Amateur radio (HAM)
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This is ranging toward the EMF Exposure topic but I thought to add from: http://www.powerwatch.org.uk/news/2015-04-28-science-update.asp,
Note that the above study found aggravated effects of the square wave modulated MF indicating that bandwidth of the signal is a bio-active measure of the harm.
Note that the above study found aggravated effects of the square wave modulated MF indicating that bandwidth of the signal is a bio-active measure of the harm.
LQB said:
Interesting. I remember having read something about digital modulation of the carrier signal (as is the case with GSM, wifi etc.) having a harmful effect on its own, apart from just the RF energy, which kind of makes sense since digital modulation is done modulating the carrier signal at all kinds of frequencies (such as sending too different tones for 1's and 0's at a very fast rate), but unfortunately have forgotten the source. Maybe the shapes of the waveforms are indeed important when it comes to health effects of radiation?
In fact, coming back to ham radio and whether it has negative health effects - in addition to what LQB said earlier in this thread, I may add a couple of reasons why I think ham radio could be far less damaging than GSM, 3G, wifi etc.:
- Ham radio is about simplex communication, which means only one station sends (people cannot talk at the same time). So when you don't send, you're not exposed to your transmitter's radiation. GSM/3G/wifi devices, however, constantly transmit and receive (more or less). In the case of Wifi, you are subjected to radiation both from your device and the router!
- GSM/Wifi use very high frequencies, which are said to cause more harm than lower frequencies (in the RF spectrum). Plus, as I said earlier, digital modulation may have a negative effect on it's own. Ham radio is mostly about analog modulation (FM/SSB).
- Even in digital communication, ham radio uses very narrow channels (as opposed for example to wifi), which possibly also means less harm.
- Usually, hams use external antennas, which helps keeping the RF away from you.
So while I think it's important to be careful with ham radio gear, I don't think there will come a lot of harm from the usual ham radio applications. Personally, I would avoid high power levels, especially at higher frequencies, and if I have to use them, I would make sure I have an external antenna which is far away. In terms of preparedness, it's good practice anyway to work with low power levels I think, since it makes a huge difference in terms of battery life/solar arrangements etc. whether you use 5W or 100W.
sitting
Dagobah Resident
luc said:
Hi Luc,
Thank you for your comments.
They confirm what I suspected. No Apple watch for me. My daughter gave me an iPhone but it sits in my draw. I actually view these devices as adversaries--intelligent thingies that's out to harm me. I'm not kidding.
The earbuds are strictly for listening to recorded material--on my nano or iPod touch. With the touch wifi always off. I am wary of these gadgets in general.
angelburst29
The Living Force
I'm glad to see this Post and that there are active Forum members interested in HAM Radio.
I hope this entry won't be considered noise but I think your endeavors will be rewarded in the near future.
Back in February, from the 10th to the 25th, there were major Telephone, Internet outages in Kentucky, Northern Nevada, California, Texas, Missouri, Florida and Arizona. Whatever the cause sited for disruption, weather related or otherwise, these areas happen to fall within the recently announced JADE HELM exercises which are to begin July 15 - Sept. 15, 2015. Along with Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Texas and Utah, DHS has approached other States to be part of the exercise. Kentucky and Georgia, naming two. Not sure about Missouri, if it will also be included.
On the "Counter JADE HELM" website, in the comments section, there was a brief discussion on communications which I listed below. They have also set up a private site, actively working together in groups in each State, to provide information and work towards confirmations. At the private site, several members (some ex-military) are setting up Ham Radios for communications. I'm not invested in the private site - so not privy to their HAM Radio set up. There main activities are to observe and relay information, document and confirm reports. They are not a Militia. Only concerned Citizens.
***(Kentucky) Copper Thieves Knock Out Telephone, Internet Service to Thousands
http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/Copper-Thieves-Knock-Out-Telephone-Internet-Service-to-Thousands-291451431.html
Feb. 10, 2015 - JOHNSON COUNTY, Ky. (WSAZ) -- Officials with Foothills Broadband say the company is dealing with yet another service outage after copper thieves hit their communication and fiber optic lines.
John Blair is the company's engineering construction coordinator. He says Monday night, thieves cut communication and fiber optic lines, which led to telephone, cell phone and Internet outages for thousands of customers.
***(Northern Nevada and California) Widespread internet power outage affects four counties
http://www.mynews4.com/mostpopular/story/Widespread-internet-power-outage-affects-four/47puzk3wTUGaRjmsgjd9ng.cspx
Feb. 22, 2015 - NEVADA (MyNews4.com & KRNV) – According to Frontier, an internet power outage started at 5:25 a.m. Saturday and is affecting customers in four counties in northern Nevada and California.
Frontier National Region employee Karen Miller says customers in Douglas, Alpine, Mono and Lyon county are experiencing the outage. She says at this time, technicians are working with other telephone carriers in those areas to find what caused the outage and to fix the problem.
***(Texas) Weather-Related Outages Leave Thousands Without Power
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Weather-Related-Outages-Leave-Thousands-Without-Power-293681991.html
(February 23, 2015) Weather-related outages left as many as 2,500 homes and businesses without power Monday morning, primarily in Killeen, Temple, Harker Heights and Belton.
The outages are the result of wind that’s causing problems with conductors, Oncor area manager Carl Green said.
Seton Medical Center in Harker Heights reported outages and was on generator power at around mid-morning Monday.
Also Monday, the Belton ISD reported on its Facebook page that campuses were without Internet and phone services because of a Time Warner cable outage
***(St. Louis, Missouri) Charter Internet outage complaints thickens
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20150224/charter-internet-outage-complaints-thickens-feb-23/
Feb. 23, 2015 - Charter Communications is not behaving at all well today according to its users, the service that supplies home phone, TV and internet services in about 25 states in America is seeing a lot of complaints in Twitter at the moment because of an Internet outage.
Customers are taking to twitter to vent their dismay about an Internet outage, they are not happy that they cannot gain access to its Internet service, it just seems to be repeated issues week after week. Nothing seems to get down about the service one tweeter said.
St. Louis seems to be one of the main problematic locations with the Charter Internet outage, are you having outage issues in this area?
Twitter complaints are still coming in right now, one users said, “@charter, I guess I will have to keep trying your horrible internet service,” others have said why hasn’t Charter put any information on its Twitter account about the outage.
***(Florida) Miami Beach residents experience massive cable, Internet outage
http://www.wsvn.com/story/27742924/miami-beach-residents-experience-massive-cable-internet-outage
Feb. 25, 2015 - MIAMI BEACH, Fla. (WSVN) -- A slew of Atlantic Broadband customers in Miami Beach lost cable and Internet services Thursday morning after an accident involving an electrical pole.
According to Miami Beach Police, the accident occurred just after 1 a.m., Thursday, when a car struck the pole along 7100 Indian Creek Drive. "We came out and saw the poles down, and we also saw some cords and a lot of electricity and there was a lot of firefighters and police officers and stuff like that," said one woman on the beach.
The accident triggered a massive outage, leaving customers without any cable or Internet services throughout the night and into the morning.
***(Arizona) Police probe outage that cut Internet, phones in Arizona
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/26/poliice-probe-arizona-outage/24043367/
Feb. 25, 2015 - PHOENIX - Phoenix police are investigating an act of vandalism that left many in northern Arizona without Internet access for much of Wednesday, authorities said.
A Centurylink fiber-optic line had been "deliberately cut" in New River north of Phoenix around noon, according to police and a Centurylink spokesman.
Counter JADE HELM
_https://www.facebook.com/events/936947686336611/
Comment section:
(Bill Silver Eagle) Additional Information: Recently, between the FCC and DHS have changed local, county and state radio communications from analog systems to digital systems. The problem is Digital Systems require $400.00 radio scanners to monitor.
(Brett Backman III) We should get a zello up as well for comms. One channel for nationwide, and one for each state. We can add more channels as needed after that on city/county levels.
(Ria Hoi) ...because Zello is such a secure app. NOT.
psst: if you want a GOOD chat app, use Wickr
(Ria Hoi) _https://www.wickr.com/privacy-policy/
(Ria Hoi) No channels or chat room; just a 1-on-1 chat. It also warns you if someone screenshots a message.
(Bill Silver Eagle) This link will help with Aircraft Identification ............ _http://www.americanspecialops.com/aircraft/
(Eric C Rehn) I'm going out on a limb here, so to speak, but I have slept on this idea for a few nights now, and it just won’t go away. Alright... So, I looked up the definitions of “jade” and “helm”, and here’s what I found relevant to the topic:
Definition of JADE as a transitive verb
1. (A) to wear out by overwork or abuse – (B) to tire or dull through repetition or excess
2. Obsolete: to make ridiculous
...
Definition of HELM as a noun
1. (A) a lever or wheel controlling the rudder of a ship for steering; broadly: the entire apparatus for steering a ship – (B) position of the helm with respect to the amidships position <turn the helm hard>
2. A position of control: head <a new dean is at the helm of the medical school>
My analysis? Jade Helm 15 means: The U.S. Government means to use Jade Helm 15, through their position of control, as method of attempting to wear out the Patriot movement by overwork or abuse, and to attempt to tire or dull through repetition or excess. If none of that works, they try to make the entire movement look obsolete and ridiculous. (The numbers “1" and "5” just denote the year, 2015.)
_http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jade
_http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/helm
(Wayne Foy) Georgia has also been confirmed as an area of operation. Have heard whispers from local Leo's, nothing more at this point.
(Wayne Foy) Confirmation via several sources, Airborne headquartered in Benning will be a part, air wing from Dobbins, possible involved Also clearance has been confirmed for DHS via Cherokee County So, as well as a couple department officers in Fulton, Forsyth, Dekalb. They ARE coming.
(Bill Silver Eagle) Georgia ARNG has helo's at Dobbins Joint Resrve Base, Marrietta, 3 companies C, D, E, of 171st Aviation, as well as UH-1's with 148th Medical; Winder Airport, and then at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah.
There has been much posted and said about Military Activities, Operations and Exercises taking place prior to July 15, 2015 that are believed to be associated with Jade Helm 15. This Event is to share verifiable (photos and video) of the aforementioned Activities, Operations and Exercises.
_https://www.facebook.com/events/412220775624422/
I hope this entry won't be considered noise but I think your endeavors will be rewarded in the near future.
Back in February, from the 10th to the 25th, there were major Telephone, Internet outages in Kentucky, Northern Nevada, California, Texas, Missouri, Florida and Arizona. Whatever the cause sited for disruption, weather related or otherwise, these areas happen to fall within the recently announced JADE HELM exercises which are to begin July 15 - Sept. 15, 2015. Along with Arizona, California, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Texas and Utah, DHS has approached other States to be part of the exercise. Kentucky and Georgia, naming two. Not sure about Missouri, if it will also be included.
On the "Counter JADE HELM" website, in the comments section, there was a brief discussion on communications which I listed below. They have also set up a private site, actively working together in groups in each State, to provide information and work towards confirmations. At the private site, several members (some ex-military) are setting up Ham Radios for communications. I'm not invested in the private site - so not privy to their HAM Radio set up. There main activities are to observe and relay information, document and confirm reports. They are not a Militia. Only concerned Citizens.
***(Kentucky) Copper Thieves Knock Out Telephone, Internet Service to Thousands
http://www.wsaz.com/home/headlines/Copper-Thieves-Knock-Out-Telephone-Internet-Service-to-Thousands-291451431.html
Feb. 10, 2015 - JOHNSON COUNTY, Ky. (WSAZ) -- Officials with Foothills Broadband say the company is dealing with yet another service outage after copper thieves hit their communication and fiber optic lines.
John Blair is the company's engineering construction coordinator. He says Monday night, thieves cut communication and fiber optic lines, which led to telephone, cell phone and Internet outages for thousands of customers.
***(Northern Nevada and California) Widespread internet power outage affects four counties
http://www.mynews4.com/mostpopular/story/Widespread-internet-power-outage-affects-four/47puzk3wTUGaRjmsgjd9ng.cspx
Feb. 22, 2015 - NEVADA (MyNews4.com & KRNV) – According to Frontier, an internet power outage started at 5:25 a.m. Saturday and is affecting customers in four counties in northern Nevada and California.
Frontier National Region employee Karen Miller says customers in Douglas, Alpine, Mono and Lyon county are experiencing the outage. She says at this time, technicians are working with other telephone carriers in those areas to find what caused the outage and to fix the problem.
***(Texas) Weather-Related Outages Leave Thousands Without Power
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Weather-Related-Outages-Leave-Thousands-Without-Power-293681991.html
(February 23, 2015) Weather-related outages left as many as 2,500 homes and businesses without power Monday morning, primarily in Killeen, Temple, Harker Heights and Belton.
The outages are the result of wind that’s causing problems with conductors, Oncor area manager Carl Green said.
Seton Medical Center in Harker Heights reported outages and was on generator power at around mid-morning Monday.
Also Monday, the Belton ISD reported on its Facebook page that campuses were without Internet and phone services because of a Time Warner cable outage
***(St. Louis, Missouri) Charter Internet outage complaints thickens
http://www.onlinesocialmedia.net/20150224/charter-internet-outage-complaints-thickens-feb-23/
Feb. 23, 2015 - Charter Communications is not behaving at all well today according to its users, the service that supplies home phone, TV and internet services in about 25 states in America is seeing a lot of complaints in Twitter at the moment because of an Internet outage.
Customers are taking to twitter to vent their dismay about an Internet outage, they are not happy that they cannot gain access to its Internet service, it just seems to be repeated issues week after week. Nothing seems to get down about the service one tweeter said.
St. Louis seems to be one of the main problematic locations with the Charter Internet outage, are you having outage issues in this area?
Twitter complaints are still coming in right now, one users said, “@charter, I guess I will have to keep trying your horrible internet service,” others have said why hasn’t Charter put any information on its Twitter account about the outage.
***(Florida) Miami Beach residents experience massive cable, Internet outage
http://www.wsvn.com/story/27742924/miami-beach-residents-experience-massive-cable-internet-outage
Feb. 25, 2015 - MIAMI BEACH, Fla. (WSVN) -- A slew of Atlantic Broadband customers in Miami Beach lost cable and Internet services Thursday morning after an accident involving an electrical pole.
According to Miami Beach Police, the accident occurred just after 1 a.m., Thursday, when a car struck the pole along 7100 Indian Creek Drive. "We came out and saw the poles down, and we also saw some cords and a lot of electricity and there was a lot of firefighters and police officers and stuff like that," said one woman on the beach.
The accident triggered a massive outage, leaving customers without any cable or Internet services throughout the night and into the morning.
***(Arizona) Police probe outage that cut Internet, phones in Arizona
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/02/26/poliice-probe-arizona-outage/24043367/
Feb. 25, 2015 - PHOENIX - Phoenix police are investigating an act of vandalism that left many in northern Arizona without Internet access for much of Wednesday, authorities said.
A Centurylink fiber-optic line had been "deliberately cut" in New River north of Phoenix around noon, according to police and a Centurylink spokesman.
Counter JADE HELM
_https://www.facebook.com/events/936947686336611/
Comment section:
(Bill Silver Eagle) Additional Information: Recently, between the FCC and DHS have changed local, county and state radio communications from analog systems to digital systems. The problem is Digital Systems require $400.00 radio scanners to monitor.
(Brett Backman III) We should get a zello up as well for comms. One channel for nationwide, and one for each state. We can add more channels as needed after that on city/county levels.
(Ria Hoi) ...because Zello is such a secure app. NOT.
psst: if you want a GOOD chat app, use Wickr
(Ria Hoi) _https://www.wickr.com/privacy-policy/
(Ria Hoi) No channels or chat room; just a 1-on-1 chat. It also warns you if someone screenshots a message.
(Bill Silver Eagle) This link will help with Aircraft Identification ............ _http://www.americanspecialops.com/aircraft/
(Eric C Rehn) I'm going out on a limb here, so to speak, but I have slept on this idea for a few nights now, and it just won’t go away. Alright... So, I looked up the definitions of “jade” and “helm”, and here’s what I found relevant to the topic:
Definition of JADE as a transitive verb
1. (A) to wear out by overwork or abuse – (B) to tire or dull through repetition or excess
2. Obsolete: to make ridiculous
...
Definition of HELM as a noun
1. (A) a lever or wheel controlling the rudder of a ship for steering; broadly: the entire apparatus for steering a ship – (B) position of the helm with respect to the amidships position <turn the helm hard>
2. A position of control: head <a new dean is at the helm of the medical school>
My analysis? Jade Helm 15 means: The U.S. Government means to use Jade Helm 15, through their position of control, as method of attempting to wear out the Patriot movement by overwork or abuse, and to attempt to tire or dull through repetition or excess. If none of that works, they try to make the entire movement look obsolete and ridiculous. (The numbers “1" and "5” just denote the year, 2015.)
_http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jade
_http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/helm
(Wayne Foy) Georgia has also been confirmed as an area of operation. Have heard whispers from local Leo's, nothing more at this point.
(Wayne Foy) Confirmation via several sources, Airborne headquartered in Benning will be a part, air wing from Dobbins, possible involved Also clearance has been confirmed for DHS via Cherokee County So, as well as a couple department officers in Fulton, Forsyth, Dekalb. They ARE coming.
(Bill Silver Eagle) Georgia ARNG has helo's at Dobbins Joint Resrve Base, Marrietta, 3 companies C, D, E, of 171st Aviation, as well as UH-1's with 148th Medical; Winder Airport, and then at Hunter Army Airfield in Savannah.
There has been much posted and said about Military Activities, Operations and Exercises taking place prior to July 15, 2015 that are believed to be associated with Jade Helm 15. This Event is to share verifiable (photos and video) of the aforementioned Activities, Operations and Exercises.
_https://www.facebook.com/events/412220775624422/
luc said:
Yes, I agree luc, and thanks for moving the thread back on-topic.
AM/FM analog modulation (common in HAM) do not result in chopping up (discontinuity) in the RF carrier - digital signals rely on pulsing or discontinuous changes in in the carrier RF in order to code high data rates, thus greater bandwidth. In fact their spectra (digital signals) more resemble pulsed radar signals.
I recently read an article (can't find it anymore) that claimed, that using headphones/ earbuds for phoning could actually be worse than using the phone directly. Even though the phone is farther away, the headphones may conduct the RF and concentrate them at the tip of the headphones. As mentioned, only airtubes (like the ones used formerly in aircraft entertainment systems) would somewhat mitigate this effect.
nicklebleu said:
I'd be curious to see those studies. It would be disappointing if true. I don't like holding up a cellphone to my ear when using it, so I primarily use earbuds. I don't talk on the phone that much, but it does make me wonder whether earbuds do indeed conduct RF like you say they do.
Heimdallr said:
Well, I have no studies at hand, but it is a known fact among radio tinkerers that anything electrically connected to a radio can act like an antenna. So I guess this could be the case with earbuds as well. Because of this, as I said, when listening to something on my iPhone, I put it in flight mode (if it's not already :)).
On a practical level, unless one is very sensitive, I think the best way forward is to strictly minimize cell phone usage - I don't use earbuds, but keep it short when I have to talk on the cell phone, for longer talks I use the land line whenever possible. Another idea would be to use an external antenna for the phone in the car or even at home, but I'm not sure what the options are for this in today's world where there's a cell phone tower every 100 meters and the cell phone lobby has succeeded so well with its propaganda that we shouldn't worry at all...
sitting
Dagobah Resident
luc said:
I remember J McCanney saying one time that it WAS an issue. He's competent on such matters ... I think.
His suggestion was to wrap a thin copper wire--coiling around the earbud cable. Maybe 10 turns or so. Said this would effectively dissipate any such radiation. For a long time I did just that. Than abandoned the practice.
I think I'll go and re-wrap that thin copper wire once more. I wear those earbuds a lot.
LQB said:
Thanks for explaining LQB, this is how I remember it as well, though I was not sure. Seen in this light, I guess the biggest/most evil part of the "frequency fence" having to do with consumer technology is digital broadband communication, i.e. Wifi and 3G. Makes you wonder why especially these two were pushed so hard by the PTB in the last years. I mean, people nowadays are using What's app all the time, which requires a permanent internet connection (broadband), where most of text communication could also be done with simple SMS, requiring only GSM and a much narrower bandwith. SMS is really a lot more efficient technically in many ways...
Sometimes I wonder what our communication landscape would look like if it had been developed by amateur radio operators in the ham spirit, striving for efficiency, low-cost solutions and simplicity in a kind of open-source approach instead of greedy, Wallstreet-backed, Scientist-bribing mega-corporations... Just wondering.
nicklebleu said:
If the air tubes are metalized then, yes, you could easily couple radiation from the cell phone antenna to the tube - but this will not happen if the tube has no metal. In this case the tube would act as another antenna radiator (if metalized). The tube itself is so small that it cannot support any propagation waveguide modes at the cell RF (even if metalized).
If there is significant interaction between the airtube and the cell antenna, it should be easily detected by measuring the cell antenna radiation pattern with and without the airtube. But I've seen no measured data.
sitting said:
Here's some links for you:
_http://educate-yourself.org/cn/microwavedangersindex.shtml
_http://educate-yourself.org/cn/wificomimngplague27jun14.shtml
Another way of suppressing high frequency pulsing would be to put ferrules on the ear plug cabling, they act in the same way as coils.
You see ferrules on the cable that connects your computer monitor to the computer. They are there to suppress noise interference.
