Adam Abraham - Phaelosopher - Jim Humble and MMS

[truth seeker]

I did. It began with an intro (about 2 minutes) by Abraham who then interviews Humble. Abraham slips in a slight dig at the FDA. The intro seems to be done in a separate location than the interview was. He asks Humble about the beginnings of mms. They then go onto talking about malaria and how Humble was able to treat it. Abraham asks about traditional malaria treatments and how mms "works". Humble then "explains" the process of what it is about mms that works and how he figured it out. He brings up the chlorine and table salt stuff and ends with how mms selects pathogens. That's about it.

The questions seem geared towards promoting Humble and mms in a good light.

 

[Laura]

In the end, it doesn't really look like any grand conspiracy on the part of the participants, just looks like they are out to make money - all of Humble's protestations to the contrary aside. If there is ANY "conspiratorial" factor here, it is on the side of the FDA and other authorities that COULD stop the selling of this stuff if they wanted to. They've sure done it on things that actually WERE beneficial, and like OVERNIGHT!

 

[truth seeker]

In the end, it doesn't really look like any grand conspiracy on the part of the participants, just looks like they are out to make money - all of Humble's protestations to the contrary aside. If there is ANY "conspiratorial" factor here, it is on the side of the FDA and other authorities that COULD stop the selling of this stuff if they wanted to. They've sure done it on things that actually WERE beneficial, and like OVERNIGHT!

Much thanks to you and everyone who participated!

 

[Nienna]

In the end, it doesn't really look like any grand conspiracy on the part of the participants, just looks like they are out to make money - all of Humble's protestations to the contrary aside. If there is ANY "conspiratorial" factor here, it is on the side of the FDA and other authorities that COULD stop the selling of this stuff if they wanted to. They've sure done it on things that actually WERE beneficial, and like OVERNIGHT!

You know, now that you bring this up, the FDA made just enough noise so that Humble could say, "See, we must have good stuff, the FDA is trying to shut us down." But not really shut him down. Maybe it is because Humble is in a different country? So the FDA can't touch him?

I don't know, but that in itself is suspicious, as you said.

 

[Steve M.]

Can you give me a synopsis?

This is my take.

MMS Beginnings: Jim Humble Interview by Adam Abraham Found it on youtube: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6CLwMrhwZA

My view is that they talked about what little they can in promotional terms but never give much context to how it works - scientifically or biologically. How does it kill pathogens and not White blood cells, bacteria.. oh it just does, at least that is the perception I myself got. Oh and while it is a mineral, it is somehow smart.
There is also some info in the video about how Chlorine Dioxide was supposed to oxygenate the blood.

Also he never gives the names of the Universities that had been studying and using the substance in MMS while making the claim that others had been studying its medical usage. The studies of unnamed University somehow confused the fact that they weren’t working with oxygen, but Chlorine Dioxide.
Then he goes on to claim the usual –it’s not chlorine at all, the table salt connection (sodium chloride, I guess) and how it isn’t at all chlorine. For the most part - regurgitating many things he’s said in the past. Here is something that I got –may not be ‘exact’ word for word, due to slight hearing issues.

“..kills the pathogens in the body, it, it is a pathogen killer and it’s been known as a pathogen killer for 100 years. And it, and although no one has used it in the body, it’s been used every other place that you can think of. Used in Hospitals, it’s used in stockyards, its, uh, it’s used in water purification systems, it’s used throughout the world to, to uh, kill, uh, pathogens, to kill pathogens and not kill the, the beneficial bacteria that might be in the water. And uh, and uh, so it has ability to be selective, it will select the pathogens and not kill the good things. (movie fades.. credits)

 

[Approaching Infinity]

My view is that they talked about what little they can in promotional terms but never give much context to how it works - scientifically or biologically. How does it kill pathogens and not White blood cells, bacteria.. oh it just does, at least that is the perception I myself got. Oh and while it is a mineral, it is somehow smart.
There is also some info in the video about how Chlorine Dioxide was supposed to oxygenate the blood.

Also he never gives the names of the Universities that had been studying and using the substance in MMS while making the claim that others had been studying its medical usage. The studies of unnamed University somehow confused the fact that they weren’t working with oxygen, but Chlorine Dioxide.
Then he goes on to claim the usual –it’s not chlorine at all, the table salt connection (sodium chloride, I guess) and how it isn’t at all chlorine. For the most part - regurgitating many things he’s said in the past. Here is something that I got –may not be ‘exact’ word for word, due to slight hearing issues.

“..kills the pathogens in the body, it, it is a pathogen killer and it’s been known as a pathogen killer for 100 years. And it, and although no one has used it in the body, it’s been used every other place that you can think of. Used in Hospitals, it’s used in stockyards, its, uh, it’s used in water purification systems, it’s used throughout the world to, to uh, kill, uh, pathogens, to kill pathogens and not kill the, the beneficial bacteria that might be in the water. And uh, and uh, so it has ability to be selective, it will select the pathogens and not kill the good things. (movie fades.. credits)

In short, it's a bunch of hogwash disinfo and lies! 'Nuff said. Thanks for the summary, Balberon.

 

[SeekinTruth]

I agree that it just seems to be about making money. The strange thing is that Mark Sircus has been one of the leading people in warning against the dangers of MMS, citing medical / scientific evidence of its dangerous, toxic affects to humans, as well as pointing out the claims of Humble and supporters being nonsense (such as selectively killing pathogens). So it seems this peculiarity points to the gist of it being that Adam Abraham gets "excited" by certain things but the bottom line is he sees them as opportunities to make money.

This, of course is nothing new. But making money (honestly), never an easy thing in the best of times, due to the pathocrathic system, has and will become more and more difficult now with the controlled implosion of the world economy. So scruples in HOW one makes money will become even more rare.

 

[Laura]

This Adam Abraham guy is beginning to look more and more like paid COINTELPRO:

_http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/in-response-to-dr-segura-on-mms/

The Humble/MMS gang attacked that particular article from day one with religious fervor.

It seems that more and more people are coming forward and reporting the evil effects of MMS so they must be getting desperate.

 

[aragorn]

This Adam Abraham guy is beginning to look more and more like paid COINTELPRO:

_http://phaelosopher.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/in-response-to-dr-segura-on-mms/

The Humble/MMS gang attacked that particular article from day one with religious fervor.

It seems that more and more people are coming forward and reporting the evil effects of MMS so they must be getting desperate.

What a load of horse hockey! I stopped reading here:

What she also doesn’t tell you is that, if that apple turns brown, it’s because it lacks sufficient oxygen (energy) to sustain life, and is essentially dead. Nature is then signaled to begin the decay process. When there is insufficient oxygen within the body, the same process occurs. Chlorine dioxide differs from chlorine in that it delivers oxygen, and even then it’s only where needed, as determined by the activity of enzymes (respiratory nitrate reductase) that naturally occur in certain anaerobic bacteria such as Salmonella and E. coli.

White is black, black is white...these people are just unbelievable. :O