Alien Viruses by Robert Wood with Nick Redfern

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Just finished reading this one, which Richard Dolan published earlier this year. Bob Wood is part of the father-and-son team devoted to analyzing the purported "MJ-12" documents that have been fed to UFO researchers since the early '80s. (See _http://www.majesticdocuments.com/sources.php) These started with the infamous documents given to William Moore and Jamie Shandera (as well as Tim Good), followed by a whole stack of docs given to Timothy Cooper from 1992-1999. This book gives a good overview to that material, while focusing on one overarching topic of interest: biowarfare and the threat of a potentially species-killing 'alien' or engineered virus. Wood and his ghost-writer Nick Redfern tackle the subject from all angles: references in the MJ-12 documents, testimony from military and intelligence sources, and the mainstream historical and scientific record. What crops up over and over again are links between alleged MJ-12-connected individuals, research into biological warfare, astrobiology, and connections to alleged UFO crash/recoveries (several reports and documents mention deaths connected with these recovery operations). In the first chapters, Wood and Redfern discuss the 'viruses from space' angle, but what's interesting is the amount of interest and research that seems to have been displayed by the intel communities. The last chapter focuses on the deaths of all those microbiologists in the early 2000s, and might suggest another angle in addition to the ethnic-specific weapons one: 'alien' viruses (whether from real 'aliens' or comets). Biowarfare research seems somehow inextricably tied with the whole UFO problem.

For fun, here are some relevant bits from the Cs:

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Q: (L) Did a space craft of the Lizzies piloted by the Grays crash in Roswell?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) What caused the crash?
A: Ionization.
Q: (L) Were the bodies and the craft recovered by the United States Government?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Are the Majestic 12 documents...
A: Semi-factual. {That's the overall conclusion of Wood and Redfern, but they'd probably lean more towards factual than not. Another question is what documents exactly are being referred to above -- just the Moore/Shandera ones, or Cooper's?}
Q: (L) Were they dummied up?
A: Near. {One of Cooper's sources admitted to 'constructing' the documents (i.e., copying the originals, but with certain changes) ostensibly to avoid legal repercussions on Cooper's part. The implication is that certain parts are true, while others aren't.}
Q: (L) Who did this and why?
A: To leak information and disinformation. Many were involved. ONI and CIA.

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Q: (L) Okay, now, I have a list of names, and I want a yes or no as to whether these individuals were, because I believe most of them are deceased right now, this is just a little verification on some other things for the general public, were these individuals involved in the cover-up of the UFO activity and phenomenon in the U.S.?: Roscoe Hillenkoetter (Yes) Dr Vannevar Bush (Yes) Secretary James Forrestal (yes) General Nathan Twining (Yes) General Hoyt F. Vandenberg (Yes) Dr. Detlev Bronk (Yes) Jerome Hudson (Yes) Mr. Sydney Sauers (Yes) Donald Menzel (Yes) Robert Montague (Yes) Dr. Lloyd B. Berger (Yes) {Bush, Vandengerg, and Bronk are listed in the "1st Annual Report" document as being in a "special panel" tied to MJ-12. One document is a directive from Eisenhower to Twining to go to White Sands and 'appraise' the UFOs being kept there. His flight log shows that he did make a flight on the day in question. Of course, numerous references to Bush and Menzel.}
Q: Who is in MJ12 now?
A: Will not reveal as you would be terminated if this information were to be let out, so forget it now!
Q: Does MJ12 still exist?
A: In different form. {According to one of Cooper's sources, MJ-12 ceased to exist as such in 1969, afterwards it essentially became "a private concern financed by big money and big science."}
Q: I would like to know who sent the MJ 12 documents to Jamie Shandera? Who sent those documents to him?
A: Bill Cooper.
Q: (T) Who sent them to Cooper?
A: He discovered them in records review.
Q: (L) He is the one who discovered the MJ 12 documents? Does he claim he sent them? (T) Yes. (L) How did you know that and I didn't know that? (T) I read the Cooper book, the early Cooper papers.
A: Cooper was unintended security leak, then "turncoat."
Q: (T) Okay, so he found all this out when he was working for the government...
A: Yes.
Q: ...Which is how he got them out of the records?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Well Okay, while we are on the subject... I don't want the names of those involved with MJ12, the question is, if you gave us the names, how many of those people would we know? Not personally, but how many would we know? How many would we have heard of?
A: One or two maybe.
Q: (T) Which is what I figured. Just like back in the 40's you wouldn't have known who these people were. Hillencotter and Forrestal, maybe, because they were WWII people, their names were in the paper. Unless you were into sciences, you wouldn't know who these people were. {Thankfully, Wood and Redfern have done a lot of digging into some of the more obscure names, and lo and behold, may of them were involved in biowarfare.} (L) How many alien craft, actual alien craft, are in the hands of the government or this consortium?
A: 36 {While they don't give a number, this seems about right based on the number of incidents discussed in the book.}

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Q: (L) OK, the Matrix Material says that Henry Kissinger is the current head of MJ12. Is this correct?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is he just a red herring, so to speak?
A: Yes. MJ12 is no longer MJ12. {Matches with information above.}
Q: (L) What is MJ12 now known as?
A: Institute of Higher Learning.

While I don't necessarily agree with all of the authors' conclusions (e.g., the overall authenticity of the documents, Redfern's ideas on Roswell, or the idea that cattle mutilations are essentially biowarfare experiments), most conclusions are stated more as tentative working hypotheses than as pet theories. The main virtue of the book, in my opinion, is the sheer collection of data: names, places, connections. Whether the real danger is from space-borne pathogens (e.g., brought to earth via comets or asteroids), so-called alien viruses found on the alleged bodies of UFO inhabitants, or engineered biowarfare agents (the source of which may or may not have something to do with the other options), the intel community has shown keen interest in it it since at least World War II.
 
Thanks for the review, Approaching Infinity. Here is a link to the interview with the authors and "Skinwalker's" George Knapp.
_http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/08/18
 
Keit said:
Thanks for the review, Approaching Infinity. Here is a link to the interview with the authors and "Skinwalker's" George Knapp.
_http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2013/08/18

Just a note that it is a 4 parts show, but the first part is not the actual interview, but the host taking calls, while some of them are really loony :shock: One of the callers reported strange weather phenomena, so can't say that the time was entirely wasted. Also, I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but the host didn't make it easy for the authors regarding the issue of documents' authenticity. But they did mention several interesting things, like the red rain in India and the Black Death connection, though there is a feeling that the interview could be better. I am half through it, so perhaps it will improve.
 
Keit said:
Also, I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but the host didn't make it easy for the authors regarding the issue of documents' authenticity.

They've got a chapter in the book on this, and the Woods have a bunch of papers on their website. Haven't read them yet. No matter how you look at it, the whole issue seems like a mind-job, and I think that was probably the intention all along. Wood argues against the documents being part of a psywar objective (i.e., propaganda against foreign nations), but kind of evades the issue of them being directed at the UFO field itself. But if we look at what kind of response the documents have produced, we might be able to discern the intent. Basically, the documents are a huge controversy WITHIN ufology. Most think they are total hoaxes. And even some sources have admitted the documents aren't original, therefore their 'authenticity' is automatically brought into question. But I think the Woods make an important point: even if the documents aren't originals, and even if they have been peppered with anachronisms and even some disinfo, that doesn't necessarily mean they are 'hoaxes'. It could be as the source presented it: original, real documents that have been altered. Unfortunately, that makes it difficult to separate out the truth from the lies. Despite inconsistencies, there are also many consistencies, and obscure details that have been confirmed after lots of research. If there really was an "MJ-12" group, and multiple crash/recoveries (as was being exposed in the years before the first documents were 'leaked'), the documents seem to have been a good way of discrediting the idea, since they basically confirm the overall picture. But because of the authentication issues, researchers are hesitant to accept those ideas as true. It's a jungle, but fascinating!

Added: BTW, here's the interview on youtube for those without C2C subscriptions: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Os_vHVn_A
 
Redferns: Body snatches in the desert left me puzzled. Much of his previous work explored the paranormal and here I read about the infamous crash and his conclusions that it wasnt ET at all. Felt sorry for the author and felt he`d given up and had decided to make money his sole intention. Long before this book came out Nick usually had a pic of himself in UFO mags - often promoting his latest work.

I feel hes another Whitley S.
 
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