A troubled individual

[koin]

I wasn't sure where to put this... but its been on my mind a lot just recently.

This is in regards to the girl on the right of the above photo...

I dated this girl for a brief period of time (3-4 weeks) and was intrigued by some of the things she used to tell me, including strange dreams that she has everynight, spirit attachment (she was apparently a magnet for it) and other strange happenings including a guardian angle that was with her for the majority of her childhood and who she could speak with.

At one point I thought she may be a shaman. She has had a very damaging up bringing, including sexual/physical abuse from a step father, drugs and other trauma. She has been diagnosed with bipolar and is indeed quite erratic in her emotions and actions.

After meeting her and learning some more about her I decided to try and assist her as best I could and perhaps get her to start the work. The sheer amount of drama that followed was a more then I could handle and consequently affected my own progress. From what I could see, she never actively tried to change herself but relied more and more on my own emotional stability. After this I ended the relationship and she has persued me ever since.

I directed her towards spiritual teaching including the C's Wave series and printed off some information too give her. I also warned her that if she wanted to change for the better, things would get a lot worse before they get better.

She has recently contacted me with the attached photo and said she has been suffering what I believe to be heavy psychic attacks and maybe some sleep paralysis. She told me she has woken up standing next too her bed or on the floor often having been dragged from her bed or in her own words "I can feel something enter my room through the door and sit on me while I'm in bed, I cant move or talk and I know its something evil". Also while sitting in the bath with her eyes closed, something has "splashed into the water". This is just what she has told me over the phone yesterday and has apparently been going on for a few weeks.

I remember seeing these ghostly orbs in some of the photo's Laura had put up somewhere. It was during a party and the orbs appeared in the house and also outside where Laura, Ark and the others had been sitting and spinning, ect around a bon fire. I had a brief look but cannot find the C's explanation of these orbs. I think they were either evidence of spirits being present or a bleedthrough of some description.

So my point is... is the orb in the photo maybe the guardian who she has spoken of previously, or possibly one of the attackers that is making her life hell recently. Has anyone else seen these orbs in their own pictures? Any advise on how I should help her?

I'm planning to gather dietary information too assist her in fighting the bipolar and attacks. Also perhaps just talk with her and answer any questions she has with regards to whats happening and referring her to the forrum or wave series/adventures when I cannot provide sufficient explanation.

I've been fighting my own battles and haven't had the vigilance to help her besides sugge. But I remember early in the wave series that a individual with high potential in STO orientation, will often have assigned entities to attack and prevent their development... Maybe that's why I feel the need too help... But it could be just karma being burned off... so I'm rather unsure...

 

[HiThere]

It is important to try to establish if she merits the effort; i.e. is it possible to obtain an educated opinion about her behavioral pattern; is she suffering through symptoms that isn't a consequence of her own behaviour, or can her problems be related to her own behaviour (borderline, "drama queen", manipulative)?
This is really difficult to distinguish but is essential to be aware of, because you are risking a long term involvement with someone who might call you in the middle of the night and threaten to commit suicide unless you give all kinds of emotional and financial support. If she is diagnosed with bipolar disorder that is a serious diagnosis, where approximately 25 % commit suicide during their lives.
I sympathize with you wanting to help, but if you decide to go in, be aware that you need to go all in, and if you suddenly pull out later that might trigger acute worsening of your friends' symptoms.

 

[truth seeker]

After meeting her and learning some more about her I decided to try and assist her as best I could and perhaps get her to start the work. The sheer amount of drama that followed was a more then I could handle and consequently affected my own progress. From what I could see, she never actively tried to change herself but relied more and more on my own emotional stability. After this I ended the relationship and she has persued me ever since.

I think this paragraph pretty much says it all and tells you what you'll be in for in the future. There's also the possibility that she's still trying to persue you and is hooking into your need to save others. I'm not saying that she's making this up, more than likely she is experiencing problems and is just unconscious in terms of seeking help. If she's bipolar, this is an issue that she probably needs to settle with outside help. My current understanding is that you've already given her information from here. Was it dietary and what, if any progress has she made? Try to discern what she does as opposed to what she says. Easier said than done but you really don't want to become entangled in a situation that drains you.

But I remember early in the wave series that a individual with high potential in STO orientation, will often have assigned entities to attack and prevent their development...

This applies to you as well, not just her and it works through people. If she doesn't have the will or ability to fight this battle, there is little you can do.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

I don't have much to say, but fwiw, I agree with Truth Seeker.

So my point is... is the orb in the photo maybe the guardian who she has spoken of previously, or possibly one of the attackers that is making her life hell recently. Has anyone else seen these orbs in their own pictures? Any advise on how I should help her?

The orb in the photo could be anything- you'll never know for sure. I have seen them in photos I've taken before, and from what I understand it's a pretty common occurrence for many.

You may find this thread about "orbs" interesting as well.

Also a thought came to me that perhaps this "guardian angel" could be some sort of spirit attachment passing its self off as a "guardian angel". Considering the psychological state of this girl, I wouldn't lean towards any form of STO intervention being the case.

 

[koin]

Yes, I agree with the general perspectives of hithere and truth seeker. I always knew it would not be easy trying to help someone in this way, when they are so deep in a negative spiral particularly when I struggle to stay vigilant myself. I guess it just helped to hear it from individuals who's opinion is more objective then anyone currently in my life. FWIW I have already been called in the middle of the night and threatened with her own suicide before I distanced myself from her.

I have only given her the introduction page and some of the first edition wave chapters. I was planning on giving dietary info but as you mentioned, its difficult too moniter any progress.

Thanks for the orb info deelet, it makes food for thought. At least I can explain to her that it may or may not be a good thing. I don't think she appreciates how much of a trapped existence this really is.

Thanks again for your comments.

 

[stellar]

Just a thought Koin, I don't know if you have read 'Trapped in the Mirror' by Elan Golomb but it may be helpful to read it together over coffee ( or tea :P) and see what realisations may transpire.It may trigger a 'think for yourself' response.

It's hard to help people who have not learned to do that; think for themselves. :/.

 

[Mr.Anderson]

TruthSeeker

also the possibility that she's still trying to persue you and is hooking into your need to save others.

Be very careful. Try to stay objective. Try not to become sentimental or emotionally involved. She as to be willing to do her own work and ask for help. Not just your help.

 

[Buddy]

I agree with Mr.Anderson. Seems like this young lady unmistakably projects neediness and a dependence condition on everyone around her - even the aether. If there is hyper-dimensionality involved, it's only because entities are standing online awaiting a chance to be 'of service' considering how she is wasting her energy.

Probably the best action in this case if you must help: gently but firmly show her ways she can demonstrate her own ability to take care of her own needs. She's not looking for real knowledge - just reinforcement of her condition and attention-exchanging preferences, OSIT.

She may have huge STO potential for all we know. She may have come into life with all kinds of issues in order to overcome them and show others the way. If this is the case, then later on in her life, you will be remembered as someone who wanted to help but didn't have a clue, or someone who knew exactly what she was really asking for - even if it were a firm but compassionate "no!" (depending on the situation).

I would like to think you want to represent the latter option, but there may also be other, better options and advice. :)

 

[deleven]

Hi Koin

I got myself involved in a similar plight once. Can't say that I regret it, as I am much the wiser for it. However, I did not know of this forum and yet had not become conciously aware of The Work. It certainly led me there. It seems that you are already on the path therefore no need for the drama. Personally I needed to be shocked into realizing that I couldn't champion her cause. The adventure was harrowing and I have no inclination to repeat. Have you read Unholy Hungers by Barbara Holt? Be careful. Psychic vampirism is very real!

Best regards

David