO starts firing at Russia?
 
What If The Saudis, The US And Israel Attack Lebanon?
https://vidrebel.wordpress.com/2017/11/11/what-if-the-saudis-the-us-and-israel-attack-lebanon/

Recent events in the Mideast are rather disturbing even to people like me whose baseline position is that the professionals in both the Israeli and US military will reject war with Lebanon and its allies as unwinnable. But there are some disturbing events all over the Mideast that give us all reason for concern.

Even Dov Zakheim wrote an article in the Chicago Tribune speculating that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (MSB), Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law, and PM Netanyahu were plotting something. MSB had gone to Israel in September. Kushner has gone to Saudi Arabia 4 times. Kushner had been going to Israel but the cover story was that he was negotiating with the Palestinians. Some speculate that he wants the Palestinian leader Abbas to support Israel in a war with Lebanon.

(In case you forgot, rabbi Dov Zakheim was the Comptroller of the Pentagon on 9-10-2001 when Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld admitted to CBS News that he could not trace $2.3 trillion in DOD spending. Times have not changed. Professor Mark Skidmore has shown that HUD and DOD cannot account for $21 trillion in spending since 1998.)

MSB has been arresting his rival heirs to the throne. Some of these men have tribal and hence family links to the military. He has arrested over 1,200 other less well known Saudis. MSB has attempted to seize some $800 billion in assets. He needs the money to keep the war in Yemen going, to prepare for war against Lebanon (Hezbollah) and even Iran. Plus he needs to spread around lots of cash to bribe the followers of the princes he arrested.

The US, Saudis and Israel have been fighting a war against Yemen to restore former President Hadi. But their man has advanced Mad Cow Disease according to Mideast sources. Al Jazeera says he is under house arrest. The Iranians say the Saudis had given him $80 million to fight the opposition but he stole the money and probably had an indefensible position anyway.

Mansour Hadi was chosen as a president for a two-year transitional period on February 21, 2012, in an election in which he was the only candidate. In January 2014 his mandate was extended for another year. However, he remained in power after the expiration of his mandate so the people forced him to flee to Saudi Arabia.

So the war in Yemen is a humanitarian crisis and is going nowhere.

Meanwhile in Lebanon, PM Saad Hariri fled to Saudi Arabia where he resigned. Some say he too is under house arrest. Hariri is a billionaire. He used to be a multi-billionaire through the Oger construction company. Recently, 150 unpaid foreign workers seized 150 vehicles and fled. They probably wanted to either hold the vehicles for ransom or to sell them in the black market. Oger has 31,000 unpaid employees including 200 French engineers and managers. Lawsuits abound. The current MBS regime thinks Hariri owes the regime his share of the $9 billion bill for the collapse of Oger.

Hariri’s problems began in January 2011 when he was overheard comparing the Saudi Assistant Minister of Interior, Prince Mohammed bin Nayef, to the “bloodthirsty” Syrian military intelligence chief Assef Shawkat. The company was raided 2 weeks later. Hariri’s economic woes have led to problems in Lebanon where his party was in disarray and he had been forced to accept Hezbollah’s candidate for the Presidency on the 46th ballot. President Michel Aoun is a Catholic and a former army general.

But now Mohammed bin Nayef’s assets have been seized. He was seen in public at Prince Mansour bin Muqrin Al Saud’s funeral. Local sources say the helicopter he was in near the Yemeni border was shot down by the Saudi Air Force.

And now Prince Bandar, a close friend of the Bush Crime family, has been arrested too.

Saad Hariri’s father Rafik had been Lebanon’s Prime Minister but was assassinated. Hezbollah said they captured drone footage from the Israelis prior to the man’s murder. Israel and the corporate media blames Hezbollah and Iran. Hezbollah blames Israel.

Most people of every political persuasion in Lebanon believe Hariri is being held against his will. He has not been able to talk to political supporters in Lebanon or even family members who were willing to travel to Saudi Arabia.

What sparked all of this activity? Some think it was the victory of the Syrians and their allies in Russia and Hezbollah against Al Qaeda, ISIS and other thugs hired by Israel, the US and the Saudis. There is a rumor that in 10 days or so that Russia will demand US forces leave Syria. The US has been threatening Syrian forces that come too close to the Kurdish soldiers who are occupying Syrian land.

So we have many plots and we could even see another coup in Saudi Arabia. Israel has been practicing war with Hezbollah. War Games happen from time to time as their defeat in the 2006 Lebanon war deeply disturbed the Zionists.

China and Russia have been stockpiling gold. Russia does not need to stockpile oil but China has a 6 month supply according to the latest business reports. Are the Chinese preparing for war?

Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have asked their citizens to leave Lebanon. This could be a prelude to war but it also just as likely that they are trying to apply economic pressure to get Lebanon back into line after the US-Saudi defeat in Syria.

Before anyone cranks up a Mideast war, I would like to make a few points:

Hezbollah has missiles capable of flattening Haifa. The Israelis had to move their Haifa ammonia storage facility as a direct hit would have blown up their port. Haifa is a petrochemical center and would produce lots of secondary fires if hit by missiles.

Hezbollah has sent drones over Israel and mapped out targets. A prime target is the Israeli electrical grid which Hassan Nasrallah said could be taken down. It would take the Israelis 6 months to get their electricity back on.

Hezbollah has dozens of 252 man battalions which they plan to send through tunnels to points inside Israel. They can pre-position hundreds of rockets which can be fired as almost one shot one kill weapons at close range.

They have sufficient long range missiles to take out Israeli air bases and to attack Tel Aviv.

Hezbollah likes to stage surprises for the Israelis in a military operation. One of their 2006 surprises was an attack on an Israeli Navy ship using a Chinese C-802 missile. They now have Russian made anti-ship missiles with much larger payloads and greater range. Hezbollah will surprise the Israelis by striking high value targets either at sea or in the port of Haifa with Russian and Chinese missiles. They have an unknown quantity of these weapons. They upgraded their missiles as a price for helping Russia and Iran in Syria.

A ship carrying ammonia if hit by a missile would create a firestorm greater than one of those atomic bombs the US dropped on Japan.

Another couple of surprises would be their two (or more) 50 man suicide squads. They did not have these in 2006, They could go against vital and iconic Israeli assets inside Israel. These 2 operations would be written about for years. Hamas in 2009 used tunnels to send in a small squad to kill Israeli officers and senior sergeants at a training facility. But these men would be better trained and better armed. And there are 10 times as many men involved with more preparation.

If the war spreads to Iran and Syria, then …

Iran is mass producing Mach 14 and Mach 13 missiles. They got the designs from Russia. The US has no defense against any missile faster than Mach 10.

The Iranian backed Popular Militias in Iraq would attack US forces in Iraq after the American bases had been destroyed by missiles. Any soldiers not killed would be captured and shown on TV.

All American bases in US Central Command would be destroyed by missiles in the first five minutes. American soldiers not killed in Afghanistan would be captured and shown on TV.

The US Persian Gulf fleet would be sunk in the first two minutes. The Iranians would send out thousands of fast Zodiac boats to capture any surviving American sailors.

Those Iraqi Popular Militia forces could easily cross the border into Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. If there are no Americans in the area, the militia men could take down the Saudi Army with a little help from Iran. Try to buy oil after Iran gets control of the oil from Iraqi, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Kuwaiti.

Oil shipments out of the Persian Gulf and even other locations would be cut off. The Chinese have a 6 month supply, but the price for the rest of us would hit $200. This would cause a worldwide crash in stock and bond markets. We have more Unpayable Debts to cancel than anytime in history so we would face financial ruin. I would expect Nationwide Food Riots to be followed by the destruction of our cities.

The defeat of the US military will be decisive. One result will be that the Federal Reserve Note will no longer be an international reserve currency. Currently, if Germany buys oil from the Saudis, they use US dollars. No more. In the past the US was able to print dollars and buy free things from overseas. Jim Rickards says when foreigners dump the dollar for the IMF’s SDR that the price of imported things will go up 500% which will impoverish the bottom 90% of America. This will happen anyway but losing a war in the Mideast will make this happen a lot sooner.

As I write this, it is Veteran Day. World War I ended on 11-11-1918. But the war of the Elite, the Bankers and the Jewish Lobby has waged against us has never ended. I grew up on military bases and met many who told me of the friends and mates they lost. I say Enough. All the Elite ever did was rob us, ridicule us and betray us. I say No More. Consent to self-destruction has been withdrawn.
 
Thank you Angelburst for providing so many indepth info and sources. Ofcourse, a war with iran would be a trigger for economic collapse, but there is a bias maybe insofar as the mainstream news does not yet want to know what is up, and hopes it is about local corruption or because MBS has been a warmaker so maybe that or a coup.. HA there it is. Ex head prince of intelligence arrested. Media mogul ex crownprince Alwaleed would have connections to... deep state and hillary corruption. Also owns ¨half of america¨ like the top of Mandalay from where the shooting in Vegas, at wich also attending MBS himself.. Here he is, bailing out: (americandigitalnews.com/index.php/2017/11/07/las-vegas-saudi-crown-prince-salman-assassination-attempt/). a lot of nice comments attached, too.
Looks like talaweeds (CIA?) men have been shooting at the concert, to divert police for attacking MBS.
That would mean MBS survived a coup, like Erdogan, maybe he will get nicer when fromunder deepstate, too?
I did not know this source, Jason goodman had Saudi presence @ las vegas as subject, a reaction gave that link.
Much to think about again, but does not look like war to me, as MBS will want to have his troops at home for now.
 
A rough timeline of recent Israeli, US and Saudi events:

Thursday 7 September 2017 Bin Salman visited Israel with an official delegation
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171021-israeli-official-confirms-bin-salman-visited-tel-aviv-last-month/

Thursday 14 September 2017 Hariri’s Russia visit aims to deepen defense ties
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1160641/middle-east

Wednesday 20 September 2017 US Opens First Military Base In Israel, Adding To Over 800 Worldwide
http://www.mintpressnews.com/us-opens-first-military-base-israel-adding-800-worldwide/232235/

Wednesday 20 September 2017 Israeli Air Force Launches Airstrike on Positions in Syria's Occupied Golan
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960629000305

Friday 22 September 2017 Israeli Air Force Targets Damascus International Airport in Syria
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960631000525

Monday 25 September 2017 Kurdish referendum: Saudi, UAE Secretly Worked for Kurdistan Secession
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960730001294

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Sunday 1 October 2017 Mass shooting at Mandalay Bay Casino during a concert in Las Vegas, NV
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/las-vegas-police-investigating-shooting-mandalay-bay-n806461

Thursday 5 October 2017 Saudi King Arrives in Moscow for First Ever Visit
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201710041057947876-saudi-king-arrives-in-moscow/

Monday 9 October 2017 Trump considering peace deal between Israelis and Palestinians before he considers moving the US embassy to Jerusalem
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960717001439

Sunday 22 October 2017 Netanyahu very upset with Iraqi forces capturing Kirkuk, takes action to reclaim oil
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/__trashed-3/

Wednesday 25 October 2017 NSA document confirms Saudi Prince ordered March 18, 2013 attacks on Syrian Presidential Palace/Damascus Airport
http://www.fort-russ.com/2017/10/nsa-document-confirms-saudi-prince.html

Friday 27 October 2017 Gaza security Officer Tawfiq Abu Naim injured in an explosion in a "failed assassination attempt"
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960807001518

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Wednesday, November 1, and return to Israel on Sunday, November 5 Netanyahu to go to London next week for Balfour Declaration centennial
_http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Netanyahu-to-go-to-London-next-week-for-Balfour-Declaration-centennial-508133

2 November 1917 - 2 November 2017 - 100 year Balfour Declaration
The declaration had offered a "home for the Jewish people" in what was then the entirety of historical Palestine.

Saturday 4 November 2017 Lebanese Prime Minister Saad Al-Hariri announced his resignation
http://www.arabnews.com/node/1188211/middle-east

Saturday 4 November 2017 Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu endorsed the resignation
https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/926878529240911872

Sunday 5 November 2017 After Lebanese PM Hariri's shocking resignation, Israel sent a cable to all of its embassies
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-07/leaked-secret-israeli-cable-confirms-israeli-saudi-coordination-lebanon

Sunday 5 November 2017 Saudi princes among dozens detained in 'corruption' purge
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-41874117

Sunday 5 November 2017 Saudi Arabian prince, Mansour bin Muqrin killed along with several other officials in a helicopter crash
https://www.sott.net/article/366707-Saudi-Arabian-prince-several-officials-killed-in-helicopter-crash-near-Yemen-border

Sunday 5 November 2017 Death of Prince Abdul Aziz bin Fahd - killed during a firefight as authorities attempted to arrest him
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-06/second-saudi-prince-confirmed-killed-during-crackdown

Thursday 9 November 2017 Abbas and Saudi Crown Prince discuss anti-Iran alliance
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20171109-abbas-and-saudi-crown-prince-discuss-anti-iran-alliance/


The Jewish roots of the Saudi Royal Family
http://themillenniumreport.com/2017/06/the-jewish-roots-of-the-saudi-royal-family-2/
 
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