Autistic Karma

Davey 72 - 4D Nordics - very advanced (supposedly mostly STS??).....but then I found this the next morning after reading and researching your comment further:


from session 03-04-95
A: Find a “Nordic.” They are on Earth posing as humans.
Q: (T) I thought that 4th density couldn’t hold the frequency that long and that is why the Lizards have so much trouble.
A: Not STO!
Q: (T) The STS can’t stay, only the STO.
A: Yes.
Q: (T) So, we need to find an STO Nordic; do we know one?
......
A: They are the only ones who can help you defend yourselves against 4th level attack!!!!


(wooops - must not think about such distractions and conjecture. hee heee! )



I really appreciate everybody's work on this forum.

Thankyou.



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oops, sorry. I was gonna say that this is what i was thinking of when i wondered aloud.
 
I have two sons that are autistic and one with LD/ADHD. They are now grown.

Personally I believe our species is being poisioned. My husband was conceived and raised for ten years inbetween a coal yard and a train yard in Maywood, Illinois.

His oldest sister had two children, the oldest son was severly autistic and skitsofrantic and committed suicide at 19. Her daughter turned out fine, very happy and "normal" but has decided not to have children.

His younger sister had two miscarrages and adopted.

Then my husband's family moved to a very nice suburb and the last three siblings had no "abnormal" children.

There was a article I read on the net, google "The Secret Covenant" or "The Reptilian Pact"

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

When I first read this years back I thought it was stupid, but now I'm not so sure.

Edit=Put in quotes the "Secret Covenant"
 
Hello,

Aside from the diet factors/chemicals

is there a karmic connection for some or most individuals with Autism and Down Syndrome???

Thankyou

I think karma has a roll on everything in an individuals life no matter what the circumstance is I think the point of it all is to learn from it.
Even where we are now as far as being human is karma on some level every part of our being may have chosen this lesson because of
karma.

And to answer your question I think it is possible that Autism or down syndrome is a result of some karma on a soul level.
 
The Water Bearer said:
I have two sons that are autistic and one with LD/ADHD. They are now grown.

Personally I believe our species is being poisioned. My husband was conceived and raised for ten years inbetween a coal yard and a train yard in Maywood, Illinois.

His oldest sister had two children, the oldest son was severly autistic and skitsofrantic and committed suicide at 19. Her daughter turned out fine, very happy and "normal" but has decided not to have children.

His younger sister had two miscarrages and adopted.

Then my husband's family moved to a very nice suburb and the last three siblings had no "abnormal" children.

There was a article I read on the net, google "The Secret Covenant" or "The Reptilian Pact"

An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say. If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

When I first read this years back I thought it was stupid, but now I'm not so sure.

Edit=Put in quotes the "Secret Covenant"
I also beleive that these individuals are poisoned , and have a lower tolerance to it, but i wonder what they might be like in 4d?
 
davey72 - Never thought of that :huh:

I will say all three of my sons are kind, gentle and what I consider good human beings. If you were drowning - any one of my three would be the first to dive and rescue you...........they would not stand around and just watch.

I never drank excessively, only did pot twice in college (and am against it now) and have pretty much eaten whole wheat, fruits, veggies and stayed away from processed foods almost my whole life.

When I was pregnant (and I knew right away from morning sickness) I didn't even have coffee. I really clamped down on both what I ate and when my three sons were born, what they ate.

They never knew about white bread until the oldest came home from school in first grade and said all the kids had white bread sandwiches. Very little candy, cakes, cookies (substitute fruit for snacks).

And as far as raising them, no spanking, except once when Mike ran out into the street.........I would say, "I love you, but I don't like what you did".

Now my sister in law, let her kids eat junk food (like hot dogs and kool aid) and her kids went to Duke, Sorbonne (Paris) and Florida...........her husband was my husband's sibling born in a different area free of pollution.

Me, my mother would have been 100 December 10Th of this year and when she was 10 (1920) she had tonsillitis and how they treated that back then was put you up in front of a x-ray machine (rems not regulated like now) and zapped you. At the time of this "treatment" I was one of her eggs - radiation messes with DNA big time.

Between that and the mercury on the walls in houses pre 1970 - it is my contention that, that is why we have three children, and all are considered "abnormal".

Never thought about 4d..................very interesting.

For those saying "karma" I must have been Hitler in my last lifetime than, orphaned at 9, physically, mentally and sexually abused and now having three "defective" children...............my one saving grace was marrying a wonderfully gentle, kind intelligent man that has been an excellent father and my eternal soulmate.

Very astute comment - food for thought.

Thank you.
 
celtic said:
And to answer your question I think it is possible that Autism or down syndrome is a result of some karma on a soul level.

Yes,

A hard one, doesn’t appear to many leads to follow on this subject.

When discussing ideas about choosing a disbled body, for specific experiences, higher skills?? - so far, hypnotherapists’ accounts are all that I know of that is available on the subject and that information is scarce and generally unspecific.

Anyway, worth a try.

Regarding karma, some people look at it from the punishment point of view or the consensus reality pov.
But, I like the definition from the guy in Matrix 2 - "A way of saying "what I am here to do. ..."
 
The Water Bearer said:
I will say all three of my sons are kind, gentle and what I consider good human beings. If you were drowning - any one of my three would be the first to dive and rescue you...........they would not stand around and just watch.

Hello Water Bearer,

I must say that you are so fortunate to have, and have raised three sons, who are kind and gentle. That says lots, in my opinion.



For those saying "karma" I must have been Hitler in my last lifetime than, orphaned at 9, physically, mentally and sexually abused and now having three "defective" children...............my one saving grace was marrying a wonderfully gentle, kind intelligent man that has been an excellent father and my eternal soulmate.


Regarding your comment on karma, here's something else to think about. What if your sons made a pre-soul agreement that they would come back to support each other in their next lifetime - if the chance arose. Now that's just something that crossed my mind when I was reading your post. Plus, I don't think you should be so hard on yourself thinking you were a terrible person in another lifetime. Life is lessons. We've all had our experiences with the positive and negative life experiences. This lifetime, maybe, you are learning to balance your emotions. And the reason that I say that is because I have two children. My oldest daughter took her SAT's (college admission tests) at the age of 12 years. She was a very smart cookie!! Now my son, who was born with Down's Syndrome, has had a lifetime of learning difficulties. My early mothering years were filled with difficulties as to how to balance my life with these two children, how to get them to connect with each other and how to learn to love the differences.

You are lucky to have married a man with all the traits you describe. And it sounds like you are proud of your sons. Enjoy your family. Don't dwell on the differences between your family and your relatives situations. We all have our paths to follow in life.

Edit: fixed quote
 
Very interesting thread, as I have often speculated about these individuals as well. I was a teacher for several years, so I worked with some of these children (upper elementary level).

Also funny that the analogical mind is mentioned, as this has interested me as well. I have much to learn and research, though! Something I had read always stuck in my mind when I worked with them....there is a site by someone named Toby Alexander (upfront note that he is likely a hack or has his own agenda, although mentioned on this forum in some past thread, as in one of his own "sessions" of sorts, he is "told" to read the Cass transcripts) Anyway, his site was about DNA activations, that I'd discovered years ago, before I began reading the Cass site material. However, the way he presented theories about analogical thoughts, and autistic children, was food for thought. I now forget all of the details, but he presented these children as having a "split soul" and indeed used the word Nephilim as well. And I think there was some implication of a higher purpose healing of planet. But again, I am saying this based on someone's writings I am skeptical of, so I apologize for the tangent.

Anyway, there was one 4th grade student/boy I had a special bond with and for a couple years worked with one on one. I always felt he had an ability to energetically affect the environment, as some of you speculate. Occasionally he would look at me when I was close by and suddenly touch my arm or shoulder, and say, "There", as if he had changed something for me. I was fascinated by this, especially as I had health issues.
 
The Water Bearer said:
For those saying "karma" I must have been Hitler in my last lifetime than, orphaned at 9, physically, mentally and sexually abused and now having three "defective" children...............my one saving grace was marrying a wonderfully gentle, kind intelligent man that has been an excellent father and my eternal soulmate.

Very astute comment - food for thought.

Thank you.
It is funny you said that about Hitler.
I have been saying this to people since i was very young. :rolleyes:
 
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