Airasia QZ8501 Missing

[Yozilla]

When the data from the recorders is released, we may still have questions about what happened. The authority may not be willing to risk the facts, but it seems like they have a lot of options to pick from.

Considering recorders a "rescue team"(70+) has arrived from Russia and their divers are searching for black boxes... curious...

 

[Beau]

In the absence of any sighting reports or other evidence of a meteor fall coincident with this accident, it seems somewhat like wishful thinking to propose that as the cause. That's all I meant to suggest in my response.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Do you say that if planes flew through thunderstorms we would see more incidents like this? I would personally find that highly doubtful.

 

[NevadaCat]

What the hey is going on with Airasia planes? Just read the post on the Airasia flight that scared passengers into (wisely) not reboarding after the engine stopped with a bang while it was still on the runway. Some kind of tech malfunction with a manufactured gremlin that popped too soon?

 

[WIN 52]

What the hey is going on with Airasia planes? Just read the post on the Airasia flight that scared passengers into (wisely) not reboarding after the engine stopped with a bang while it was still on the runway. Some kind of tech malfunction with a manufactured gremlin that popped too soon?

A perfect safety record, this alone should make a peron question why? Almost inhuman like, don't you think?

My vote, bribing safety inspectors! This bribery is business as usual in psychopathic circles, I know, it is necessary for business, it seems. I refused to pay the bribes and a $5,000,000 a year import/export business ceased to exist.


Mod's note: fixed quote box

 

[lucasraffablog]

Against bad propaganda spread by the media, flying is the safest means of transport in the world and each year the numbers are reduced.
In 2014 there were 12 aircraft crashes, with more than 30 million flights.
The worst year was 1972, with nearly 2500 victims and 55 plane crashes. The best years were 2011, 2012, 2013.
These are facts.
What I mean is that the aviation industry is being perfected year after year. There are more and more flights and less accidents. So, accidents by "regular" climates conditions are unusual today.

 

[Joe]

What I mean is that the aviation industry is being perfected year after year. There are more and more flights and less accidents. So, accidents by "regular" climates conditions are unusual today.

Agreed. Which suggests we are dealing with some rather "irregular" climate conditions with the Airasia crash. Then again, the climate has become increasing irregular all over the world in recent years.

 

[Horseofadifferentcolor]

Here is a story of another plane flying out of Texas and disappeared off of radar before crashing.

_http://kxan.com/2015/01/04/2-dead-after-flight-from-georgetown-crashes-in-n-m/

VAUGHN, N.M. (KXAN/AP) — Two people flying from Georgetown, Texas, to Durango, Colo., died in a plane crash in New Mexico, according to the National Transportation Safety Board. NBC affiliate KOB-TV reports the Piper PA-28 aircraft took off from Georgetown on Dec. 29. It was headed to Durango but disappeared from air traffic control radar that day. Civil Air Patrol pilots helped ground crews with New Mexico Search and Rescue locate the wreckage between Vaughn and Corona, N.M., on Dec. 31.

Officials have not released the identities of the victims. NTSB investigators remained on scene Friday and Saturday. They have not released the cause of the crash.

 

[lucasraffablog]

What I mean is that the aviation industry is being perfected year after year. There are more and more flights and less accidents. So, accidents by "regular" climates conditions are unusual today.

Agreed. Which suggests we are dealing with some rather "irregular" climate conditions with the Airasia crash. Then again, the climate has become increasing irregular all over the world in recent years.

Exactly.

 

[NevadaCat]

Weather outside is frightful. I'm interested in the engine bang/power cut on the runway. I think the bribe angle for overlooking malfunctions is a smart assessment. I am still boggled by the disappearance of 20 people from the initial Malaysia Air flight that worked for Freescale Semiconductor in Texas developing radar blocking aeronautical tech. S'weird.

 

[lilies]

AirAsia jet tail found in Java Sea, first images released (PHOTO)
_http://rt.com/news/220419-airasia-tail-found-indonesia/

They had definitely time up to this point to plant any wreckage if they wanted to.

 

[cubbie]

It seems the black box of QZ8501 has just been found:
_http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015/01/11/AirAsia-Black-box-found/

 

[angelburst29]

What I mean is that the aviation industry is being perfected year after year. There are more and more flights and less accidents. So, accidents by "regular" climates conditions are unusual today.

Agreed. Which suggests we are dealing with some rather "irregular" climate conditions with the Airasia crash. Then again, the climate has become increasing irregular all over the world in recent years.

Jet stream blasts BA plane across Atlantic in record time
_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11337617/Jet-stream-blasts-BA-plane-across-Atlantic-in-record-time.html

Sat. Jan. 10, 2015 Concorde may have been retired but a British Airways passenger jet approached supersonic speed this week as it rode a surging jet stream from New York to London.

The Boeing 777-200 jet reached a ground speed of 745mph as it rode winds of more than 200mph across the Atlantic. At ground level, the speed of sound is 761mph.

The happy result was a flight time of just five hours and 16 minutes for BA114, which arrived an hour and half before schedule, according to the tracking website, FlightAware.

Dozens of other flights also benefited from the jet stream’s winter surge, but those same winds have also triggered severe storms across Britain.

Pilots have long used jet streams - which flow across the globe from west to east - to cut journey times and save fuel.

Although airlines advertise the route at seven hours, it is not uncommon for flights to save an hour in the air, said Alastair Rosenschein, a former British Airways pilot who flew 747s between London and New York.

Wednesday’s weather charts show the jet stream was running at 220 knots (250mph) and was unusually wide, he added, making it easier for pilots and their passengers to benefit.

They are generally found between 23,000ft and 39,000ft - perfect altitudes for cruising airliners - and are caused by a combination of the earth’s rotation and heat from the sun.

But while it may help trans-Atlantic passengers arriving from New York, pilots have to plot routes that avoid the high winds when they fly west.

 

[lilies]

Indonesia's search & rescue: AirAsia jet likely exploded before impact

So the plane flew apart. The passenger, pilot and probably the cargo area AKA fuselage - basically a light metal tube - is compressed and sealed with thick metal at the tail and at the nose. That must have been quite a force taking it apart:
_http://rt.com/news/221731-airasia-crash-explosion-indonesia/

 

[Nienna]

Jet stream blasts BA plane across Atlantic in record time
_http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11337617/Jet-stream-blasts-BA-plane-across-Atlantic-in-record-time.html

This was already posted on SOTT:

http://www.sott.net/article/291188-250mph-jet-stream-blasts-plane-across-the-Atlantic-in-record-time

 

[Mr.Cyan]

Latest update on the QZ 8501 crash :

_http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/airasia-qz8501-s-alarms/1605732.html

From the black box data the plane climbed "abnormally" fast before stalling, and plunging downwards into the sea. According to the recordings, the pilot and co-pilot voices were drowned out by the various plane alarms (including the stalling alarm) that were going off in the background...

Further:

_http://rakyattimes.com/index.php/news/2436-five-bodies-found-strapped-to-seats-near-qz8501-fuselage

5 bodies still strapped to their seats found by Indonesian rescue divers - indicating that the descent & crash after stalling was very fast as well...

This is inline with what the C's mentioned happened to the plane.