Applied Kinesiology (Health Kinesiology ... as requested by Deckard ;)

dantem said:
Can the 'Field' book have anything to do with kynesiology?
I really think kinesiology works with that, indeed. Years ago when I was taking my first Health Kinesiology classes and we were beginning to master muslce testing, something struck me: I was there, receiving really accurate answers (through the muscle testing) about an issue from a person (whose muscle I was testing) who didn't know anything about the subject. If I did not know about it, the person who was being tested didn't either, what was answering? Surely, we were tapping into something else.

I have come to consider "The Field" as a possible explanation for that phenomenon. I also discussed many times with my husband why I know the answers don't come from 4D STS (because it has actually happened before to me and to colleagues that some entities try to hijack the muscle test, but it is really rare and happened in specific cases), should anyone wonder about that.

I really think that when you muscle test, you tap into something bigger than the person in front of you, and that the person (his muscle) is just a canal, so to speak. A bit like channelling, but really different. ;) (hope this makes sense..)

data said:
Try testing after you've made the sign of the cross, as it is done in church. It will test weak. That's because the "flow of energy" in the front main meridian is upward, and yet the movement of the hand is downward
That's true. But even if the conception meridian was not flowing upward, it might still test weak, just because the sign of the cross is so loaded. For lots of people, the cross is a stressful concept (because of their education, because of what it evokes in them, whether they are Christians or not, whether they see it as positive or not).

data said:
This allows for a much deeper level of testing not available before to traditional kinesiologists.
Don't forget that some kinesiologists (like HK practitioner, but also others, judging from the feedback on this very thread) use verbal questioning, and what could be more accurate than that? You can ask virtually ANY question, provided it is asked properly and within the context of the test, you will get an answer. I've tested many many times about the causes of an illness, about how much sugar is too much sugar for a person, and gotten accurate, precise answers which gave results.
 
Mrs. Tigersoap said:
Don't forget that some kinesiologists (like HK practitioner, but also others, judging from the feedback on this very thread) use verbal questioning, and what could be more accurate than that? You can ask virtually ANY question, provided it is asked properly and within the context of the test, you will get an answer. I've tested many many times about the causes of an illness, about how much sugar is too much sugar for a person, and gotten accurate, precise answers which gave results.
I agree that verbal questioning may be sufficient and one of the most important methods in Kinesiology practice. It is even possible to ask silent, mental questions and still get consistent response.

www klinghardt org/faqs.asp said:
This allows for a much deeper level of testing not available before to traditional kinesiologists.
This quote refers to the fact that due to the use of simple optical tools, namely plexiglass quaders (about 10x10x3 cm³) and a polarziation filter, one more "communication interface" to the human mind/body/spirit system is created, in addition to the pressure point "interface" of Touch For Health, the verbal questioning interface, the finger position interface and maybe other interfaces I do not know of. Additional and independent "communication interfaces" allow to cross-check the body's answers (still the muscle test) and expand the possibilities of working your way to the problem.

Not knowing that Klinghardt even refers in his textbook to the work of Popp et al., it was never clear to me how these simple optical tools work, but after reading the "Field" thread, I knew that bio-light was the explanation. The good thing is that it really seems to be scientifically proven.

Since I do not practice Kinesiology (usually just lying on the therapeutic bed) and the application possibilities of this bio-light testing system are numerous, I cannot recount all of them. But one method I know well is the testing of substances in small quartz glass tubes; one plexiglass quader is held above the substance, the other quader lying besides the head. It allows for fast testing of many substances. It seems to me that the light of the substance and the light of the body "react" with each other, thereby producing stress or not, detectable by muscle test. The polarization filter I think is used to determine the regulation degree of the body, e.g. if it's "open" or not.
 
Q: How is ART different from other types of muscle testing?
A: ART is different from other forms of muscle testing in that is uses the latest findings of quantum and biophotonic physics to aid in the assessment of the body. This allows for a much deeper level of testing not available before to traditional kinesiologists. Tools such as a polarization filter and signal enhancers are used to get stronger, clearer feedback from the body.
Hi Data, this passage has really amazing similarities with 'The Field' excerpt posted by Laura:

Photons switch on the body's processes like a conductor launching each individual instrument into the collective sound. At different frequencies they perform different functions. Popp found with experimentation that molecules in the cells would respond to certain frequencies and that a range of vibrations from the photons would cause a variety of frequencies in other molecules of the body. Light waves also answered the question of how the body could manage complicated feats with different body parts instantaneously or do two or more things at once. These `biophoton emissions', as he was beginning to call them, could provide a perfect communication system, to transfer information to many cells across the organism. But the single most important question remained: where were they coming from?
I've always been puzzled by kynesiology, and this transfer of informations by mean of light seems really to describe that our body is able to read the environment even if we aren't able to perceive it consciously.
 
I went to a biological dentist for a consult about having my mercury fillings taken out and replaced and part of the initial consult was some Autonomic Response Testing. I held lead, mercury, and wheat samples in my left hand while the dentist did muscle resistance with my right arm and I was pretty amazed that when I held the samples my resistance was noticeably reduced. It was like my strength just wasn't there. I have a consult with a naturopath at the same location that goes over some pre-removal steps and recommendations, meaning a supplement review for what they called Neurological Allergy Elimination Therapeutics. This was explained to me as steps to take two weeks before and leading up to the removal to help stop an allergic reaction due to the mercury removal. I hope to find out more about ART during my naturopath visit.

Searched around on the web to try to find a book about ART, but the only thing I found is the DVD set by Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt http://stores.homestead.com/klinghardt/-strse-80/Fundamental-Teachings-of-Dietrich/Detail.bok and practitioner manuals. Does anyone have a book recommendation about ART?

Mrs. Tigersoap,
Do you have a book recommendation for kinesiology/ART?

Edit Added: Forgot to mention that my experience with ART reminded me of a couple posts on the forum about testing foods by holding them and seeing how the body leans or something like that. Did numerous searches and couldn't find it. Can someone point it out, if you remember what I'm referring to?
 
Bear said:
Edit Added: Forgot to mention that my experience with ART reminded me of a couple posts on the forum about testing foods by holding them and seeing how the body leans or something like that. Did numerous searches and couldn't find it. Can someone point it out, if you remember what I'm referring to?


Here it is:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=14552.msg114326#msg114326

:)
 
Bear said:
Mrs. Tigersoap,
Do you have a book recommendation for kinesiology/ART?

Hi Bear,

In order to understand more, I think the best is to look in different areas.
First, I can recommend Health Kinesiology by Jane Thurnell-Read. It's a particular type of kinesiology (the one I'm using), but it's very thorough and very well made. You might want to look into Applied Kinesiology for a broader perspective (for example Applied Kinesiology: a trainal manual and reference book on basic principles and Practices by Robert Frost). Kinesiology usually does not tell much about meridians themselves (even though the whole system is based on them), so acupuncture or shiatsu books are also a great way of learning more about kinesiology. You can also read about Bioenergetics (for example Bioenergetics: The Revolutionary Therapy That Uses the Language of the Body to Heal the Problems of the Mind by Alexander Lowen) and about Illness symbolism (Louise Hay, Claudia Rainville, Louise Bourbeau to name of few).

You probably already did that, but just in case, searching 'Muscle testing', 'Applied Kinesiology' or 'Touch for Health', George Goodheart', 'Meridians', 'Acupuncture', 'Acupressure' in Google will already give you a lot to read and much to digest.

Hope this helps! :)
 
The Best way to study ART is through the DVDs and course manuals. Link below:

http://stores.homestead.com/klinghardt/-strse-DVDs/Categories.bok

Klinghardt is a fabulous source of useful information
 
Is there any interest in asking the Cassiopaeans about Kinesiology? There are the different schools of it, simple David Hawkins style, Klinghardt's ART, Louisa William's MRT etc.
I haven't ever tried to get a question answered in a C's session, but I would be very interested in their take on the reliability of using the Nervous System as a means to Truth.
Any thoughts on this?
 
denekin said:
I haven't ever tried to get a question answered in a C's session, but I would be very interested in their take on the reliability of using the Nervous System as a means to Truth.

The muscle test does not get answer from the nervous system. It tests the meridian system in order to see if the system is in balance or not in relation with psychological stress, allergies, tolerances, sensitivities, etc. That's at least my understanding of it. What exactly answers is debatable (consciousness? soul?)
I don't know if knowing about these things is what you consider to be the Truth.
With the muscle test, I try to stick to answers that can be verified (directly from the person, through blood tests, etc.), because people will ask you just about anything (past lives, family-related questions, etc.,). But I usually tell them that without feedback in one form or the other, the test means nothing. In this regard, the guidelines for proper, scientific channelling are the same as those for good muscle testing, I would say.

So, simply using muscle testing to determine the Truth would be quite dangerous and misleading in my opinion...

FWIW
 
I was interested in Health Kinesiology subject after reading this thread and bought the book by Jane Thurnell-Read. I liked the concept very much. Simple and precise diagnosis method is just what modern medicine lack. But treating process is too superficial in my opinion. When author writes about fixing wheat allergy and concludes that patient now can go and his favorite pizza isn't it the same way modern medicine work? Treating symptoms instead of causes. If this guy keeps eating garbage won't he get new health related problems? HK is very similar to `hacking` a body then.
I tried to do muscle testing, but couldn't get consistent results probably because my mind is out of sync with my body, though I still intend to try it again.
 
Yes, Jane does not have the whole banana, especially not about food. As we see on this forum, it takes a lot of dedication to get to the bottom of things, get through all the info (and disinfo) and numerous programs get in the way, so.. Much improvement to be made there in her books.

It will sound bizarre but muscle testing and kinesiology are still a mystery to me, despite almost ten years of practice. I guess doubt and research goes with the territory. Honestly, the most I learned about these (muscle testing and kinesiology) was by reading this forum!! There is a whole lot that even good teachers don't know (or at least don't tell during classes when they actually really should because it makes a world of difference). And there is a lot of disinfo about kinesiology as well!

About what you were asking: It is usually stressed in great details how important it is to be 'meridian balanced' before muscle testing otherwise your test might not be as trustworthy. Jane shows the balancing tap (I think) in the book, but for some people that might not be sufficient. Then there is another kind of balancing to be done (you check every group of meridians to see which one tests weak, then test what type of points you must hold (Neurolymphatic, Neurovascular, End points, Sedation or Activation points) and then hold them for as long as necessary.

Difficult balancing could also be because the person is too stressed out (in which case, you can try an ESR, as shown in the book), or was around computers or EMF for too long or the person lacks water or on the contrary, needs to go to the bathroom, etc.). Then there is also the stress generated by the constant doubt of the tester ('am I doing this right?", "is it working?") which gets in the way of reliable testing. So addressing all this first would be good if you haven't already. When you follow a HK training, you usually spend some time correcting all these little stresses first. Just like with many techniques, you need a lot of cleaning of your machine (that's an ongoing process).

I must also add, just in case, that to practice, it is important to test someone and not self-test. Self-tests are not as reliable and especially not in the beginning. So train a lot with family and friends about stuff they can then give you feedback on afterward and little by little, you will gain confidence and be able to test more and more accurately.

Once you are more comfy with testing, the real trouble begins: what to make of the answers.. :)
 
I'm going to cross post a bit here because Applied Kinesiology (however it works!) is the most impressive system/techniques for healing physical ailments that I've ever encountered, by a wide margin. To get the best results, I think it may involve doing some homework and getting some testable hypotheses, but the tools to test the hypotheses are the best I've ever found.

Foxx said:
I will also use this as another opportunity to recommend Applied Kinesiology to anyone who's had stubborn health issues. I gave this guy a problem I had thought about and read about FOR YEARS and had practically relegated to being unsolvable, and in 15 minutes he found a solution (with enough time to do other stuff in the session, and for less than $100 including the supplements!). It may be his own skill set as a practitioner that sets him apart, but I think in general that the tool set that Applied Kinesiologists have to directly query the body and get answers to questions and determine solutions is, in my opinion, among the best available today and exceeds that of any other health practitioner I've seen (acupuncturists, naturopaths, herbalists, Reiki, certainly every western medical doctor) for a very large quantity of issues. It effectively combines practical, physical applications and treatments (supplements, herbs, etc) with energy-level type of analysis that blends the hypothetical (what should work) with the actual (what does work), and individual, results. In my opinion, Applied Kinesiology should replace generalized western medicine as the first line of inquiry for almost any physical health problem.
 

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