Agriculture and History: Was it necessary?

[Alana]

It seems to me that first there was pathology/predation, then agriculture (which was early technology, applied for purposes of preying on humanity), and then more pathology/predation and more "advanced" technology. Not a very auspicious beginning, but one with clear intent (from hindsight) and not friendly to most of humanity. To these predators, technology has been enormously successful. For the rest of us, I don't think so.

There must be other paths, but perhaps not in this particular 3rd density STS world with its particular lessons and the ever-present predator. Without the technology of life itself we couldn't exist in our present form, but then this form of life is a peculiar sort of technology that literally feeds upon itself in ways with which I feel uncomfortable. Perhaps in the big (higher-density) picture this all resolves.

What if psychopathy is part of the natural order - then the very first souled beings experiencing physicality at the dawn of time would've been easily hoodwinked by the psychopaths owing to their innocence and ignorance. And ever since then it's been a cycle, and there never was an Eden except the kind you create for yourself, which a bunch of techno-spiritual people did after the cataclysm that destroyed the Atlantean empire?

Yes, it seems that it was the appearance/existence of psychopathy that led to the kind of technology (and agriculture practice) that seeks to dominate over the planet and over other human beings. And being able to see this is what make us able to make different choices that do not support this way of thinking/living anymore, starting with our own internal adaptation to the pathological environment, forging a different path in a way. Par and parcel of our lessons here in 3D.

 

[Eongar]

In fact, it has been found that with the advent of agriculture decreased human health, while the emergence of agriculture and land hoarding wars arose. I think those two facts and say many things.

 

[Esote]

... Was agriculture necessary for modern technology and related breakthroughs?

And if this is so, was this innovation (modern tech) necessary, in terms of humanity's spiritual growth?

Necessity or hazard, that is the question !

If it is there, it must be part of the natural-spiritual process, path-logical somehow ;)

Necessitas was the Roman goddess of destiny and fate.

The Greek philosopher Epicure is known to have said something like (my translation) : "There is no necessity at all to live under the empire of necessity"...

All there is is lessons. It is "necessary" to learn

 

[Nienna]

Many years ago while watching some show like Unsolved Mysteries (I can't think of which one it is as it was soooo many yeras ago), an Native American elder was on talking about the white man and his technology vs spirituality. I found a quote that is very similar to what he said here.

Traditional people of Indian nations have interpreted the two roads that face the light-skinned race as the road to technology and the road to spirituality. We feel that the road to technology.... has led modern society to a damaged and seared earth. Could it be that the road to technology represents a rush to destruction, and that the road to spirituality represents the slower path that the traditional native people have traveled and are now seeking again? The earth is not scorched on this trail. The grass is still growing there.

 

[Voyageur]

Many years ago while watching some show like Unsolved Mysteries (I can't think of which one it is as it was soooo many yeras ago), an Native American elder was on talking about the white man and his technology vs spirituality. I found a quote that is very similar to what he said here.

Traditional people of Indian nations have interpreted the two roads that face the light-skinned race as the road to technology and the road to spirituality. We feel that the road to technology.... has led modern society to a damaged and seared earth. Could it be that the road to technology represents a rush to destruction, and that the road to spirituality represents the slower path that the traditional native people have traveled and are now seeking again? The earth is not scorched on this trail. The grass is still growing there.

Yes, as Crazy Horse said, ""One does not sell the land people walk on." And perhaps from our societal adventures and then the enforcement of farming and associated technologies:

The whites were always trying to make the Indians give up their life and live like the white men - go to farming, work hard and do as they did - and the Indians did not know how to do that, and did not want to anyway….If the Indians had tried to make the whites live like them, the whites would have resisted, and it was the same with many Indians.
Wamditanka (Big Eagle) of the Santee Sioux