Axis-Star

[Persej]

Yes, Lord Dattatreya is considered to be an incarnation of the Hindu Trinity – Mahesh (Shiva), Vishnu and Brahma, which represent the inferior world, the superior world, and the supreme world. These 3 gods dwell within the Universal/zodiacal shell, which supposedly needs to be pierced by the Hero in order to contemplate the divine. The trinity is united by the Goddess.

I'm just guessing here, but in that story the Goddess could represent gravity.

The Goddess, by the way, does not only relate to Earth, it represents the physical realm, including other cosmic bodies.

But if that is true then she cannot be the axis of our world, since we have physical realm (Goddess), spiritual realm (God) and something in between. That thing that stands in between those two worlds can be called axis of the Universe, not the Goddess. Goddess is at the bottom of the Universe.

The Red sphere merging with the Yellow make Orange, and these 3 interconnected colors represent the lower world within the shell.

The Blue sphere merging with the Violet makes Indigo; all 3 of them together represent the higher center.

The third trinity in the middle is comprised of Yellow and Blue merging into Green - the middle (4 out of 7). This sphere partakes of the nature of 2 other spheres, lower and higher. That is the essence of the Universal Goddess: she absorbs the other energies (gods), that dwell within the shell, into her nature.

But you just said that Goddess represents the physical realm, i.e. the lower world within the shell?

Goddess = lower world, physical realm, nature.
God = higher world, spiritual realm, information world.
Thing in the middle = axis of the world, semi physical and semi spiritual realm.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Interesting that the dog star Sirius, a triple star. Cerber and the dog that guards the underworld has three heads and a lizard's tail!

Kisito, thank you for bringing this up!

After I read your post, I put words "Sirius" "triple" "star" is google. Here is the first link that came up:
I don't know what to make of it yet, need more time to process, but it sure is a very exciting reading!

Can the star, which is supposedly responsible for the inundation of the Nile, be considered the star that is central to the idea of the Goddess/axis? The process of inundation is central to life. The Goddess is a medium, which helps the divine seed merge into the material world.
Is this star (?Sirius?) central to the idea of the universal Goddess? Does this star represent the nature of the Goddess, does it share similar qualities? Or this mysterious star is peripheral to the idea of the Goddess?

Here is another thought:
Why is mythical Scylla depicted as a monstrous sea goddess who haunted the rocks of certain narrow strait opposite the whirlpool daemon Kharybdis. Homer describes Skylla as a creature with twelve dangling feet, six long necks and grisly heads lined with a triple row of sharp teeth. Her voice was likened to the yelping of dogs. This description of Skylla is probably derived from the imagery of words associated with her name: namely, "hermit-crab"

Dogs, again.

 

[Kisito]

Interesting that the dog star Sirius, a triple star. Cerber and the dog that guards the underworld has three heads and a lizard's tail!

Nope, it's a binary star: Sirius A and Sirius B. And stars don't have tails, but comets do. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

Yes officially, but I refer to the beliefs of the Dogon in Africa who have always claimed that there were 3 Sirius A, B, C. Sirius B was only discovered by the West between 1836 and 1915, after Dogon claimed that B exists. Also as we talk about legends and mythology, I allowed myself to refer to the triple star Sirius Dogon.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Persei, you misunderstood, sorry, My writing is not clear enough.

I'm just guessing here, but in that story the Goddess could represent gravity.

This is a good guess.

The Goddess, by the way, does not only relate to Earth, it represents the physical realm, including other cosmic bodies.

But if that is true then she cannot be the axis of our world, since we have physical realm (Goddess), spiritual realm (God) and something in between. That thing that stands in between those two worlds can be called axis of the Universe, not the Goddess. Goddess is at the bottom of the Universe.

I was not clear on that, my apologies. She is the axis, the portal that connects the physical world with the Divine world. At the same time she is the center of the physical labyrinth, through which a hero can be liberated from the limitations of the physical sphere into the incorporeal world. In the physical realm she is the main Deity, but in the world of the Divine she is the bottom energy. Some people think mother goddess is just the Earth. She is the yellow color of the lower sphere of the egg, and the blue color of the higher sphere of the egg.

I am going to find out how to insert my drawing into my post, so I can show it. This way you will understand.

The Red sphere merging with the Yellow make Orange, and these 3 interconnected colors represent the lower world within the shell.

The Blue sphere merging with the Violet makes Indigo; all 3 of them together represent the higher center.

The third trinity in the middle is comprised of Yellow and Blue merging into Green - the middle (4 out of 7). This sphere partakes of the nature of 2 other spheres, lower and higher. That is the essence of the Universal Goddess: she absorbs the other energies (gods), that dwell within the shell, into her nature.

But you just said that Goddess represents the physical realm, i.e. the lower world within the shell?

No, she is not the lower world, she is where the lower and the higher world meet. This point of merging opens up a portal into the Divine world.

God = higher world, spiritual realm, information world.
the universal Goddess in the middle = axis of the world, semi physical and semi spiritual realm.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Interesting that the dog star Sirius, a triple star. Cerber and the dog that guards the underworld has three heads and a lizard's tail!

Nope, it's a binary star: Sirius A and Sirius B. And stars don't have tails, but comets do. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

Yes officially, but I refer to the beliefs of the Dogon in Africa who have always claimed that there were 3 Sirius A, B, C. Sirius B was only discovered by the West between 1836 and 1915, after Dogon claimed that B exists. Also as we talk about legends and mythology, I allowed myself to refer to the triple star Sirius Dogon.

http://www.alcyone.de/SIT/mainstars/SIT000499.htm#Cat1

C, companion to B at 1.4" suspected but not confirmed.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

And stars don't have tails, but comets do. :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius

Yes, comets do have tails. And your assumption is very interesting. But i am confused: can a comet somehow be related with annual inundation of the Nile?

Or it does not have to be related?

 

[Persej]

Well, if you want to talk about triple stars then I think we must also mention Orion, which has three stars in his belt that you can see with the naked eye, unlike the supposed Sirius' third star.

In China, Orion was one of the 28 lunar mansions Sieu (Xiu) （宿）. It is known as Shen （參）, literally meaning "three", for the stars of Orion's Belt.

The Rig Veda refers to the Orion Constellation as Mriga (The Deer). It is said that two bright stars in the front and two bright stars in the rear are The hunting dogs, the one comparatively less bright star in the middle and ahead of two front dogs is The hunter and three aligned bright stars are in the middle of all four hunting dogs is The Deer (The Mriga) and three little aligned but less brighter stars is The Baby Deer.

The Malay called Orion' Belt Bintang Tiga Beradik (the "Three Brother Star").

The Seri people of northwestern Mexico call the three stars in the belt of Orion Hapj (a name denoting a hunter) which consists of three stars: Hap (mule deer), Haamoja (pronghorn), and Mojet (bighorn sheep).

The same three stars are known in Spain and most of Latin America as "Las tres Marías" (Spanish for "The Three Marys"). In Puerto Rico, the three stars are known as the "Los Tres Reyes Magos" (Spanish for The three Wise Men).

In artistic renderings, the surrounding constellations are sometimes related to Orion: he is depicted standing next to the river Eridanus with his two hunting dogs Canis Major and Canis Minor, fighting Taurus.

Orion's Belt is called Drie Konings (Three Kings) or the Drie Susters (Three Sisters) by Afrikaans speakers in South Africa[24] and are referred to as les Trois Rois (the Three Kings) in Daudet's Lettres de Mon Moulin (1866). The appellation Driekoningen (the Three Kings) is also often found in 17th- and 18th-century Dutch star charts and seaman's guides.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orion_%28constellation%29

So if you want to find a 'star' that has a dogs as companions you should also take into consideration the Orion. In case that the myth that you are researching is not talking about a comet.

 

[Persej]

Here is another thought:
Why is mythical Scylla depicted as a monstrous sea goddess who haunted the rocks of certain narrow strait opposite the whirlpool daemon Kharybdis. Homer describes Skylla as a creature with twelve dangling feet, six long necks and grisly heads lined with a triple row of sharp teeth. Her voice was likened to the yelping of dogs. This description of Skylla is probably derived from the imagery of words associated with her name: namely, "hermit-crab"

Dogs, again.

Yes, dogs again. And in this case you actually found what I previously said, that this goddess was probably producing sound of dogs! Now that is interesting. Stars on the sky do not produce sounds.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Persej, thank you for your valuable input.
The quotes about a comet are very convincing. And cyclical cleansing by fire makes sense.
But how is this comet related to the idea of the Goddess?

Orion, and its dogs is another curious lead.

Maybe we are talking about different cosmic bodies.

Need more time to think.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Here is another thought:
Why is mythical Scylla depicted as a monstrous sea goddess who haunted the rocks of certain narrow strait opposite the whirlpool daemon Kharybdis. Homer describes Skylla as a creature with twelve dangling feet, six long necks and grisly heads lined with a triple row of sharp teeth. Her voice was likened to the yelping of dogs. This description of Skylla is probably derived from the imagery of words associated with her name: namely, "hermit-crab"

Dogs, again.

Yes, dogs again. And in this case you actually found what I previously said, that this goddess was probably producing sound of dogs! Now that is interesting. Stars on the sky do not produce sounds.

Agree! I just cant connect the idea of a comet to smaller cycles of the Goddess. The Cycle of such a comet could take many thousand of years, right?

Any thoughts?

 

[Persej]

Yes, comets do have tails. And your assumption is very interesting. But i am confused: can a comet somehow be related with annual inundation of the Nile?

Or it does not have to be related?

Are we talking about Egyptian or Greek myths? Greek myths do not talk about goddess that brings inundation. They talk about goddess that brings destruction.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

Yes, comets do have tails. And your assumption is very interesting. But i am confused: can a comet somehow be related with annual inundation of the Nile?

Or it does not have to be related?

Are we talking about Egyptian or Greek myths? Greek myths do not talk about goddess that brings inundation. They talk about goddess that brings destruction.

Greek myths are different from the Egyptian.

 

[Persej]

The quotes about a comet are very convincing. And cyclical cleansing by fire makes sense.
But how is this comet related to the idea of the Goddess?

Well, if it dwells on a heaven, and it can bring destruction on humanity whenever it wants, then people would probably call her goddess. If that is your question?

I just cant connect the idea of a comet to smaller cycles of the Goddess. The Cycle of such a comet could take many thousand of years, right?

Any thoughts?

Oh no. Comets can have much smaller cycles, if they are captured by our solar system. One of the most famous ones is Halley's Comet which cycles every 75 years.

And Venus, for which Velikovsky says that she was originally a comet, cycles every 225 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_in_Collision

 

[Εἰρήνη]

I mean the cycle of the comet that brings destruction to the humankind, wipes off civilizations, must be many thousands of years. Laura wrote about such cycles. And flood, such as Noah's is also cyclical, perhaps also caused by a comet. I need to find this info.

 

[Εἰρήνη]

here and here:
http://cassiopaea.org/2011/11/07/meteorites-asteroids-and-comets-damages-disasters-injuries-deaths-and-very-close-calls/
http://cassiopaea.org/2012/03/10/witches-comets-and-planetary-cataclysms/

The annual river inundations and cometary destruction are probably might not be related, although both can be aligned with the Goddess. Maybe the inundation cycle has to do with one of the faces of the Goddess that bring life, and the destruction has to do with her other face and a different cosmic body, such as a comet.
But we can relate dogs to the moon and water cycles, and we can relate dogs to comets, because of their sound, and the destructive power. How so we relate "dog-star" to Isis?
The soul of Isis is called Dog by the Greeks.