Autistic Karma
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Totem36 said:
Hi Totem 36,
Having a son with Down's Syndrome (also possibly some autistic traits and he's now 26 years old), I have always had the feeling that karma has played a part in his birth - both for him and for me/his family. But this is my personal belief.
His dad was/is, unfortunately, an alcoholic (we are divorced but remain on fairly good terms). Even when my boy was young, I had to find a way to cope with his disability and the challenges that it brought not only to me, but to his dad and sister. So, after many years of observing my son's behaviors I developed a theory that before birth he was given a choice - to be born with a disability of some sort or to face a life long challenge with alcoholism. It was his choice. That theory of mine continues to this day. On the brighter side of life with my son, there have been enormous benefits to my life over the years with all the experiences I've been through. I've learned patience. I've found joy in the little things in life that most would dismiss or overlook. Life (now) is good.
Now, onto the diet/chemical factor. It is know that individuals with Downs can have (and will have) medical challenges. Leaky gut for one. Although 26 years ago I didn't know a thing about leaky gut or gluten sensitivity. I only wish this forum had been around when he was much younger. I've always been health conscious, but the information that is available on this forum is extremely beneficial. I don't think you'll find anything like it anywhere else.
A question I have for you Totem 36, is there a particular reason you ask about autism and downs syndrome??
TOTEM36
Jedi
Echo Blue said:
Hi Echo Blue,
Thanks for your story about yourself and your son. Parents like yourselves have some really interesting challenges.
The reason i asked the question is because i heard an obscure reference on the radio a long time ago that individuals with Autism/Down syndrome have a whole other reality going on where they are able to energetically alter the environment around them in a very big way. I became interested in this question long before i heard this, after my experiences with a particular autistic individual which i will try to describe, if i may.
I have worked with these individuals for over 12 years.
3 years after i started this work I met a very interesting autistic individual who was very different to all the others i had worked with previously. I had the very strong experience where things in the environment generally and in the field of my personal space felt like they were being energetically changed - like being tweaked? When ever this became really strong I would turn to see where this individual was and he would have a big smile on his face.
I read up alot on The 5th d ideas growth oppurtunties for parent/child (Michael Newton/Modi) and it is very interesting (as you discussed) how those dynamics work. I also researched ideas about the Analogical mind and about one year ago i constructed a big chart on the ideas of the organical portal from the cass thread including the psychopathic (cold-section) and Narcissistic traits and Individualised soul variances. But this individual appears to be very very individualised in that body.
When the Cass tracscript (Session 12 June 2008)
was discussed about the individual who affected people physically with body resonance, even though probably not relatable (because it was a self-serving function) it just showed that people can affect their environment in stronger ways than others - and this ability could be very high - as could possibly be true with autistic/down syndrome individuals possibly affecting the environment at large ??
Wouldnt it be interesting if these souls had a specific higher purpose and were utilising an autistic/down syndrome vehicle to utilise that focus to accomodate their abilities to alter our environment at a 4th dimensional level.
or to put it differently, - to have an analogical focus for the purpose of energetically altering the trans-physical levels of our reality.
I was interested if there was something behind this???
davey72
The Living Force
That is pretty interesting for sure. I'm not sure why, but i have had an interest in these types of subjects as well.
Just a thought (however silly it may be). I wasnt gonna say it, but perhaps some of these individuals are the 4d nordics? in 3d, or some sort of advanced walk in, or perhaps just watcher/protectors?
Just a thought (however silly it may be). I wasnt gonna say it, but perhaps some of these individuals are the 4d nordics? in 3d, or some sort of advanced walk in, or perhaps just watcher/protectors?
Gonzo
The Living Force
I wondered if some individuals are here to balance certain negative energies.
We can conjecture endlessly, but I wonder if such conjecture leads to wishful thinking or anticipation. That is, unless we can actually create hypotheses that can somehow be tested.
Also, even though I often think about karmic balance, I have to admit we really don't know if the concept of karma exists.
Gonzo
Gonzo
We can conjecture endlessly, but I wonder if such conjecture leads to wishful thinking or anticipation. That is, unless we can actually create hypotheses that can somehow be tested.
Also, even though I often think about karmic balance, I have to admit we really don't know if the concept of karma exists.
Gonzo
Gonzo
anart
A Disturbance in the Force
davey72 said:
I don't think 'faith taking over' is necessarily a wise way to go. It's important to realize that from our perspective there are things we cannot know. What seems to be the point of being here, incarnated, is to learn 'simple and karmic understandings'(as explained by the C's) - to learn all there is to learn about being a 3D STS human entity, so one can then move onto other lessons. It's very easy to get caught by, and lost in, imaginings about 'what is or what might be' - all the while missing the down to earth, objective, lessons directly before you.
TOTEM36
Jedi
Thanks for responding Gonzo, Davey 72, Dawn, Richard S and Anart.
I agree that subjects such as this one should not be a central focus away from somebody's main work on their self. Sorry, but the subject has just been on my mind for a very long time, and I cant discuss it with co-workers because they just wouldnt get it. I thought, that by networking on this subject someone here, by chance, could possibly know something i didnt ???? who knows ???
Davey 72 - 4D Nordics - very advanced (supposedly mostly STS??).....but then I found this the next morning after reading and researching your comment further:
from session 03-04-95
A: Find a “Nordic.” They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn’t hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble.
A: Not STO!
Q: (T) The STS can’t stay, only the STO.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, we need to find an STO Nordic; do we know one?
......
A: They are the only ones who can help you defend yourselves against 4th level attack!!!!
(wooops - must not think about such distractions and conjecture. hee heee! )
I really appreciate everybody's work on this forum.
Thankyou.
I agree that subjects such as this one should not be a central focus away from somebody's main work on their self. Sorry, but the subject has just been on my mind for a very long time, and I cant discuss it with co-workers because they just wouldnt get it. I thought, that by networking on this subject someone here, by chance, could possibly know something i didnt ???? who knows ???
davey72 said:
Davey 72 - 4D Nordics - very advanced (supposedly mostly STS??).....but then I found this the next morning after reading and researching your comment further:
from session 03-04-95
A: Find a “Nordic.” They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn’t hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble.
A: Not STO!
Q: (T) The STS can’t stay, only the STO.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, we need to find an STO Nordic; do we know one?
......
A: They are the only ones who can help you defend yourselves against 4th level attack!!!!
(wooops - must not think about such distractions and conjecture. hee heee! )
I really appreciate everybody's work on this forum.
Thankyou.
davey72
The Living Force
Davey 72 - 4D Nordics - very advanced (supposedly mostly STS??).....but then I found this the next morning after reading and researching your comment further:
from session 03-04-95
A: Find a “Nordic.” They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn’t hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble.
A: Not STO!
Q: (T) The STS can’t stay, only the STO.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, we need to find an STO Nordic; do we know one?
......
A: They are the only ones who can help you defend yourselves against 4th level attack!!!!
(wooops - must not think about such distractions and conjecture. hee heee! )
I really appreciate everybody's work on this forum.
Thankyou.
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Edit: Not sure what happened here, but this is exactly the session i was thinking about when i made that comment. :)
from session 03-04-95
A: Find a “Nordic.” They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn’t hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble.
A: Not STO!
Q: (T) The STS can’t stay, only the STO.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, we need to find an STO Nordic; do we know one?
......
A: They are the only ones who can help you defend yourselves against 4th level attack!!!!
(wooops - must not think about such distractions and conjecture. hee heee! )
I really appreciate everybody's work on this forum.
Thankyou.
[/quote]
Edit: Not sure what happened here, but this is exactly the session i was thinking about when i made that comment. :)
