Are Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook connected to the Mossad?

My guess? He has to be seen to react to the number of people who voted for Trump. I am curbing my enthusiasm and sad to do it but Zuckerberg cannot possibly call the shots on all this. This smells like a trap. Yes, I know, it sounds great! Just great! What everybody voted for. When I watch the Joe and Niall report Sundays, I keep thinking, 'I come to the channel for the accents (and of COURSE the perspectives!) and stay for the cynicism'. I'm in sync with cynicism to curb my wishful thinking. Wait and see, wait and see.
 
I don't trust Zuck either, it's probably reactionary move to compete with X, and to manage how the public perceive his company and his persona. Basically based on selfish PR reasons, but if they truly make these changes, then it has visible consequences "on the ground". A bit like a psychopath would have to start concealing his/her more pathological behavior at workplace because otherwise too many collegues would figure out his MO.
 
Community notes for Xs isn’t the best thing out there, sometimes it’s accurate and many times it’s a miss. But if we compare that to Meta’s “fact checkers” it’s a good improvement! I just won’t hold my breath on the free speech thing from Meta. I think it’s just a business move to attract subscribers who maybe went away from the platforms for that reason or to regain more trust that was already lost from FB when it comes to political interventions.
To me Zuckerberg doesn’t really care about this, it’s just a decision made to increase engagement on the platform.
 
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To me Zuckerberg doesn’t really care about this, it’s just a decision made to increase engagement on the platform.
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I'm leaving open the idea that he's being honest and that FB was under serious pressure from the Washington establishment and didn't really want to censor as much as they did. Now that that pressure has apparently been removed, he can act more freely. To be honest, that kind of censorship was never going to be a good business model for a SM platform. Then again, if he's an "undergrounder" then who knows!
 
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I'm leaving open the idea that he's being honest and that FB was under serious pressure from the Washington establishment and didn't really want to censor as much as they did.
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Fair. On the other hand, let’s not forget also that Facebook itself before even becoming an entity under the umbrella of Meta, and before having noticeable pressure from Washington whenever that really began, had serious privacy issues from the get-go. I remember even Steve Jobs who wasn’t a saint and most likely a narcissist, confronted Zuckerberg because of this back then around 2008 and 09, when Facebook wanted Apple to use their APIs on the iPhones. And Apple held and still hold a lot of users data themselves. And the weird and cringy way Mark acted when asked about those things directly.
Yes, privacy is a separated problem not related to free speech directly, but I do think that at the end of the day, it has to do with business, privacy alone was ok as Facebook main issue, but when it comes to free speech, it can affect the company to have those 2 problems tagged to their name:

  • Facebook generated $134.9 billion revenue in 2023. Approximately $71 billion came from the Facebook app
  • $61.2 billion of Facebook’s revenue is generated in US & Canada, despite only 8.9% of users being based in that region
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Data: Facebook Revenue and Usage Statistics (2024)

Active users through the years:

Active users (billions) per year:
YearUsers
20243.07 billion
20233.07 billion
20222.96 billion
20212.91 billion
20202.80 billion
20192.50 billion
20182.32 billion
20172.13 billion
20161.86 billion
20151.59 billion
20141.39 billion
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So if continues that way, the active user numbers might not growth significantly and it could hit a line where it maybe stay as it is, or even decrease a bit if other platforms gain more users.

Comparing that to X:

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from 2017 projected to 2028 (Users in billions)
28= 6.05
27= 5.85
26= 5.65
25= 5.42
24= 5.17
23= 4.9
22= 4.59
21= 4.26
20= 3.91
19= 3.51
18= 3.1
17 = 2.73
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Where statistics shown and estimation of growth. Taking as well into consideration the plans of Elon and X to begin using videos like youtube type as feature, competing with YouTube and Google at some point in the future. and monetization to create and make X as payment platform. Elon always loved the Asian method of some apps like Line or Webo where all things are added and controlled into one app. A dream for Meta. (My assumption but could be a valid one)

Coming back to the numbers, yes, those numbers are minimal compared to Meta numbers (FB and IG combined) but it could also show a reason of why these plan changes from Facebook (looking at the active users from 2023 to 2024). Plus now that Trump will be in power, Facebook can be confronted by serious investigations, I suspect the reason of Facebook being more “open” and making these changes was also decided after Zuckerberg visited Mar-a-Lago. So it could be also another type of pressure not coming from Washington but from a different side. Deep state will continue to control these social media and privacy wise would be always a present issue, but as for free speech, I don’t see it genuinely coming from Zuckerberg’s purely intentions.

Saying that, I really wish to be wrong, and take Z’s honesty as real. But it’s a bit difficult to see it.
 
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Let's wait and see what is further happening. It's a good sign imo. And the head of the German SPD already disagrees, and she wants EU laws against disinformation. Of course, she is afraid of getting exposed to the hard truth.

And who knows under which pressure Zuckerberg stood. Though, still, he could have done things differently in the past.

By the way, in Germany one of the fact checking meta company is "Correctiv", and they created already last year a lot of false information tabout the AfD.
 
Rogan plans an interview with Mark Zuckerberg on the following and current topics 🤔

https://twitter.com/x/status/1877777873375031794
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www.theguardian.com

Zuckerberg approved Meta’s use of ‘pirated’ books to train AI models, authors claim

Sarah Silverman and others file court case claiming CEO approved use of dataset despite warnings
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Mark Zuckerberg approved Meta’s use of “pirated” versions of copyright-protected books to train the company’s artificial intelligence models, a group of authors has alleged in a US court filing.

Citing internal Meta communications, the filing claims that the social network company’s chief executive backed the use of the LibGen dataset, a vast online archive of books, despite warnings within the company’s AI executive team that it is a dataset “we know to be pirated”.

The internal message says that using a database containing pirated material could weaken the Facebook and Instagram owner’s negotiations with regulators, according to the filing. “Media coverage suggesting we have used a dataset we know to be pirated, such as LibGen, may undermine our negotiating position with regulators.
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...musk-data-ai-training-artificial-intelligence
The US author Ta-Nehisi Coates, the comedian Sarah Silverman and the other authors suing Meta for copyright infringement made the accusations in a filing made public on Wednesday, in a California federal court.

The authors sued Meta in 2023, arguing that the social media company misused their books to train Llama, the large language model that powers its chatbots.

The Library Genesis, or LibGen, dataset is a “shadow library” that originated in Russia and claims to contain millions of novels, nonfiction books and science magazine articles. Last year a New York federal court ordered LibGen’s anonymous operators to pay a group of publishers $30m (£24m) in damages for copyright infringement.

Use of copyrighted content in training AI models has become a legal battleground in the development of generative AI tools such as the ChatGPT chatbot, with creative professionals and publishers warning that using their work without permission is endangering their livelihoods and business models.

The filing cites a memo, referring to Mark Zuckerberg’s initials, noting that “after escalation to MZ”, Meta’s AI team “has been approved to use LibGen”.

Quoting internal communications, the filing also says Meta engineers discussed accessing and reviewing LibGen data but hesitated on starting that process because “torrenting”, a term for peer-to-peer sharing of files, from “a [Meta-owned] corporate laptop doesn’t feel right”.

A US district judge, Vince Chhabria, last year dismissed claims that text generated by Meta’s AI models infringed the authors’ copyrights and that Meta unlawfully stripped their books’ copyright management information (CMI), which refers to information about the work including the title, name of the author and copyright owner. However, the plaintiffs were given permission to amend their claims.

The writers argued this week that the evidence bolstered their infringement claims and justified reviving their CMI case and adding a new computer fraud allegation.

Chhabria said during a hearing on Thursday that he would allow the writers to file an amended complaint but expressed scepticism about the merits of the fraud and CMI claims.


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