SaturnMane said:
I have read threw quite a bit of the material and must say it is very entertaining. However i do have my concerns. Some of the material seems to have the intent of scaring its reader. Telling people they have been abducted without them knowing about it and the like. In the Ra material i remember reading that if material gathered thru a channel is intented to frighten or is of a doom nature that it is definately of the STS variety.
Personally , the only time i have made progress of a spiritual nature was when i threw all books to the side , realised that i was born with everything i needed to partake this journey ,dug my heels in and started paying attention to everything going on inside of my head. I made a leap of faith and within some time i reaped the proof and the reward that came along with it. Since then i have been trying to find out what the next step is and have looked everywhere in earnest.
I am not absolutely sure the C's are of the negative variety but in my own experience spiritual gravity or the inner spirit pulling you inward is the place where attainment is gained and 99.9% of the C's material is of the oppositte variety and has one looking outward for the answers. For instance the book about the real history of the world, personally i see nothing but a diversion being excecuted on its readers.
I have no agenda other than talking to others with open minds and feel this is the place to find them.
Hi SaturnMane and welcome :)
As you've said just above, perhaps you're missing something. You probably are, as are most of us which is one of the reasons this forum exists. Because it's unlikely that one person can do it by themselves. You said that you read "a little bit of everything". Is it possible that what you
have read, you have taken in selectively? Indeed, there's a section in the new book, Comets and the Horns of Moses, devoted to how unpleasant truths can hurt our brains literally and so much that we will lie to ourselves and selectively choose information that bolsters our comfortable, cozy view of the world, however untrue, because facing reality is just too painful.
In bold above, you mention how the C's material has people focused on the outside and in particular, you mention the book on the real history as being a diversion. That particularly struck me. I would say that the books on the
false history are more likely a diversion, wouldn't you think? And the fact that most people believe in a false version of history I think could objectively be said to be negative.
I think that your questions are answered in the Wave series etc. In fact, quite early on in the Wave series, Laura talks about how troubling it was for her that the C's weren't just talking about "positive" things. I know a number of people who are doing self work, who are spiritual and who think I have a somewhat negative worldview as well as being "too focused on the exterior". Meanwhile, they do their yoga, eat lots of vegetables and meditate and focus on
healing themselves. There are actually only subtle differences between this lifestyle and what we try to do here on the forum; subtle but important! You see, these people think that by focusing on the good and not watching the news etc. as well as "raising their vibration" by eating vegetables and meditating, will automatically make the world a better place. Well, I think I can safely say that we are in agreement here at the forum about working on the self, eating well (not vegetables!) - in fact, self-work is very important! So what's the difference? Well, the people I know, who think I'm negative are shutting themselves off from reality. Because, as above, so below; as within, so without - if the inner is a reflection of the outer and vice versa, wouldn't you say that it's important to get as true a view of the outer world as possible, which will be reflected on the inner levels at the same time? If you only focus on the self, where's the balance?
I don't know if what I'm saying makes sense to you. Like I said, I'm pretty sure your questions are answered in the Wave series and all the other work. Plus, if you check out the forum more, I think you'll find that there is an important element of self-work as well. Check out the Cognitive Sciences section and consider that maybe, you've perceived the C's material as "negative" not because it is objectively so, but rather because it hurts/scares you to think it might be so and that you would rather maintain a "positive/happy" view of the world even if it isn't objectively so and even if you have to select information to "create that reality" :)
I see Shane has answered meanwhile with a quote that reflects what I was saying...
Shane said:
SaturnMane said:
Thank you shane. I dont take anything as gospel , just have questions toward the C's motivation ,intention and wanted to know if i was the only one.
I didn't think you were taking it as gospel, and I think your concern is understandable. I'm sure many have had some of those questions at some point, to include Laura. If I remember correctly the C's themselves have said material had been corrupted up to 30%. This figure was probably dependent on who was involved with using the board during a particular session, which is discussed in The Wave.
Another useful way of approaching this is through the understanding of human pathology (or perhaps better termed inhuman pathology) and the things we know about manipulation.
More often than not we're manipulated by the things that we want to hear and that make us feel good. So in this way a message could come off as seemingly positive when the truth may be that we're being made comfortable in order to accept a lie.
