Anxiety after meditation?

[Timey]

Hello all.
I'm having a bit of an unusal experience at the moment. I have recently overcome a period of social anxiety and have got my confidence back. But today, after a short meditation session I immediatly got a feeling of underlying anxiety, I still feel this anxiety as I type this :(
I don't practice the EE system of mediation yet and do the simple in through the nose out trough the mouth, legs crossed, system. Normally, I feel very clear minded after medidation. I have only just taken up meditation again.

 

[truth seeker]

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

 

[Timey]

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

Thank you truthseeker, I have looked into the ee meditation and intend to take it up as part of my work on myself, but I feel that I have to get back into the swing of meditating regularly before I take it up.

 

[Alana]

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

I agree. And a few rounds of pipe breathing before the meditation will go a long way to reducing your anxiety. Try it out and let us know.

I also like to mention that before finding the EE program, I had a really hard time with other forms of meditation. One of my problems was that I just could not empty my mind, and my other problem was that I was feeling anxiety. I find that if the meditation is not guided with powerful, Self-building affirmations (as is the case with the POTS), non-guided meditations leave one vulnerable to whatever might creep up unawares from the unconscious: repressed memories and emotions that the person might be emotionally unprepared to deal with.

That's my perspective, of course.

I see now that you replied to Truth Seeker's post. Why do you feel you need to meditate regularly before you start the EE?

 

[Graalsword]

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

Thank you truthseeker, I have looked into the ee meditation and intend to take it up as part of my work on myself, but I feel that I have to get back into the swing of meditating regularly before I take it up.

You can try it just once, without expectation of doing it regularly, just once to see what happens. It's worth it.

 

[Timey]

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

I agree. And a few rounds of pipe breathing before the meditation will go a long way to reducing your anxiety. Try it out and let us know.

I also like to mention that before finding the EE program, I had a really hard time with other forms of meditation. One of my problems was that I just could not empty my mind, and my other problem was that I was feeling anxiety. I find that if the meditation is not guided with powerful, Self-building affirmations (as is the case with the POTS), non-guided meditations leave one vulnerable to whatever might creep up unawares from the unconscious: repressed memories and emotions that the person might be emotionally unprepared to deal with.

That's my perspective, of course.

I see now that you replied to Truth Seeker's post. Why do you feel you need to meditate regularly before you start the EE?

When I was meditating regularly it had very interesting results on my awareness and was very effective at clearing my mind. It seemed to me that to ease myself back in, then begin with EE was the best way to go. However, it had never occured to me that unguided meditation might leave me vulnerable, this actually makes sense and might even explain the feelings of anxiety I experienced, it just seemed so unusual as this has never happened to me before.

I think it may be helpful to you if you tried the ee meditation as it really helps with stress. I suffered with social anxiety and found it to be quite amazing. The link's below if you're interested. :)

http://eiriu-eolas.org/online-version/

Thank you truthseeker, I have looked into the ee meditation and intend to take it up as part of my work on myself, but I feel that I have to get back into the swing of meditating regularly before I take it up.

You can try it just once, without expectation of doing it regularly, just once to see what happens. It's worth it.

I think I will. Especially considering Alana's insight. Thanks guys :)

 

[Pandora]

I had a hard time sitting cross legged for a while when I first started doing EE. They do recommend you sit or lay down if that is more comfortable. I would just lay down and found myself relaxing very easily after that. The heavy breathing can be a bit too much for me at times as well. I would do what was comfortable for me at the time but always with Laura's voice couching me through it. As time passed, and I did EE more I would do the whole exercise through out the payer of the soul and really let the words fill me with what they mean. The tears would be rolling down and the breathing and anxiety would come but I would ride it letting the emotion surface and let go of the emotional up poor and come out feeling lighter. it was painful and very healing. I personally never do EE without having Laura talk me through it there is just something very soothing and motherly about her voice.

 

[ana]

The tears would be rolling down and the breathing and anxiety would come but I would ride it letting the emotion surface and let go of the emotional up poor and come out feeling lighter. it was painful and very healing. I personally never do EE without having Laura talk me through it there is just something very soothing and motherly about her voice.

The usual reason for getting an increase in stress from doing EE is because one's false personality is so strong and essence is weak or absent.

I think it is important also that you pay attention to yourself, work on yourself, try to discern at every moment how you do interact with the world, which part in you is in charge and how.

 

[RedFox]

The tears would be rolling down and the breathing and anxiety would come but I would ride it letting the emotion surface and let go of the emotional up poor and come out feeling lighter. it was painful and very healing. I personally never do EE without having Laura talk me through it there is just something very soothing and motherly about her voice.

The usual reason for getting an increase in stress from doing EE is because one's false personality is so strong and essence is weak or absent.

I think it is important also that you pay attention to yourself, work on yourself, try to discern at every moment how you do interact with the world, which part in you is in charge and how.

Another thing to remember is that if you have a brain chemical imbalance of some sort (depression/severe trauma, or chemical based changes such as being under the influence of alcohol/drugs/medication for depression or anxiety etc), the bioenergetic breathing portion is not recommended.
If you find a position uncomfortable always find one that is comfortable, and if you find the program stressful it may be best to stop.

 

[cubbex]

Oh I didn't knew that. Thanks for the threat.

The tears would be rolling down and the breathing and anxiety would come but I would ride it letting the emotion surface and let go of the emotional up poor and come out feeling lighter. it was painful and very healing. I personally never do EE without having Laura talk me through it there is just something very soothing and motherly about her voice.

The usual reason for getting an increase in stress from doing EE is because one's false personality is so strong and essence is weak or absent.

I think it is important also that you pay attention to yourself, work on yourself, try to discern at every moment how you do interact with the world, which part in you is in charge and how.

That sounds interesting. Could you give me a clue about how to know when that stops happening? of course you stop feeling stress I assume, but what's the reason of it? how it works?

 

[ana]

Oh I didn't knew that. Thanks for the threat.

The tears would be rolling down and the breathing and anxiety would come but I would ride it letting the emotion surface and let go of the emotional up poor and come out feeling lighter. it was painful and very healing. I personally never do EE without having Laura talk me through it there is just something very soothing and motherly about her voice.

The usual reason for getting an increase in stress from doing EE is because one's false personality is so strong and essence is weak or absent.

I think it is important also that you pay attention to yourself, work on yourself, try to discern at every moment how you do interact with the world, which part in you is in charge and how.

That sounds interesting. Could you give me a clue about how to know when that stops happening? of course you stop feeling stress I assume, but what's the reason of it? how it works?

I will try :)

First let me quote this extract from ISOTM to put things into perspective:

It must be understood that man consists of two parts: essence and personality. Essence in man is what is his own. Personality in man is what is 'not his own.' 'Not his own' means what has come from outside, what he has learned, or reflects, all traces of exterior impressions left in the memory and in the sensations, all words and movements that have been learned, all feelings created by imitation—all this is 'not his own,' all this is personality.

What I think happens when we start practicing EE, is that we start taking away power to the personality in favor of the essence, for some "time" we are in a completely relaxed state, a non- anticipatory state, where there is non identification and essence can manifest itself.

Anxiety is the personality struggling to regain control, personality can not remain in that state and so if there isn't enough essence to counteract the weight of personality we only feel the distress of the latter.

On the other hand when there is enough amount of essence we can remain in this state without the effects described above, because that is the natural state of essence.

I hope this clarified my first post a little more.

 

[cubbex]

Thanks Ana. Like if anxiety is a way to identify with something isn't it?

 

[denekin]

Another possibility is a fundamental shift in perception will often be announced by a bout of "anxiety".
I have often experienced what I used to call "anxiety" right before my understanding shifted dynamically.
Anxiety is an interesting phenomenon, and I've found that that word is often used to represent very different experiences.
We don't have enough good words in English to describe psychological states.
I would recommend being very interested in exactly what is experienced when you experience this anxiety.
We try to distance ourselves from any subjective experience that strikes us as unpleasant,
often by talking to ourselves about it, which is a way of not experiencing it.
Just another possibility. Go with the EE and see what it does...
I guess my main point is that Anxiety does not HAVE to be a bad thing.

 

[RedFox]

Another possibility is a fundamental shift in perception will often be announced by a bout of "anxiety".
I have often experienced what I used to call "anxiety" right before my understanding shifted dynamically.
Anxiety is an interesting phenomenon, and I've found that that word is often used to represent very different experiences.
We don't have enough good words in English to describe psychological states.
I would recommend being very interested in exactly what is experienced when you experience this anxiety.
We try to distance ourselves from any subjective experience that strikes us as unpleasant,
often by talking to ourselves about it, which is a way of not experiencing it.
Just another possibility. Go with the EE and see what it does...
I guess my main point is that Anxiety does not HAVE to be a bad thing.

Thanks for the reminder denekin. I use to experience depression before shifts in perception, this graduated to anxiety, and now its more a sort of....nagging feeling. A very low level anxiety.
I use it as a reminder. If I notice it and remember myself I'll try and work out what it is I need to be learning about myself. Using it like this helps stop it building to unbarable levels (as it did in the past).
I should mention that I use to get this long before finding my way here, when I was reading psychology books mostly.

 

[flycat]

I had the same feeling of anxiety after doing pipe breathing. But after doing it more, it started to clear. Like a few days into it. I believe it is a way that our body reminds us of the right way to go, sometimes the first cleansing of ourselves of all the built up anxiety and the rest, it just surfaces. But I would not worry about it if it dissipates in a few sessions of meditation. I am planning to restart EE soon, namely pipe breathing first, and this time I am expecting that anxiety so I will not be taken by surprise.