Another daytime fireball over Phoenix?

[1984]

I grabbed these pictures with my phone on 9/4/13 over central Phoenix - nothing was reported in the news that I could find, which is kind of odd since this was definitely something that could be seen by a lot of folks as it was just as sun rise started. East is the direction many commuters are driving into as they commute to work so it should have been seen by someone besides just me. :)

It's hard to see but there was no trail above or below what you can see, I was trying to get as much of the trail as possible but it was basically clear on each end.

 

[shijing]

Besides the generally curvy trajectory (that would have to be a pretty drunk pilot!), one part that I find interesting about this is the little 'snag' that seems to occur in the trail about halfway down.

 

[LQB]

Looks like the real thing to me - and looks like a pretty low elevation angle. It also looks like the trail is above some clouds and under others.

 

[SeekinTruth]

Thanks for sharing these photos, 1984. It does look like the real thing to me too.

 

[mimimari]

I agree that this does look like the trail left by a fireball, especially since it was clear on each end.

 

[WIN 52]

Besides the generally curvy trajectory (that would have to be a pretty drunk pilot!), one part that I find interesting about this is the little 'snag' that seems to occur in the trail about halfway down.

When you skip rocks on water, the first skip is always the most dramatic.

Nice pic's, thanks for sharing.

 

[doublea1535]

To me it just looks like a chemtrail, subjected to cross-wind in the atmosphere.

 

[SeekinTruth]

To me it just looks like a chemtrail, subjected to cross-wind in the atmosphere.

You mean a contrail?

 

[doublea1535]

To me it just looks like a chemtrail, subjected to cross-wind in the atmosphere.

You mean a contrail?

I mean chemical junk being dumped into the atmosphere, coming out of planes. That doesn't look like a contrail to me.

 

[WIN 52]

To me it just looks like a chemtrail, subjected to cross-wind in the atmosphere.

You mean a contrail?

I mean chemical junk being dumped into the atmosphere, coming out of planes. That doesn't look like a contrail to me.

From what I can make out is that those chemical dumps look more like the jet blew an engine. Then after a bit the fog stops and no trail.

These pictures are a more defined trail. I have seen orange fireballs skipping across the night sky that resemble this trail at high altitude. I saw 3 in some sort of cluster, skipping merrily along, looking like they grazed us, in 2006 while driving at night.

 

[doublea1535]

These pictures are a more defined trail. I have seen orange fireballs skipping across the night sky that resemble this trail at high altitude. I saw 3 in some sort of cluster, skipping merrily along, looking like they grazed us, in 2006 while driving at night.

I've never seen the trail left behind a fireball before. I asked my wife who has, I just showed her the pictures and asked her what she thought they looked like and she agrees they look like the trail following a comet/meteor.

From what I can make out is that those chemical dumps look more like the jet blew an engine. Then after a bit the fog stops and no trail.

Years ago I spent a lot of time watching them, and quite a few of them would dump across the entire visible skyline. Some would start/stop halfway, some would leave dashed lines across the sky. The pattern really varied. The big thing I took away from it was planes that appeared to be at the same altitude would exhibit different behavior. Some would dump a lot, yet sporadically, some not at all. Granted it's pretty hard to tell the altitude of a plane from the ground using just your eyeballs. I've seen what you are talking about though, a "squirt" and then it stops.

 

[Resistense]

I was looking east towards the sunrise this morning around 6:35am, from Scottsdale Arizona, and witnessed what I think was a meteor coming into the atmosphere just a bit north of where the sun was rising. Seemed like it was quite a good distance away but it was a bright falling point of light with a tail, moving straight toward the horizon and visible even with bright sunlight behind it.

 

[dugdeep]

To me it just looks like a chemtrail, subjected to cross-wind in the atmosphere.

You mean a contrail?

I mean chemical junk being dumped into the atmosphere, coming out of planes. That doesn't look like a contrail to me.

ignis.intimus, you might want to read Laura's article Chemtrails, Contrails, Strange Skies for a different perspective on the whole chemtrail theory.

 

[doublea1535]

ignis.intimus, you might want to read Laura's article Chemtrails, Contrails, Strange Skies for a different perspective on the whole chemtrail theory.

I read it when it was published and read it again just now. I found it very informative, but still have a hard time believing that all of the witnessed contrails are really that, and there is not a chemical ingredient coming directly from some planes - that either did not in the past, or did not at the levels they do now. There are a relatively small number of refineries in the US, in the hands of an even smaller amount of companies. It doesn't seem that incredible to me that they could put additives in during or post-production that would then affect fleets of aircraft. They appear to add ethanol to gasoline pretty easily. To what end they would do that, I'm not sure. Either concealment of celestial activity (UFO or meteor/comet) or some sort of HAARP reflector make the most sense to me. The 'changing atmosphere' explanation also doesn't explain all of the witnessed weird phenomenon, as noted in that article.

 

[dugdeep]

ignis.intimus, you might want to read Laura's article Chemtrails, Contrails, Strange Skies for a different perspective on the whole chemtrail theory.

I read it when it was published and read it again just now. I found it very informative, but still have a hard time believing that all of the witnessed contrails are really that, and there is not a chemical ingredient coming directly from some planes - that either did not in the past, or did not at the levels they do now. There are a relatively small number of refineries in the US, in the hands of an even smaller amount of companies. It doesn't seem that incredible to me that they could put additives in during or post-production that would then affect fleets of aircraft. They appear to add ethanol to gasoline pretty easily. To what end they would do that, I'm not sure. Either concealment of celestial activity (UFO or meteor/comet) or some sort of HAARP reflector make the most sense to me. The 'changing atmosphere' explanation also doesn't explain all of the witnessed weird phenomenon, as noted in that article.

The way I look at it is this: what's more likely? A) that a secret cabal has managed to fit hundreds of thousands of planes around the globe with chemical dispersants, which need to be refilled daily, which managed to be implemented overnight, needing to employ hundreds of thousands of individuals willing to work in secret, or B) that a rumour has been spread which preys on anti-government sentiments, belief in a population control agenda, belief in an anti-organics agenda or misinformed HAARP hysteria (take your pick)?

Here's another good debunking article:
_http://banoosh.com/blog/2013/07/03/contrails-countering-the-fear-porn-of-chemtrails/
Note the video in that post.